MrPromey
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What electrical parade?
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Fight over Disney fireworks show leaves woman suffering from a brain bleed. Happened on May 9th, finally was resolved.
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What electrical parade?
TrainsOfDisney
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It’s been so long people have forgotten!?
Disstevefan1
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Bobby C. Says no! Having folks fight is much better; Disney already has their money and they must leave the park and Disney saves money not having to put on multiple shows.
bhg469
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Less light bulbs to change, less entertainment to pay for and less CMs to collect paychecks. All parks must close by 8pm and in the winter 6:00
MrPromey
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It’s been so long people have forgotten!?
I was being dramatic.
I certainly didn't forget but unless we are going to get a Disneyland castoff yet again, or unless they decide to develop something new, there isn't anything sitting around in Florida waiting to be brought back, right?
It's not like we have an existing one they can double up performances on or like they can dust off the cobwebs, air out the mothballs, and change a few bulbs and have anything running this year.
MrPromey
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And this is where Disney could come into the lawsuit.
Crowd control in front of that castle these days, is downright scary.
The last time I was there for a castle show, I watched them keep a corridor open to keep pumping people towards the castle. Once that area was full, they then filled that corridor with people. Shortly before the show started, the cast member in front of me who had been directing people went over the railing to stand safely behind it for the duration of the show - he said he did that every night now and acted like it was policy.
They keep a strip of space open for emergency personnel at the back that runs kind of across the mouth of main street which privdes direct access to first aid and back stage points of entry but if there were an actual emergency somewhere up front and they had to rely on crowds to safely disperse in a quick and orderly fashion, there is absolutely nowhere for anyone to go.
Don't forget, that plaza viewing area was originally supposed to be to help handle crowds back before front-of-castle viewing was so essential. Then they decided to monetize it, instead.
And things have, of course, gotten significantly worse since that time they originally felt they needed to address it before profit took priority.
Disney is in fact, knowingly, at least partially to blame for situations like this.
I'm sure any lawyer would be aware of Disney's money, insurance and would be eyeing that angle pretty closely.
We lament frivolous lawsuits in this country and there are obviously far too many of them but sadly, legal exposure that results in financial damage is what it takes to get large companies to do "the right thing" sometimes.
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flynnibus
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You're saying there are no openings at all in the hub? I find this hard to believe. They usually keep a through pathway around the hub. It was in the chaos when fireworks finished that the lack of crowd control tended to create 'sea of people'.
What the lay usually get upset over is the 'condensing' Disney will do in the last 15mins before the show where they encourage everyone to get up and move forward... which will open up new space in what were previously 'full' pens.
"Do you remember your first Magic Kingdom nighttime Parade?"It’s been so long people have forgotten!?
"I don't even remember my last Magic Kingdom nighttime Parade."
TrainsOfDisney
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I’ve seen this as well. It definitely happens and in my opinion is an incredibly dangerous practice.
MrPromey
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I don't blame you. I'd find it hard to believe too if I hadn't witnessed it.*
Being semi-local, having had passes for more than two decades (closer to four if you count non-continuous parts of my childhood) and visiting the parks a dozen or more times a year, I know exactly what you're talking about.
This was about a month before pandemic shutdown (so things may have changed) and I do not claim to have gotten a birds eye view of the entire hub to verify it was like this over the whole thing but where I was, near the middle, just off to the right (facing the castle), that's exactly what they were doing. They back-filled the entire pathway just prior to the show starting.
I was in disbelief myself which is what prompted the conversation with the rail-jumping castmember (pre-rail jump) where he confirmed this was "normal" with the newish show who agreed with my feelings and explained how he would be going over the rail to my left in the center area just prior to the show starting once he was no longer directing people - as he was, as of that point, doing every night if he was to be believed.
I know about the opening in the back due to having to get my son to first aid from Tomorrowland just prior to the start of a show a couple of months before that. After being let in by a cast member on the Tomorroalnd side, clearly carrying him in my arms and half running, I got yelled at several times by cast for being in there for being between the ropes as I was trying to get him over to first aid so I can confirm that they were definitely enforcing the effort to keep that clear.
*this was one of a large number of final straw moments that confirmed my decision to not renew our passes. I've sort-of been back one time to Epcot briefly under unique circumstances that didn't require me to pay for admission where I got to see the tacos for myself prior to that show being open and that's been it.
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No one recalls the only night in DAK history that the park had a fireworks show more than 20 years ago. On NYE, the guests stood in the parking lot to view the fireworks. Never again and the show drove the animals crazy.
Disstevefan1
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Bobby is earning his bonus!
To achieve performance bonuses include saving $$ for company. Nothing new here.
Disstevefan1
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Exactly what I was saying.