Rumor Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

[yensidtlaw1969]

This needs to close. It’s time.

It’s in disrepair and it’s a below the quality standard. In years past, it was able to shuffle on, but it has reached the end of the line.

I do think this may be the year an announcement comes. The figurative smoke is bigger than it has ever been. Fingers crossed.

If I were you I wouldn't get my hopes up for this year . . . plans can change, but right now this isn't in the foreground. They do have concepts, of course.

Based on what I've been hearing, I'd say a new Imagination before the end of the decade is possible, but not guaranteed. They've got bigger fish they want to fry first.

EDITED To Add: Just caught up on some of the more recent posts in this thread - it's true that EPCOT is probably lowest on the list of the 4 WDW Parks for new attractions (revised Test Track notwithstanding). MK, AK, and DHS all have significant things actively in the works. Which will materialize first remains to be seen, but I'd bet on AK or DHS. EPCOT *could* theoretically get something new before MK's big projects open, but that would likely come down to how ambitious they are at MK and how long it takes to open stuff. Seems like they really do wanna swing big there.

Nemo isn't particularly popular but I believe its GSATs are better than Imagination, and rightfully so. Disney knows Imagination is a wasteland but fixing it isn't the priority.

 

[UNCgolf]

Nemo isn't particularly popular but I believe its GSATs are better than Imagination, and rightfully so. Disney knows Imagination is a wasteland but fixing it isn't the priority.

The last two times I was there Imagination supposedly had a longer wait than Nemo (not that that's saying much; Imagination was posted as 20 minutes and Nemo posted as 10) -- I didn't ride, so I can't say if it actually did, but the one time I rode Nemo the entire queue was empty. We just walked straight through and boarded.

I don't have trouble believing the Nemo GSATs are higher, though. And as I said, Nemo isn't really important to the function of the pavilion; it would have roughly the same number of visitors if the ride didn't exist.

Imagination, on the other hand, is basically just wasted space since the whole pavilion is barely used.

As for DHS... I hope they're smart enough to not just dust off the Door Coaster (as has been rumored recently), unless they're planning to build two or three other attractions along with it. Adding a new coaster to DHS without anything else would probably make the park's existing problems worse.

 

[HMF]

Yeah, SSE is still a good ride, it just needs maintenance (and a fixed descent).

and a non-insulting script.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

and a non-insulting script.

And better music score..

 

[Tegan pilots a chicken]

SSE is still a wonderful experience. If they wanted to go with an inexpensive refurb, just remove the screens and make the ascent and descent look good. Some interesting lighting and a nice score would really go so far. Like 90% of the ride doesn’t need changed. Though I would love to see the planetarium-esque section restored to its former glory.

Imagination on the other hand is just embarrassing at this point. Though when I’ve brought first timers to WDW they generally end up enjoying it for what it is. But it really could and should be so, so much more.

One is the park icon the other is the park mascot. Idk which one should be fixed first for those reasons, though I lean toward Imagination.

But I wish we could get something at all in the former WoL pavilion.

 

[Haymarket2008]

If I were you I wouldn't get my hopes up for this year . . . plans can change, but right now this isn't in the foreground. They do have concepts, of course.

Based on what I've been hearing, I'd say a new Imagination before the end of the decade is possible, but not guaranteed. They've got bigger fish they want to fry first.

EDITED To Add: Just caught up on some of the more recent posts in this thread - it's true that EPCOT is probably lowest on the list of the 4 WDW Parks for new attractions (revised Test Track notwithstanding). MK, AK, and DHS all have significant things actively in the works. Which will materialize first remains to be seen, but I'd bet on AK or DHS. EPCOT *could* theoretically get something new before MK's big projects open, but that would likely come down to how ambitious they are at MK and how long it takes to open stuff. Seems like they really do wanna swing big there.

Nemo isn't particularly popular but I believe its GSATs are better than Imagination, and rightfully so. Disney knows Imagination is a wasteland but fixing it isn't the priority.

Thanks for the reply. It's fascinating to get a small insight into their thought process. Despite me being the EPCOT fan, I fully realize that the other parks need capacity....badly.

It really stinks Imagination is left to fester, but I'd much rather this take its time and come out on top than be a rush job.

AK needs investment, DHS needs FAR more variety and redevelopment (arguably more than any park on property).

I understand the need to alleviate the absolutely unbearable crowd situation in Magic Kingdom, but I am weary of truly MAJOR expansion. Hopefully it won't dilute the product. I'm still very much of the mind that MK needs the "Disneyland 60" treatment: basically everything got a medium to heavy sized refurbishment budget. That park looked spectacular in 2015.

 

[Haymarket2008]

If I were you I wouldn't get my hopes up for this year . . . plans can change, but right now this isn't in the foreground. They do have concepts, of course.

Based on what I've been hearing, I'd say a new Imagination before the end of the decade is possible, but not guaranteed. They've got bigger fish they want to fry first.

EDITED To Add: Just caught up on some of the more recent posts in this thread - it's true that EPCOT is probably lowest on the list of the 4 WDW Parks for new attractions (revised Test Track notwithstanding). MK, AK, and DHS all have significant things actively in the works. Which will materialize first remains to be seen, but I'd bet on AK or DHS. EPCOT *could* theoretically get something new before MK's big projects open, but that would likely come down to how ambitious they are at MK and how long it takes to open stuff. Seems like they really do wanna swing big there.

Nemo isn't particularly popular but I believe its GSATs are better than Imagination, and rightfully so. Disney knows Imagination is a wasteland but fixing it isn't the priority.

Also........any bread crumbs you might be willing to drop regarding specifics?

 

[SpectreJordan]

They aren’t changing Imagination, SSE, or WoL anytime soon. Disney can’t wait to finally wipe their hands clean of this entire Epcot overhaul fiasco.

Dinoland, Beyond Big Thunder, and Animation Courtyard are now ahead of anything in Epcot in the queue for attention (not including TT which has a sponsor). When those are done, in like 2046, maybe Epcot will see some “love” again.

WoL sitting there empty for so long is one of the most idiotic things in park history. Why didn't they just tear it down & put Guardians there while keeping Universe open?

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

Test Track going down for over a year is going to hurt capacity.

Are we certain it's going to be over a year? Last go around was less than eight months. The park has more capacity now than it did in 2012 (or a similar figure at the bare minimum, and I'd say even at that Guardians pulls way more riders than Energy did in its last decade) so I don't think they're stressed about that. Opening WoL as they planned would have done effectively nothing as it was just one big kids zone.

WoL sitting there empty for so long is one of the most idiotic things in park history. Why didn't they just tear it down & put Guardians there while keeping Universe open?

Well for one, they didn't want to keep UoE open lol. For two, once upon a time they had plans for both plots and wanted them both back online in 2021. Neither met that target, but at least something did ultimately open inside UoE.

 

[Gillyanne]

I was skimming other blogs that post merch, since it's the start of the festival. I usually do that to get an idea of what I may want to buy. I did not see a single Figment item in F&G merch this year [so far]. My wallet thanks them, but also a little sad as F&G do make up a bunch of my collection stuff (it was always guaranteed new merch each year)

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

I was skimming other blogs that post merch, since it's the start of the festival. I usually do that to get an idea of what I may want to buy. I did not see a single Figment item in F&G merch this year [so far]. My wallet thanks them, but also a little sad as F&G do make up a bunch of my collection stuff (it was always guaranteed new merch each year)

I think they are on and off with the characters for the events Figment Gets Festival of Arts & The food and wine. While Orange Bird and Spike the Bee take over then Flower and Garden. I don't think they really use a selective characters for the holidays tho.

 

[trainplane3]

I think they are on and off with the characters for the events Figment Gets Festival of Arts & The food and wine. While Orange Bird and Spike the Bee take over then Flower and Garden. I don't think they really use a selective characters for the holidays tho.

I'd even say Remi was the Food and Wine mascot for a while but the merch last year was mainly Mickey and Minnie. Figment still appears on at least one thing in each festival anyways.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

I'd even say Remi was the Food and Wine mascot for a while but the merch last year was mainly Mickey and Minnie. Figment still appears on at least one thing in each festival anyways.

This was from 2 years ago for example..That seems to be a bit of Figment
Pic from Blogmickey

 

[Gillyanne]

Figment still appears on at least one thing in each festival anyways.

This is what I was hoping, I looked through my stuff and I have at least 1 Figment thing F&G for every year 2018-2023... so this will be the first in a while if there's truly nothing.....

ETA: I also have at least 1 from 2016; I may not have been around it 2017 so it could've had stuff too.... I think I got my first pass fall 2015 and started with an on a year/off a year so Spring 2017 would've been an "off" year to visit....

 

[aladdin2007]

This was from 2 years ago for example..That seems to be a bit of Figment
Pic from Blogmickey

I loved those figment plates that year, if any one can find one online for themselves its worth it.

 

[ElectricCenter82]

Ok so I posted about on a different thread…but this recent find is honestly really fascinating/ sad. I somehow was able to find one of the ONLY interior photos of the construction of Journey Into Your Imagination out there. It’s really sad knowing that this was once the former turntable/ finale scene. But it’s also incredibly fascinating because there’s almost nothing regarding JIYI’s development or construction. What’s crazy is that this is official B roll, so there probably exists even more construction footage that’s locked away in the vaults

 

[WaluigiTime]

Ok so I posted about on a different thread…but this recent find is honestly really fascinating/ sad. I somehow was able to find one of the ONLY interior photos of the construction of Journey Into Your Imagination out there. It’s really sad knowing that this was once the former turntable/ finale scene. But it’s also incredibly fascinating because there’s almost nothing regarding JIYI’s development or construction. What’s crazy is that this is official B roll, so there probably exists even more construction footage that’s locked away in the vaultsView attachment 770900

Tom K Morris has posted some behind the scenes images on his Twitter






I am sure he posted even more

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

Tom K Morris has posted some behind the scenes images on his Twitter

I am sure he posted even more

I believe they were referring specifically to photos of the second ride’s construction.

 

[Gusey]

Pure speculation, but does it feel like they're emptying out the Imagination Pavilion? Joy is moving to Hollywood Studios on June 10, Mickey is moving to CommuniCore Hall on June 10, the announcement of another DVC Lounge could provide an alternative if Imagination's closes? That leaves Figment meet and greet, Imagination with Figment and Disney & Pixar Short Film Festival

 

[Earlie the Pearlie]

Pure speculation, but does it feel like they're emptying out the Imagination Pavilion? Joy is moving to Hollywood Studios on June 10, Mickey is moving to CommuniCore Hall on June 10, the announcement of another DVC Lounge could provide an alternative if Imagination's closes? That leaves Figment meet and greet, Imagination with Figment and Disney & Pixar Short Film Festival

Did not know about Joy moving, but that’s great!
Any straws are graspable, and we’ve been waiting for these particular moves for a while.