lpet11984
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Talk about really dividing up the haves and the have-nots
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Fastpass - What Do You Think?
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Talk about really dividing up the haves and the have-nots
nibblesandbits
Well-Known Member
I love Fastpass. I think it's a wonderful invention.
My only problem with it is that sometimes I think that CM let a disproportionate amount of FPs in VS standby line. I understand that they need to let the FP people through...but if the lines are both long, I hate how they will continually let the FP people through without stopping for a few minutes to let those people who are stuck in the standby lane...either by choice or by necessity. I have even seen when the FP line is non-existant, but they still don't let standby people in...waiting for more FP people to show up. How is that fair?
My only problem with it is that sometimes I think that CM let a disproportionate amount of FPs in VS standby line. I understand that they need to let the FP people through...but if the lines are both long, I hate how they will continually let the FP people through without stopping for a few minutes to let those people who are stuck in the standby lane...either by choice or by necessity. I have even seen when the FP line is non-existant, but they still don't let standby people in...waiting for more FP people to show up. How is that fair?
Tim G
Well-Known Member
No forking please...
DisneyDragon
New Member
Len, agree with your logic, but the number of parameters required to satisfy FASTPASS as a zero-sum game is pretty unlikely:
- Disney does nothing to affect capacity, like adding vehicles, staff, etc., and I'm pretty sure (not 100%) that FASTPASS changes in real or near-real time based on capacity constraints
- All FASTPASS takers use them, and at the right window
- All FASTPASS windows are perfectly aligned with park and attraction operating windows
- All people who enter the queue will stay for the entire time and ride the attraction (won't consider people who balk at the queue since they are outside the system)
- That 'at capacity' means there is a perfect alignment of supply of possible riders to the attraction at all operating hours
I say that "doubt that happens in real life" is probably pretty true. Until I read that, I thought you had jumped from Engineer to Economist!!! Phew...:lol:
And reserving them for Resort Guests? No way for so many reasons!
Walt Sent Me
New Member
Let me speak for all Cast members when I say...
FASTPASS NEEDS TO GO AWAY!!!!
It is a great invention that went terribly wrong. It has trained guests to be so very impatient. Thank god I work at an attraction that has no fastpass! It's hilarious that a family will not wait 20 minutes for a ride. A brand new one at that!
Hello people... when you go to WDW... you're gonna have to wait in a damn line!
here's a thought: Talk to your family!
FASTPASS NEEDS TO GO AWAY!!!!
It is a great invention that went terribly wrong. It has trained guests to be so very impatient. Thank god I work at an attraction that has no fastpass! It's hilarious that a family will not wait 20 minutes for a ride. A brand new one at that!
Hello people... when you go to WDW... you're gonna have to wait in a damn line!
here's a thought: Talk to your family!
Epcot82Guy
Well-Known Member
I do agree that it makes the expectation of short lines high. However, I don't think that is entirely fastpass. Society wants quick, so it is merely going along with desires of the masses (as with so many things). I personally love it because it makes me feel like I get the system and am benefitting moreso than others (even though I do nothing more than use FP to its potential). But, I agree that anything beyond a 20 min. wait feels excessive (although I also go in the down season, so that is mroe the norm anyway).
Harry456
Member
we live in times where waiting is over-rated and waiting 20 minutes in lines is WAY TO LONG! lol, ya, such is life.
yes i have something got a FP to Tot and realize that its only a 20-minute wait. So what we do is ride it in the stand-by line and ride it in the FP line. HEY, two ride in just over a hour!!
note to self: Don't talk to "Walt Sent Me" on a bad day lol. :fork:
yes i have something got a FP to Tot and realize that its only a 20-minute wait. So what we do is ride it in the stand-by line and ride it in the FP line. HEY, two ride in just over a hour!!
dreamscometrue
Well-Known Member
I doubt very much that you are speaking for all CMs.
Fastpass simply gives people the option to wait in line as always has been the case or come back at a later time and ride if they are willing to be somewhat proactive and organized.
I would say that people are not trained by FP to be impatient. It is simply a sign of the times in which we live. Nothing seems to be fast enough...microwave ovens, high speed internet, on demand television, etc. Many people today want everything instantly. I see impatient people everywhere and I don't think there are FPs causing this at Wal-Mart or my local fast food joint.
Although there is nothing wrong with waiting in a queue, FP is a wonderful invention that does allow for a much more productive and efficient (fun!) day at the parks.
Walt Sent Me
New Member
True: I may not speak for all cast members... sorry about that.
But I still am allowed to my opinion, and as someone who has to deal with this day to day, it is a very strong opinion.
But I still am allowed to my opinion, and as someone who has to deal with this day to day, it is a very strong opinion.
I went to WDW both before and after FP. Personally, I like it.
I used to stop at a "must see" attraction early in the AM, see a 60- 90 min wait time, and say to myself (I'll try again later) Then, later comes, and the line is still 60 mins, so I just never see/ride the attraction.
Now, I get a FP and am GUARANTEED a relatively short wait, and I don't have to keep checking back to see how long the wait might be.
I used to stop at a "must see" attraction early in the AM, see a 60- 90 min wait time, and say to myself (I'll try again later) Then, later comes, and the line is still 60 mins, so I just never see/ride the attraction.
Now, I get a FP and am GUARANTEED a relatively short wait, and I don't have to keep checking back to see how long the wait might be.
isitingood
New Member
Hi yet again,
I have a couple questions!
Do you think using a Fastpass for a popular attraction dramatically reduces the wait time?
..and...
Do you think Fastpasses should only be available to resort guests?
Yes it does reduce the time,I always use the fastpass.
kimluvswdw
New Member
Fastpass Idea
What do you think about them letting ten on a ride from the fastpass line and then let 10 go from the standby line? It may make both lines go faster and the fastpassers would still get on alot faster than doing standby.
The Winnie the Pooh ride is the worst, they let the fastpass people go until there aren't anymore and then they let the stanby people go. Without a fastpass the ride isn't worth the wait.
Just an idea.:lol:
What do you think about them letting ten on a ride from the fastpass line and then let 10 go from the standby line? It may make both lines go faster and the fastpassers would still get on alot faster than doing standby.
The Winnie the Pooh ride is the worst, they let the fastpass people go until there aren't anymore and then they let the stanby people go. Without a fastpass the ride isn't worth the wait.
Just an idea.:lol:
amykissangel
Member
In no way trying to argue, just wondering why you think this...bad experiences with FastPass?
Thanks!:wave:
Madhatter06
Member
Fastpass is good while it's there
1) During my trip to WDW last week I used fastpass twice.
Once for Soarin in Epcot which produced a 25 minute wait (but much better than the 70 min standby line)
The other time for Big Thunder Mountain in Magic Kingdom. Though the wait time said 20 min my aunt and I still opted for the fastpass so we could move on to some other rides. We were definitly glad we did because when we went back, the standby line still said 20 min, but some people had been waiting as long as 45 minutes
On the other hand, the kiosks don't always work. Both Expedition Everest and Space Mountain had broken computers so fastpass wasn't available, and the line was over an hour long for Everest as a result. If that is ever the case though, ask about doing a single rider option and they'll pull strings (I did that for Space Mountain and they allowed me into the fastpass lane where I had a 10 min wait!)
2) I think we have so many other privledges being guests of the resorts we can share fastpass with others.
1) During my trip to WDW last week I used fastpass twice.
Once for Soarin in Epcot which produced a 25 minute wait (but much better than the 70 min standby line)
The other time for Big Thunder Mountain in Magic Kingdom. Though the wait time said 20 min my aunt and I still opted for the fastpass so we could move on to some other rides. We were definitly glad we did because when we went back, the standby line still said 20 min, but some people had been waiting as long as 45 minutes
On the other hand, the kiosks don't always work. Both Expedition Everest and Space Mountain had broken computers so fastpass wasn't available, and the line was over an hour long for Everest as a result. If that is ever the case though, ask about doing a single rider option and they'll pull strings (I did that for Space Mountain and they allowed me into the fastpass lane where I had a 10 min wait!)
2) I think we have so many other privledges being guests of the resorts we can share fastpass with others.
- In the Parks
- No
Hi yet again,
I have a couple questions!
Do you think using a Fastpass for a popular attraction dramatically reduces the wait time?
..and...
Do you think Fastpasses should only be available to resort guests?
Yes...whenever we have used them we have saved time. My children are young double digits and have patience and stamina to get them and go enjoy things elsewhere that we like. Think you get much more efficient at THEM being efficient after a few trips when you get a true feel for the layout and your families interest. Usually we head straight to Splash Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain and get a fastpass for the one with the longer line...maybe ride the other if wait is not too bad..then goof around the area at other nearby stuff sometimes til we can get 2nd one for Big Thunder....then go off to other areas.
I think it would be neat if resorts gave families special fast passes, but I think it may clog the system if that many people had them....think it should be a perk for concierge level guests for the extra $$$$ you fork over....
Fastpass is great!
As many have said before, fastpass allows you to be waiting in two lines at once, the once that you have the fastpass to and the one that you are actually in the line for. If you plan it well you can almost always be waiting in line for the ride you don't have the fastpass for, talking to people, meeting people (things I really enjoy) and then ride that ride after which you can go into the much shorter line for the ride you did get the fastpass to. Way to go Disney. The only people that are really left out with the existing fastpass scheme are people who role out of bed at noon, the really hot attractions will be out of fastpasses by the time they make it to the parks.
I think the idea of resort only fastpasses is horrible. That is something that Universal actually does for their resort guests (I don't know if it is all the time or just during special promotions) and it is pretty horrible (and I was one of the people with the resort VIP pass, and I still hated it).
As many have said before, fastpass allows you to be waiting in two lines at once, the once that you have the fastpass to and the one that you are actually in the line for. If you plan it well you can almost always be waiting in line for the ride you don't have the fastpass for, talking to people, meeting people (things I really enjoy) and then ride that ride after which you can go into the much shorter line for the ride you did get the fastpass to. Way to go Disney. The only people that are really left out with the existing fastpass scheme are people who role out of bed at noon, the really hot attractions will be out of fastpasses by the time they make it to the parks.
I think the idea of resort only fastpasses is horrible. That is something that Universal actually does for their resort guests (I don't know if it is all the time or just during special promotions) and it is pretty horrible (and I was one of the people with the resort VIP pass, and I still hated it).
bob0012
Member
Thats the exact problem most people have with fastpass. Both lines are significantly longer then they would be if there was no fast pass at all. If fast pass was done away with then all lines would be shorter (yes, even for no fast pass rides, because instead of people being there they'll be in the E ticket line)
Damien666
New Member
Let's see, for me it has helped save time for a good amount of attractions such as Peter Pan and Winnie The Pooh.
However some attractions I found out Fastpass doesn't save time for me then another method. I found out that Test Track's single rider line moves faster the the Fastpass line itself.
I will say though that Fastpass does put a dent in the standby line since in order to put the Fastpass line in, the CM has to stop the standby line. A lot of times I've seen the CM's let more Fastpassers in then standby. Thus it slows down the standby line.
I have heard from a few people about Fastpass in Disneyland Paris. One good example is POTC. In the beginning POTC did not have Fastpass, so it did not have much of a line at all due to the capacity. However once they added Fastpass, a line "magically" appered! People just got Fastpass since it had it and that formed the backing up of the standby line.
However some attractions I found out Fastpass doesn't save time for me then another method. I found out that Test Track's single rider line moves faster the the Fastpass line itself.
I will say though that Fastpass does put a dent in the standby line since in order to put the Fastpass line in, the CM has to stop the standby line. A lot of times I've seen the CM's let more Fastpassers in then standby. Thus it slows down the standby line.
I have heard from a few people about Fastpass in Disneyland Paris. One good example is POTC. In the beginning POTC did not have Fastpass, so it did not have much of a line at all due to the capacity. However once they added Fastpass, a line "magically" appered! People just got Fastpass since it had it and that formed the backing up of the standby line.
amykissangel
Member
So as I read some of the above posts, I'm wondering if anyone else is feeling the way I do:
If you don't like standing in a long line and watching FastPass holders go ahead of you, then wouldn't it ecomonically make sense to procure your very own fast pass?
If I choose a StandBy line because the FastPasses are out for the day, why should I be angry at those who got to the ride early enough to get FastPasses to come back at this time?
Why should I be angry at Disney who has tried to make ride times much shorter for everyone, especially families with small children, the elderly, etc?
Yes, if there were no FastPasses, as in days of yore, I would wait for 60 min. to ride Splash Mountain. Everyone else would wait 60 min. as well, and no one would be sliding ahead of me in line.
But that's still 60 min. of my life waiting in a line! Why oh why, if I could get a FastPass (barring restaurant reservations, illness, show times, or any other reason people don't choose to get one), why wouldn't I? When I could grab lunch, go see a less popular ride, then come back and my total time of line/riding the ride would be 15-20 min. total?
Just confuses me, that's all...
If you don't like standing in a long line and watching FastPass holders go ahead of you, then wouldn't it ecomonically make sense to procure your very own fast pass?
If I choose a StandBy line because the FastPasses are out for the day, why should I be angry at those who got to the ride early enough to get FastPasses to come back at this time?
Why should I be angry at Disney who has tried to make ride times much shorter for everyone, especially families with small children, the elderly, etc?
Yes, if there were no FastPasses, as in days of yore, I would wait for 60 min. to ride Splash Mountain. Everyone else would wait 60 min. as well, and no one would be sliding ahead of me in line.
But that's still 60 min. of my life waiting in a line! Why oh why, if I could get a FastPass (barring restaurant reservations, illness, show times, or any other reason people don't choose to get one), why wouldn't I? When I could grab lunch, go see a less popular ride, then come back and my total time of line/riding the ride would be 15-20 min. total?
Just confuses me, that's all...