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EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

Cmdr_Crimson

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I wouldn’t even say it’s great. A marginal improvement at best lol! To think.. they spent all the money simply shoehorning in Figment to the lousy Honey I Shrunk themed Institute tour retheme nobody liked, doubling down on that theming, even paying enough to get Eric Idle to come back as Dr. Nigel Channing (the character ‘nobody’ liked as a Dreamfinder replacement I might add) when they literally got in Chuck McCann (Dreamfinder’s OG voice) to record ‘snoring’ behind a closed “Dream Lab” door after the ridiculous Skunk fart scene. Like, seriously??? Wouldn’t it have cost less simply to bring back Dreamfinder, the original show scenes & theming, etc. considering it was ‘already’ made, recorded and basically had to be refurbed/restored & rebuilt, rather than what they did. Things that make you go “Why??”.. when what they should’ve done was simply restore it back to what it originally was w the tech & spfx enhancements we expected to happen when it initially was due for an update. And if they didn’t have the budget at the time, it honestly would’ve been better to leave it closed til the budget was good enough to restore & enhance it properly, I said what I said.
Well at one point the original JII 1.0 was alive and running and HISTA was being shown as just an IP Based 3d film in the Magic Eye theater for five years prior to the re-de-imagining and had no connection to the pavilion.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Well at one point the original JII 1.0 was alive and running and HISTA was being shown as just an IP Based 3d film in the Magic Eye theater for five years prior to the re-de-imagining and had no connection to the pavilion.
Exactly.. and that’s kind of my point. For years the Magic Eye Theater and Journey Into Imagination & ImageWorks were able to operate the way they did perfectly fine as they did before that happened. It just begs the question why they absolutley insisted on doing that to the ride. I mean, I get the maintenance cost reasons but then again, I don’t.. it’s like, the ride was incredibly popular & sold merchandise. That easily makes up for maintenance costs, not to mention, it seemed in pretty darn good condition too before it closed… It’s genuinely ‘the’ most baffling decision they’ve ever made in Parks history. Of course I know Figments Friend has elaborated more on why it happened, but still, it’s truly baffling how and why that was able to happen. Genuinely shocking. And even more of a shock it hasn’t been restored/fixed properly since. Despite the large (and I mean large) clamoring & merch sale data for decades now. It was ‘clearly’ a mistake to retheme it to IP, and it should’ve been genuinely corrected (not the lousy, what should’ve been temporary band-aid fix we got in ‘02) years ago. Like.. cmon now. Genuinely insane. Taking what was very clearly ‘the’ most popular EPCOT ride right behind Spaceship Earth and making it one of the least after the ill-conceived, deceiving IP retheme. What in the world?? That is quite a feat to accomplish. At this point, who wouldn’t want to fix it/restore it back to what it was with the enhancements we expected to see? It’d only sell ‘more’ merch and provide a ton of goodwill and possibly provide more entertainment opportunities it could expand to after. And what fan wouldn’t want to come back to EPCOT to experience that again, not to mention, what visitor wouldn’t want to experience a classic perennial fan favorite w tons of good word of mouth like that? I mean, cmon
 
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jah4955

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Second to UoE at 45 mins with that A/C.......If it didn't change to a 3 min coaster...
yeah...Imagination 1.0 was a "chef's kiss"....made you feel Disney genuinely loved and appreciated you (and not so much your dollars). That being said, when's the last time anyone heard someone say "Disney please take my money" because of something that really impressed someone?
 
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Homemade Imagineering

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Did the figure with the toy blocks ever have a mouth movement? Can’t really tell from online POVs of the original, although he didn’t have any dialogue at that section of the ride so I kind of doubt it?

His neck also looks a little shorter here, but that’s probably the clothes. That figure is in the archives, toy blocks and everything. Can’t imagine they’d stick him back in there unless he’s already been heavily restored in the past. Wouldn’t be hard to get a pneumatic figure like that up and running again, especially such a simple one

Crazy how many Figment AAs are out there…
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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Did the figure with the toy blocks ever have a mouth movement? Can’t really tell from online POVs of the original, although he didn’t have any dialogue at that section of the ride so I kind of doubt it?

His neck also looks a little shorter here, but that’s probably the clothes. That figure is in the archives, toy blocks and everything. Can’t imagine they’d stick him back in there unless he’s already been heavily restored in the past. Wouldn’t be hard to get a pneumatic figure like that up and running again, especially such a simple one

Crazy how many Figment AAs are out there…
Are we sure this isn't one of the ones from the Dreamships in the start of the ride?
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Did the figure with the toy blocks ever have a mouth movement? Can’t really tell from online POVs of the original, although he didn’t have any dialogue at that section of the ride so I kind of doubt it?

His neck also looks a little shorter here, but that’s probably the clothes. That figure is in the archives, toy blocks and everything. Can’t imagine they’d stick him back in there unless he’s already been heavily restored in the past. Wouldn’t be hard to get a pneumatic figure like that up and running again, especially such a simple one

Crazy how many Figment AAs are out there…
Yeah, he did, check out Martin’s Vids tribute videos of the ride. His mouth opens in surprise while his head moves left and right, just like the current “B-Mode” Detour figure does atm.
 

Homemade Imagineering

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Yeah, he did, check out Martin’s Vids tribute videos of the ride. His mouth opens in surprise while his head moves left and right, just like the current “B-Mode” Detour figure does atm.
Thanks for clarifying! Hope we can get a longer clip of this guy in action soon.

Once the original detour figure is fixed they should put this guy in the finale, would make a fun addition between now and whenever they actually get around to fixing this godawful ride
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Are we sure this isn't one of the ones from the Dreamships in the start of the ride?
Yeah, because those had a different body & feet sculpt, also a much larger range of head/neck movement, on top of wings that’d flap.
(Interesting thing to note though, in the Sound Lab, that figure is the same (or at the very least the same mold or figure recreated) as the Artist Figment by the decorative, whimsical white ledge/rainbow pond holding the pot of rainbow mist. Same movements and sculpt (though of course he’s been redressed and given a phone as opposed to a pot with a lid, but he’s been retrofitted onto one of the “Dreamship” hatch mechs that’s able to lift him up & down and turn him both to the left (his right) and back to center (just like the Figment in that scene was able to do)
 
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Figments Friend

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So a few observations……

The details of the original ‘Literature / Cat Bat Blocks’ figure are not there in this current replacement.

When the original ‘Blocks’ figure was salvaged from the Original Attraction, it was repurposed as a static display piece.
That meant some changes were required….

The original cosmetic ‘skin’ with all of those carefully crafted WED details was changed out, and replaced with a smoother almost ‘plastic’ looking outer coating to keep him bright purple.
Original skins fade and become discolored with time…and the purple turns ‘gray’.

Ditto for the original eyes…the originals were very round and defined, and the later non-moving replacement versions inherited by the static display version are just awful and non-focused.
Figment looks like he has been sniffing too much contact cement in Central Shops…


This display figure has been around for several years, as has been noted.
But always just a static display piece.

It should be noted that the arms seem to have been swapped out for use in the current Attraction, as the original hands had large holes in them to support the turning block mechanism.

The remade yellow sweater is two sizes too big for this slender figure, making him appear much shorter and ‘fatter’ when compared to the Original figure.


Interesting someone thought this would be okay as a temporary fix.
I would enjoy hearing the discussion that took place okaying this.

I call this ‘Bad Show’…. regardless of any connected nostalgia.

And calling this a ‘Original animatronic from the Original Attraction’ I find a bit of a stretch.

I would say this is more a heavily modified former Original figure that has been a static display piece for years and was altered some time ago to be such.
Now it seems said static display figure has been turned back into a temporary moving figure as a stand in.


The dragon has spoken….



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Zak and Wheezie

Active Member
I can't believe what they just did to this ride. Like they're insulting the fans of Figment who want better. What... were they thinking? It reminds me of an intentionally stilted and creepy animatronic in a kids cartoon for parody.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

Well-Known Member
I can't believe what they just did to this ride. Like they're insulting the fans of Figment who want better. What... were they thinking? It reminds me of an intentionally stilted and creepy animatronic in a kids cartoon for parody.
I honestly think it was a bit of an oversight is all.. the idea I think was fine, have a temporary figure there in the meantime while they work on the regular figure, but mainly because of his wonkily painted eye pupils, he’s had a negative reaction. I genuinely believe the simple repaint (correct size & position of his eye pupils) & making a new shirt that’s the correct size w short sleeves to callback to the original ride would do wonders, truthfully. All of that can be reused in the future for when the time comes. That figure put back into the Literature scene with the blocks & mech to make the left block spin from a C to a B, where he belongs, and the classic shirt put back on the Detour/OG Film Finale Figment figure when he’s all fixed/ready.
 
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