Fingerprint scanner?

GrumpysGal

New Member
Original Poster
Hi y'all. I have a question to ask....

You know the finger scanner at the gates? Well, what exactly does that make a copy of? Your fingerprint or the space between your fingers? lol I was told it was to copy the space between your fingers, and I just began to laugh! Can someone explain this to me????

Thank you!!

*Erika*
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
it doesn't read you fingerprint cause well.. Disney would need a sample of your fingerprint.. lol. It measures the distance between your fingers and the length of your fingers
 

GrumpysGal

New Member
Original Poster
oh I see. Well, I guess it must work. I thought it was silliest thing I had ever heard, because how accurate can that be...the way you put your fingers in there can always be a little off....know what I mean?
Thank you MKT for clearing that up for me!
 
I was told it had to do with the distance of the bone structure....I guess b/c they are very dense. On the other hand, I did hear a story of two brother who tried to pull off a switcharoo and, well the one brother's pass was revoked! Folks, don't try this on your own!
 

Malc

New Member
I cannot believe that this does ANYTHING. We are a family of six and last year we kept having this test done as we entered using hopper tickets. But the point is, the tickets were always mixed up. The ticket I had one day, would be used by my wife or daughters the next etc. So how can this work? On some days, we would mix the tickets (not on purpose!!) even on the same day! Whats it all about!!??
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
hopper tickets aren't in the system.. only AP's and CM ID's
 

s25843

Well-Known Member
Well Certain Tickets from Overseas can be subject to the Finger scans.

I have found that the system will work about 80% of the time on the first try, other times I will just have to readjust or just show an id to get in.

I have seen guests put 2 fingers in the area where 1 is supposed to go etc... I think Disney just needs to put some better instructions on the scanners just for those guests who may not know what to do...
 

Badger Brent

Active Member
Our family will be turning in vouchers for our ap's when we arrive at guest relations. Do they do the fingerprint scan at guest relations or your first trip through the turnstiles? How long would you say the process will take from turning in vouchers to entering the gate?
 

CarpeDM

New Member
Badger- we found the process very quick. Of course, it all depends on the lines at the ticket booth and at the turnstile. Once we hit the ticket window, it only took about 2 minutes to get our passes.

The first time you go through the turnstile, they take the finger scan. This only takes a few seconds.

s25843- I wasn't aware that there were single finger scanners at WDW. Everyone I hit required two fingers. Or have I just not been following directions properly? :)
 
Whenever I go with my family, since we have ap's, me and my mom always go right through but for some reason they always have problem with my dad. He claims its cause of his kimo cancer thingy, could that be true or just an excuse cause he's just plauged with bad luck?
 

s25843

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by CarpeDM

s25843- I wasn't aware that there were single finger scanners at WDW. Everyone I hit required two fingers. Or have I just not been following directions properly? :)

I meant that, inside the finger scanner there is a little peg, and that peg is supposed to go in between your fingers, but some people were putting 2 fingers before the peg etc...
 

CarpeDM

New Member
ImagineerGurl- Just have your dad go to guest services and re-issue his annual pass. When they do this, they will reset the finger scan.

This happens to my wife all the time as well. Not sure why.

s25843- Oh, I see now. You had me thinking I was stupidly putting in two fingers when I only needed one. :hammer:
 

Vernonpush

Well-Known Member
A friend of mine is an ap holder, asked if it was for finger prints. They told her that it scanned the bone density of your fingers, which may be the reason that imagineergurl's father has problems.
 

Invero

Well-Known Member
If I recall correctly, I believe the Biometric Scanners basically take a look at the way your fingers are constructed. Bone density, as well as finger printing are different forms of Biometrics, as well as retinal scanning. I beleive Disney uses the bone density for thiers.
 

The Mom

Moderator
Premium Member
Originally posted by imagineergurl
Whenever I go with my family, since we have ap's, me and my mom always go right through but for some reason they always have problem with my dad. He claims its cause of his kimo cancer thingy, could that be true or just an excuse cause he's just plauged with bad luck?

That would be a logical explanation. When it's time to renew, try asking Guest relations if he can be exempted because his bone density will be changing.

I have arthritis in my hands. Sometimes the CMs at the turnstile will allow me to skip it when I tell them, sometimes not. If I'm having a flare up, it just won't work without several tries, so I end up showing them my pass and ID.
 

leeocean

New Member
This is from www.wdwig.com.
It should explain everything.

Finger scans. Just the mere mention of it suggests something out of a Star Trek movie. But finger scans at Walt Disney World are not evil. In fact, they are a necessity if you purchase certain WDW admission media. Hopefully this will take some of the fear of the unknown out of doing a finger scan for your park admission.

In early 1996, Disney began a new system to identify users of annual and seasonal passes. Abandoned was the barcoded laminated photo ID pass in favor of a new mylar paper one. This new pass had no photo and only contained minimal visual evidence of ownership - your name and the expiration date of the pass. What was new was the magnetic strip on the back.

This magnetic strip stored all of your pass information that the previous photo one had plus it would store one new piece of information: your biometric finger scan.

Why does Disney need my fingerprints?

This admission system has nothing to do with your fingerprints. It scans your index and middle fingers and uses a geometric formula to come up with a number that will identify your fingers. The calculated number is apparently something that is not totally unique, but is statistically significant in identifying you.

What admission media require the use of finger scans?

All WDW annual passes, Florida resident's annual, seasonal and specialty passes ("Play-4-Days", etc.) and other selected admission media such as extended admission passes sold in select European and Asian markets.

Does everyone that has one of those passes have to use the finger scan system?

Yes and no. Finger scans are not required for any child passes for children under age 10. Nor are they required for handicapped people who cannot use the finger scanners. If you personally prefer not using the finger scanners, a photo ID can always override the use of biometrics. Just present the gate CM a photo ID and be admitted without using the scanner.

How does the scanner know that it is my fingers, not someone else's?

Because the first time that you use the pass, your initial biometric reading will be recorded. This is the reading that all subsequent admissions will be compared to. The scanner uses six lasers to take a picture of the contours of your fingers. If you are wearing a ring the first time you scan and the second time you are without the ring, it will not recognize you. If you use three fingers instead of 2, it will not recognize you. If you use the opposite hand, it will not recognize you. And if you wear gloves, it will not recognize you.

How do I use a pass that requires finger scans?

You insert your pass into the park entrance turnstyle just like everyone else. After you have inserted your pass, you put your index and middle fingers into the scanner located atop the turnstyle. Once your fingers are inside the scanner, you will feel a small rubber . Place your fingers so that the rubber is between the index finger and the middle finger. *LIGHTLY* bring them together so they touch the rubber and push your hand all the way in so the web part between your index and middle fingers touches the small plastic spindle at the very front. Do not squeeze the rubber tight.

Located atop the finger scanner is an inverted triangular array of red LED's. These LED's will light up when your fingers are first inserted and will all go out when your hand is properly positioned. If you see that some of the lights are still lit, slowly move your hand inside the scanner in the opposite direction of those lights. When all ten of the lights have gone out, all the lights will blink signifying that it has read and verified your biometric reading and your pass will be ejected through the turnstile and you will be able to enter the park.

How should I put my hand in?

Make a "peace sign" with a clenched fist and insert the index and middle fingers around the rubber . Push your hand in until the small plastic spindle sits firmly in the "v" between the two fingers.

What happens if I can't get all the LED's to go out?

Then your pass will have to be overridden by the CM at the gate. They will ask you for your ID to verify that the name on the pass matches yours.

Sometimes you will successfully complete the finger scanning and the turnstile still won't let you in. If this happens, you can ask the gate CM to reset your biometrics. This often, but not always, helps. The biometrics can only be reset during a successful finger scan (all lights go out).

Sometimes the magnetic strip on your pass gets demagnetized or otherwise compromised. You can take it to any Guest Relations window where they will replace your pass for you.

I tried all that and I still can't get my pass to work right. Is there anything else I can do?

You can take it to Guest Relations and ask them to permanently override the biometrics requirement. This will *require* you to show a photo ID every time you enter a park.

Should I care if my pass has to be overridden at the gate?

There are several codes the gate CM can use to override the biometrics. If the gate CM codes your override incorrectly, you will not be able to use the FastPass machines during your stay at that park. This is because the computer will not show your pass actually being used for admission that day. Each time you put your pass in a FastPass machine, you will get back a slip that says "not valid pass" instead of a FastPass. You will have to get the attraction FastPass CM to override the "not valid pass" info that the computer will give. This can be a real pain explaining this to the CM at every attraction you want a FastPass for.
 

agdbeanie

New Member
When I went one time with my husband we switched our AP's to test the system and it still worked, so I think its all just one big hoax to deter people and scare them from trying to beat the system.
 

Timekeeper

Well-Known Member
It is BEYOND ME why Disney doesn't use the type of passes being used at Universal. Plastic is more durable, waterproof, shows picture, has magnetic stripe, etc. If they really feel the need to use those finger things, then fine. But having to provide additional photo idea is a pain in the, um, fingers. Having the passholder's photo on the face would be the "backup" if the scanner didn't work. I would have been willing to wait the extra 5 minutes to take a picture and print the card rather than have something extremely flimsy and easily disfigured. I would imagine that CM's (ie parking) would be able to eyeball a plastic card (AP) better than the current passes, which all look more or less the same except for some small print on it.

My AP says "play 4 days upgrade" on it and usually causes CM's to do a double take before realizing that it's really just an AP. Will WDW re-issue a new pass upon my request that doesn't have the extra verbage on it that often causes delays or confusion?

Tk
 

s25843

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Timekeeper
It is BEYOND ME why Disney doesn't use the type of passes being used at Universal. Plastic is more durable, waterproof, shows picture, has magnetic stripe, etc. If they really feel the need to use those finger things, then fine. But having to provide additional photo idea is a pain in the, um, fingers. Having the passholder's photo on the face would be the "backup" if the scanner didn't work. I would have been willing to wait the extra 5 minutes to take a picture and print the card rather than have something extremely flimsy and easily disfigured. I would imagine that CM's (ie parking) would be able to eyeball a plastic card (AP) better than the current passes, which all look more or less the same except for some small print on it.

My AP says "play 4 days upgrade" on it and usually causes CM's to do a double take before realizing that it's really just an AP. Will WDW re-issue a new pass upon my request that doesn't have the extra verbage on it that often causes delays or confusion?

Tk

Back in 1996 or so They used to have the Plastic Photo ID cards....
Yes they will reissue your AP however many times you loose it/get it wet/or otherwise compromise its intregety, but the pass will aways say the same thing on it.
 
Huge database

Do they keep your info? I was once an AP holder and think when I first got it, I had to place my fingers in to register them. Lately I haven't gotten the AP and this year I recieved free passes from the Salute to the Armed Forces Recognition. I did not have to place my finger in the scanner until I went though the gate, my wife did not have to do this because we paid for her ticket. How did the CM know to ask for my finger scan and when it is not needed?
 

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