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Fountain View Ice Cream closing in early April for Starbucks conversion
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Animaniac93-98
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I thought 50s too, it's the shape of the curves and the wood.
Wow, based on the picture (and pictures can be incomplete) that is a huge boring waste. 7-11 meets Disney. And we all loose. This is the BEST they could come up with. At least Main Street has some personality and kinda fits the theme. SO what's this theme, please ignore me.
The Empress Lilly
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Holy cow. What a dull, uninspired design. This new Starbucks wins the price for both ugliest Starbucks and ugliest part of EPCOT.
Who on earth designs this? Yes, you amateurs, the design of EPCOT is 'sleek and minimalist' indeed, you got that much correct alright. But it's sleek and minimalist with a punch. Like SSE, or the classic Centorium, not 'standard 2013 airport waiting hall minimalist - but more dull and minimal'.
Every modern coffee shop / trendy restaurant in any provincial town looks more trendy and inspired. And that is disregarding that in EPCOT you are supossed to go one better over that.
Who on earth designs this? Yes, you amateurs, the design of EPCOT is 'sleek and minimalist' indeed, you got that much correct alright. But it's sleek and minimalist with a punch. Like SSE, or the classic Centorium, not 'standard 2013 airport waiting hall minimalist - but more dull and minimal'.
Every modern coffee shop / trendy restaurant in any provincial town looks more trendy and inspired. And that is disregarding that in EPCOT you are supossed to go one better over that.
The Empress Lilly
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Well I suppose 'crap tens coffee shop design' beats 'crap naughties ice cream shop design', which in turn beat 'crap nineties pizza joint design'.
Ever since the Sunrise Terrace this spot has looked horrible. CommuniCore never did recover from the 94 onslaught. Such a shame. FW really misses a heart, a center. Not everything in CC was all that exciting, but at least it tried. And it provided two nice, open, light and airy spaces that brought FW together more than CC ever got credit for.
Donald96
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They did say "The CMs told us they will have decorators come in next week to spruce up the place some more so how it looks now is just a preview!"; so hopefully they'll put up some pictures, or artwork up to take away the "empty" feeling. Definatley an improvement though.
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alissafalco
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Really? That's the best that they could do or come up with? It almost gave me the creeps.
Mike730
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Sometimes I really don't understand how you people can complain so much. It's a coffee house. Give it a rest.
The building is in a place that requires no specific theme besides "sleek and clean".
God forbid it was more heavily designed like a Starbucks and "Oh No! Its like the one in town! My Goodness they're ruining my park!" *tears*
God forbid it looked futuristic and modern and "My Goodness this isn't Tomorrowland! They're ruining my park!" *tears*
Looks like cool lights and fresh paint to me. Just as every ride that's built can't be an E-ticket, nor can every eatery be a California Grill.
The building is in a place that requires no specific theme besides "sleek and clean".
God forbid it was more heavily designed like a Starbucks and "Oh No! Its like the one in town! My Goodness they're ruining my park!" *tears*
God forbid it looked futuristic and modern and "My Goodness this isn't Tomorrowland! They're ruining my park!" *tears*
Looks like cool lights and fresh paint to me. Just as every ride that's built can't be an E-ticket, nor can every eatery be a California Grill.
The Empress Lilly
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Sorry, as is customary in a 'theme' park, restaurants should be themed. This has always been the case in EPCOT too, lower or upper case.
We're not complaining, we're rubbishing a dull uninspired design that doesn't further the theme of EPCOT, and so dilutes its thematic unity and undermines its aesthetic harmony.
Here's what a CommuniCore restaurant ought to look like, from the way back machine when Disney build quality parks for demanding customers:
And here is one of the four buckses that you encounter on Orlando airport alone. Identical in style and content to what they offer you in today's Epcot.
TalkingHead
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It's got all the style of a hospital cafeteria.
The Empress Lilly
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CommuniCore / Innoventions isn't the 'non-themed' EPCOT area, not a place where you meet Toy Story characters because the brochure told you pics of kids with toons is what Disney is about. CC isn't an ugly traffic square, from where you get to the 'fun, themed' areas of EPCOT.
No, CC is the beating heart of the center of EPCOT Center, which itself is the center of the entire Florida Project.
Here's the erstwhile view from the current Starbucks (top pic mirrored):
We now have a concrete square, with silly tarps, a fountain ruined by a temporary stage that's not been used for twenty years, and a pin shop and a meet and greet and Orlando's 260th Starbucks which doesn't even have the courtesy to at least look good.
And they ask why we complain.
No, CC is the beating heart of the center of EPCOT Center, which itself is the center of the entire Florida Project.
Here's the erstwhile view from the current Starbucks (top pic mirrored):
We now have a concrete square, with silly tarps, a fountain ruined by a temporary stage that's not been used for twenty years, and a pin shop and a meet and greet and Orlando's 260th Starbucks which doesn't even have the courtesy to at least look good.
And they ask why we complain.
Tom Morrow
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I had no problem with the Main Street location, but I don't like this. There doesn't seem to be much of an attempt to match the aesthetics of Future World (or what's left of them).
edit: it does look a little better in the other pictures. Still, its just a Starbucks. No theming.
edit: it does look a little better in the other pictures. Still, its just a Starbucks. No theming.
The Empress Lilly
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Maybe once all the props and decoration are in place this Starbucks will at least not look worse than the other 260 Orlando Starbuckses.
But I fear that this disaster is a serious attempt to fit Starbucks into EPCOT by producing a sleek, minimalist interpretation of the standard Starbucks style.
The end result is that you pay $91 to visit a Starbucks that is actually worse then any of the 32 buxxes you encountered on your drive from MCO to EPCOT. Better to pocket those 91 dollars and hang out on MCO for the duration of your stay. Same Sbux, same Disney merchandise, and same booze. Voila, the entire EPCOT experience, but cheaper and with shorter lines and without ever leaving the arrival hall.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
I took this picture for you when I went to WDW a few weeks ago...
And this...
As you can see, they still have not painted the white boards installed for the new sign / light fixture! <grin>
The Empress Lilly
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Awesome! I love you!
That makes me want to go all guerilla fanwar on WDW. For a diversion, one of us collapses on the middle of MS after a collision with a SUV ECV. As the local CM's rush towards him, I lift somebody else on my shoulders, pass the paint, and before security understands what's going on, he's got those planks painted in the right white.
Then we'll dump the white paintbrush on Tom Sawyer Island and promise our Thunder fastpasses to whomever retrieves it.
That makes me want to go all guerilla fanwar on WDW. For a diversion, one of us collapses on the middle of MS after a collision with a SUV ECV. As the local CM's rush towards him, I lift somebody else on my shoulders, pass the paint, and before security understands what's going on, he's got those planks painted in the right white.
Then we'll dump the white paintbrush on Tom Sawyer Island and promise our Thunder fastpasses to whomever retrieves it.
Californian Elitist
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To be quite blunt, this new Starbucks location is ugly.
Goofyernmost
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Unless my eyes are deceiving me...isn't that a picture above of the Odyssey Restaurant that has been closed now for close to two decades? That was the now wildly popular Epcot design called empty building theme.Sorry, as is customary in a 'theme' park, restaurants should be themed. This has always been the case in EPCOT too, lower or upper case.
We're not complaining, we're rubbishing a dull uninspired design that doesn't further the theme of EPCOT, and so dilutes its thematic unity and undermines its aesthetic harmony.
Here's what a CommuniCore restaurant ought to look like, from the way back machine when Disney build quality parks for demanding customers:
And here is one of the four buckses that you encounter on Orlando airport alone. Identical in style and content to what they offer you in today's Epcot.
Yes, it probably lacks the regular Epcot theme but that would make it an empty building. Places like the restaurants can only be themed externally to blend in with it's surroundings because other then that there is no related thing to theme it too. Like the buses it is strictly a service location to satisfy a basic human need, that of thirst. How would anyone theme a place like that in a place like Futureworld Epcot? What would be the answer? Any suggestions?
Goofyernmost
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Or so we are told and perhaps would like to believe. There is not a single thing about Epcot that is in anyway even slightly connected with the actual "center of the entire Florida Project other then the use of the name for a theme park. The Florida Project was to create and build an actual working city. A city that, as Walt said, was built around the most up to day technology of whatever time that we were currently in. You cannot build a working world of the future. Once built and operating it is then, at that point, the now! Mostly awaiting the future for it to change.
I can understand, although I don't agree with, the thoughts of Starbucks on MSUSA. However, the inclusion of it in Epcot is as natural as breathing oxygen. It is on the edge of the future which describes Epcot completely. Someday in the future there might be a Starbucks II (by some other name) that will be more modern, more up to date and it will replace Starbucks I. Until then it is what it is. A place to get a beverage, nothing more, nothing less.
redpill101
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So if I want to get a starbucks coffee do I have to waste one of my 3 fastpasses in epcot? 