First timer thoughts from Hong Kong Disneyland

marni1971

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Excellent video, as usual, @marni1971! Please share your specific thoughts please on Mystic Manor!
Thank you.

Mystic is the perfect quintessential Disney attraction. Lovely exterior. Detailed, themed queue that in part tells the plot of the forthcoming attraction. Original storyline with IP designed for the attraction. Cute and enjoyable preshow. Perfect ride system. Gorgeous original Danny Elfman music score. Great animatronics and some stunning visual effects including what I think are the most amount of lasers in a single Disney attraction. It doesn’t translate well on video but the first and last rooms have ultra thin curtains of gauze or mesh hanging from the ceiling that drop and rise unseen in the dark; the laser “magic” projected onto them really seems like it’s flowing around thin air in 3 dimensions. Even entering into a gift shop that is so lavishly themed isn’t bad. The attached Explorers Restaurant is the icing on the cake with great food in a highly themed environment that continues the Manor theme and rides story.

In the context of the park and also in the wider theme park world it’s up there in my top 10 along with Rise, Tower, SSE, Paris Pirates, FJ etc. An attraction both as good as and also greater than the sum of its parts. And it works perfectly in the naturally exotic location of HKDL.
 
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Animaniac93-98

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Cute and enjoyable preshow.

I had no idea there was a pre-show until I saw it in person, because nobody had bothered to film it up to that point.

Thankfully you have, and from multiple angles too.

It doesn’t translate well on video but the first and last rooms have ultra thin curtains of gauze or mesh hanging from the ceiling that drop and rise unseen in the dark; the laser “magic” projected onto them really seems like it’s flowing around thin air in 3 dimensions.

I saw some of the mesh on my second ride through, but didn't know it dropped down. I just thought it was there the whole time, but I never noticed. Having it rise and fall like a curtain to make it as invisible as possible is the kind of smart, but simple effect WED was known for.

The attached Explorers Restaurant is the icing on the cake with great food in a highly themed environment that continues the Manor theme and rides story.

It was closed when I went. :(

Props for keeping it "The Explorer's Restaurant" and not something like "King Louie's House of Chicken Nuggets"
 

DisneyDean97

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@marni1971 interested to hear your thoughts on their Adventureland? We visited back in 2019, but felt that land was lacking something, couldn't put my finger on it. A Disney Adventureland without Pirates doesn't feel right, that Flume concept they had a while ago would work perfect for this park, and would balance the park out once the E-Ticket goes on the utopia site.
 

marni1971

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@marni1971 interested to hear your thoughts on their Adventureland? We visited back in 2019, but felt that land was lacking something, couldn't put my finger on it. A Disney Adventureland without Pirates doesn't feel right, that Flume concept they had a while ago would work perfect for this park, and would balance the park out once the E-Ticket goes on the utopia site.
Pretty much everything you said. Though we were taken aback by the view across the river with the JC sailing past. It looked so…. Big. As they say. A bit of a wow moment.
 

networkpro

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DisneySA

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Hong Kong Disneyland's newest attraction, the world of Frozen has just opened since November last year, the crowds are packed making hard to walk around the attractions.




Elsa is definitely one of the hottest princess (or should I say Queen) in all of Disney right now, we spotted different Elsas all across the park, but here is the World of Frozen from our recent trip to Hong Kong!
 

Supersnow84

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Been looking at wait times at Hong Kong last few weeks… Really looks like the park doing quite well now. Plenty of rides over an hour a wait right now, Winnie at 55!
I noticed that as well, WOF is basically always 90-120 minutes and then the rest of the D and E tickets are regularly getting 1 hour

A full financial year of that sort of attendance I can see the park pulling 7-8 million which would be a massive win
 

davis_unoxx

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I noticed that as well, WOF is basically always 90-120 minutes and then the rest of the D and E tickets are regularly getting 1 hour

A full financial year of that sort of attendance I can see the park pulling 7-8 million which would be a massive win
Amazing! Think park will go back to being open everyday this year? I saw on app it’s open everyday through end of the month or March.
 

The Empress Lilly

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I’ve been asked about what we thought of HKDL so thought I shouldn’t clutter the other thread. We just came back from our first visit with 6 days in the park, staying at the HKDL Hotel. I guess I should post a disclaimer that our research paid off and it was relatively quiet aside from weekend, and good weather.

In a word, wow. Show quality is great. The park and resort is spotless. Landscaping is exceptional. But the cast members… from greeters to restaurants, hotels to cafes the cast were some of the warmest, friendliest, most helpful and just genuinely happy we’ve ever met. Cast were also consistently proactive; for example managing queue layouts and adjusting as needed before it became a problem. A joy to watch. Language wasn’t an issue. We may have had more special treatment being obviously foreign tourists, I don’t know, but we were pleasantly shocked with the cast. Amazing wouldn’t be too strong a word. Example, we did the Nightmare Before Dinner show. Dialogue was in Mandarin and Cantonese. So our server came to the table to quietly explain and demonstrate what was being said (mixing the soup in a certain way to change colour) and then the manager came to apologise and explain they didn’t have time to spiel in all languages hence the one to one. Perfect customer service (and the dinner show is highly recommended on all counts) - indeed, we didn’t have a bad meal anywhere. Nor a good one. Every meal from snacks to table serve to buffets were truly excellent.

Thankfully the park itself has grown since opening. Does it need more? Yes. Did we get bored in six days? No. I can’t help thinking the addition of the Avengers E and a (Pirates) flume would elevate it far above Shanghai (which we’ve yet to try). As it is it has to be close - 4 unique rides and variations on a theme elsewhere. Fantasyland would benefit from a second dark ride (Festival of Foods is real estate begging to be converted) and I imagine a very wet day with outside attractions closed would be testing. But as I said we had good weather. Parts of the legacy park were obviously budget challenged and then you have Mystic Point (wow), the castle (beautiful and well proportioned in person) and Grizzly Gulch (basically an entire land with the resident coaster travelling all over, under and around it). Iron Man was a fun variation on Star Tours and we found Ant Man to be preferable to Buzz Lightyear (and thoroughly enjoyable and dare I say clever) - and it is nice both feature Hong Kong. Locals seemed to appreciate the nod. Mystic Manor is simply perfect. Small World is a great version once you get past the bizarre queue design (wants to be Anaheim but ends up like Orlando gone wrong) and I should mention Let’s get Wicked and Mickey and the Wondrous Book; 2 stunning live stage shows with the cast doing anything but going through the motions. If you’ve ever wanted a techno pop version of Happily Ever After nows your chance.

I’m happy to say Premiere Access seemed mostly shunned (again YMMV) so queues kept moving. It was Orlando circa 1990. An absolute joy. Wait times were accurate and more than doable, weekdays 20-30 minutes for the Es at peak time with walk ons at random times. Weekends saw highs of 40 minutes - in Orlando you’d jump at 40 minutes for an E ticket. A great time to return to the hotel and its wonderful pool for a few hours. Food prices were comparable with Paris or Orlando and again quality and portion sizes were fantastic. We plumped for the gold Annual Pass since it made sense for more than 3 days with 10-18% off most food and 10% off merchandise. More great cast help at the hotel front desk checked if we had tickets and insisted they could and would convert the AP voucher into physical cards - complete with photos- there and then to save going to the parks guest relations window. Another note on cast; a cynic would call the restaurants over staffed. But it enabled service better than any we’ve seen before. And did I say same day ADRs? Honestly it was a pleasure to be in the park.

The infrastructure for the castle and area is stunning. State of the art projections, lighting and audio from the hub to Town Square really came into play after Momentus with a carnival atmosphere 30 minute post show. Such a great way to end a day (and a stunning main show too)

Post World of Frozen there should thankfully be more coming to the park (verified with a conversation I had) but as it is was, we were so impressed with the park and resort (and city) as a whole if we didn’t already have plans for next year we’d be back without hesitation. 10/10.
I adored HK DL. For me the intangibles did it, the feelings WDW once gave you. The quality of the CMs. The quality of the audience, who dress up for a Disney day rather than dress down as in the West. And who are a pleasure to be around, quiet when the setting demands it, joyous where it suits. A Disney fanhood that doesn't give out an arrested development vibe. And just overall, the ops focus seems to be to create the best guest experience rather than sucking him dry for every last penny.

The castle for me didn't really work. No match for Shanghai, the one it tries to top. YMMV.

Mystic Manor is terrific, except for the loud volume. Yet I felt strangely unaffected. I didn't get sucked in as one does on Pirates or the Mansion.

Iron Man is the one great Marvel ride Disney has done. Just plain fun.

As with DAK, lush great landscaping can go some way to hide under investment. HKDL was built too cheaply, and it shows. But the entire ground oozes charm and warmth. The metro is awesome. Not unlike DL, the size proportions feel warm and embracing.

Adventureland was my big favourite, great take on the Jungle Cruise. Topped by Grizzly, for me the park's best ride. Together with Iron Man, great modern takes on classic Tony Baxter rides - one uses an entirely new theme but leaves the ride mechanism intact, the other reuses the theme but with entirely different ride.

The food was outstanding, my favourite was indeed the Royal Banquet Hall. Just classic Disney restaurant decoration.

Downsides. The park remains woefully underbuilt. Where it can compete with its DL inspiration for warmth (a quality which can't be overstated for either park), it falls absolutely short in ride count. And even in plain surface area. Then again, Shanghai has too much of that, there you wish you could take an underground from one area to another. Maybe staying on-site creates a greater sense of space, and of place.
The outer rim of Grizzly, Manor and TS are and feel like awkward add-ons. Speaking of, TSL is plain rubbish, as it is everywhere else. Unbelievable they should have copied this cheap carnival land so often. 'Random oversized objects so you think you're small' isn't the fabulously clever design they think it is. By contrast, pictures don't do justice to how pretty MM is.


For a bonus, Hong Kong itself is a fabulous city destination. Orlando might as well not exist. Paris is great, but is now a random Third World hole with more thieves than normal people. LA has its sights but anything worthwhile is a ten hour drive away from Anaheim. HK is convenient, compact, and makes for great tourism.
 

Supersnow84

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With arendelle open I don’t think the park is that under built (though it 100% was at launch), ignoring “transport” rides and “walk through experiences” the park has 16 true rides and 3 high quality stage shows, it also has the two transport rides and the Duffy atttaction

I think at this point the parks problem is twofold
1) there isn’t enough to do at the resort that isn’t the park itself
2) you get things done a lot faster because you wait in less lines so the park feels like there is less to do, think HK has more attractions than DAK, EPCOT, DHS, TDS and equals Shanghai and DCA, but it’s the only one of those that greater than 90 minute lines aren’t really a problem so you get things done faster
 

marni1971

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With arendelle open I don’t think the park is that under built (though it 100% was at launch), ignoring “transport” rides and “walk through experiences” the park has 16 true rides and 3 high quality stage shows, it also has the two transport rides and the Duffy atttaction

I think at this point the parks problem is twofold
1) there isn’t enough to do at the resort that isn’t the park itself
2) you get things done a lot faster because you wait in less lines so the park feels like there is less to do, think HK has more attractions than DAK, EPCOT, DHS, TDS and equals Shanghai and DCA, but it’s the only one of those that greater than 90 minute lines aren’t really a problem so you get things done faster
I’ve said it elsewhere, but The fanboy in me says build the Avengers E. Build the pirates flume. Add a good PPF and the park would be ideal for what it is and what it needs.

Resort wise, out of the park, we didn’t find it lacking. A village area could be nice, but potentially unsustainable. We didn’t miss it. I’m sure they have spreadsheets to tell them If one is needed. We spent 8 nights there and didn’t get bored (though going to bed at 10pm could be an age thing as much as anything!)
 

IMDREW

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I’ve said it elsewhere, but The fanboy in me says build the Avengers E. Build the pirates flume. Add a good PPF and the park would be ideal for what it is and what it needs.

Resort wise, out of the park, we didn’t find it lacking. A village area could be nice, but potentially unsustainable. We didn’t miss it. I’m sure they have spreadsheets to tell them If one is needed. We spent 8 nights there and didn’t get bored (though going to bed at 10pm could be an age thing as much as anything!)
Yes, yes, yes to everything you said. We’ll also be doing 8 nights next september!
 

BrianLo

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Also worth mentioning the park is profitable last quarter, for the first time in 9 years I believe. Frozen seems to have been a huge Boone to further driving the turnaround, one that seems to have started with locals suddenly taking to the park.

I hope it sticks and *hopefully* the Avengers attraction occurs this decade to keep up the momentum.
 

Supersnow84

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Also worth mentioning the park is profitable last quarter, for the first time in 9 years I believe. Frozen seems to have been a huge Boone to further driving the turnaround, one that seems to have started with locals suddenly taking to the park.

I hope it sticks and *hopefully* the Avengers attraction occurs this decade to keep up the momentum.
Do you have a link to this super interested
 

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