FastPass+ open to all guests including offsite beginning next week at Disney's Animal Kingdom

Recon443

Active Member
This ought to be good.....forgive him lord...he does not know who he has messed with. Mods.....be aware be very aware!....LMAO
Hilarious. And what I have said that is an attack? Seems to me that another poster, one who has over 14k posts can call a person stupid and get away with it. But that is ok, because?
 

Recon443

Active Member
Site more than one instance? Um, I just told you that it is happening to MORE THAN ONE GUEST and has been going on for MORE THAN SEVERAL MONTHS... THAT IS A FAILURE... Happened to SEVERAL people I know (friends and family)... Happened to people right here on this forum.. Happened to people on other forums...

I'm still waiting for your data that proves this has been a success... I won't hold my breath for your proof though cause YOU DON"T HAVE ANY... Can't prove something is a success when it has been a disaster from the start...

And Universal isn't paying me a dime... They don't have too... Universal can just sit back and watch as WDW crumbles due to incompetence...
Crumbles? Hardly. Melodrama thou hast a name.

As I stated, my data is my experience with the system. It worked. Which is contrary to what is being said here. You can't prove it has been a disaster either, you can only prove it has had glitches. A complete disaster? You most certainly can not prove that.
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Crumbles? Hardly. Melodrama that hast a name.

As I stated, my data is my experience with the system. It worked. Which is contrary to what is being said here. You can't prove it has been a disaster either, you can only prove it has had glitches. A complete disaster? You most certainly can not prove that.
Just as you, in the majority of your posts, cannot prove it has been an overwhelming success....
 

Captain Chaos

Well-Known Member
Crumbles? Hardly. Melodrama that hast a name.

As I stated, my data is my experience with the system. It worked. Which is contrary to what is being said here. You can't prove it has been a disaster either, you can only prove it has had glitches. A complete disaster? You most certainly can not prove that.
Proof is in the fact that queue lines (for standby AND fastpass) has increased... proof is complaints to Guest Relations have increased... On any given day, the lines to Guest Services are out the door... Proof is the many people who are posting on here and elsewhere who are having nothing but trouble and issues with this system... proof is talking to Guest Relations CMs when they are off the clock to hear the horror stories... There is proof all around you to show how much of a failure this has been... Not our fault you choose to ignore it...

And you STILL haven't provided any facts to prove the system isn't a failure... I'm waiting... Still waiting... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
But you can only site one at a

As opposed to being against it without having used it, which of course makes me more credible. Weird.

Ah yes the eventual "you haven't posted enough" strawman. What is the number, as determined by you, of postings one needs to have an opinion?

You have already admitted that since you used it there have been fundamental changes to the system as the result of "lessons learned" (hows that for a non contentious definition) so your experience is now as valid as mine. Surely?

As for your post count it has no bearing on your opinion, even when that opinion is wrong, but it does tend to make suspect a third rate trolling attempt or s previously stated a half baked attempt at media management. Though to be fare I think both are beyond you.
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Proof is in the fact that queue lines (for standby AND fastpass) has increased... proof is complaints to Guest Relations have increased... On any given day, the lines to Guest Services are out the door... Proof is the many people who are posting on here and elsewhere who are having nothing but trouble and issues with this system... proof is talking to Guest Relations CMs when they are off the clock to hear the horror stories... There is proof all around you to show how much of a failure this has been... Not our fault you choose to ignore it...

And you STILL haven't provided any facts to prove the system isn't a failure... I'm waiting... Still waiting... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
If you'd like some antecdotal evidence, both times we visited GR (at two different parks) the managers we spoke with assured us that extra CMs were being brought in both at the gates and Guest Relations to address an expected increase in both visitors and situations expected to arise.
 

Captain Chaos

Well-Known Member
If you'd like some antecdotal evidence, both times we visited GR (at two different parks) the managers we spoke with assured us that extra CMs were being brought in both at the gates and Guest Relations to address an expected increase in both visitors and situations expected to arise.
That is proof this system is working!!!! More CMs to help with an increase of disgruntled guests and issues with a system that is working perfectly... Yep, proof of success..

As a side note: on another site I am on, one of the park CMs has stated he dreads going into work the next few weeks because the testing being done at DAK will be a disaster, larger than the disasters we have already seen... I wish my friend still worked in DAK... I'd love for her opinion, but she transferred out a while ago... Oh well..
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
So in the mean time just keep handing over the cash for something that isnt working and its just tough if you cant do what was promised.


I suspect fhanny bhoys will find an excuse for anything from their beloved corporate monster, that they would be frothing at the gash about if similar were offered by a local consumer outlet.


(Agent Iger) Welcome Back Mr Nakasak we have missed you...
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
....I would have LOVED to have my 3 FP+ reservations all bunched close together!! All mine were spread across the bulk of the day ....in essence ...locking me in there for about 8 to 10 hours!! (PS: I didn't stay)

Good for you - Next time wear a UNI shirt (buy on eBay) to really upset the disney research people.
 

Recon443

Active Member
Proof is in the fact that queue lines (for standby AND fastpass) has increased... proof is complaints to Guest Relations have increased... On any given day, the lines to Guest Services are out the door... Proof is the many people who are posting on here and elsewhere who are having nothing but trouble and issues with this system... proof is talking to Guest Relations CMs when they are off the clock to hear the horror stories... There is proof all around you to show how much of a failure this has been... Not our fault you choose to ignore it...

And you STILL haven't provided any facts to prove the system isn't a failure... I'm waiting... Still waiting... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Well let's take a look at your evidence shall we?

What is the number of MB complaints over time?

What was the number of people in the customer service line pre MB and post MB?

How many CM's have you talked to? Total number versus the number who work in the park and have to deal with MB's?

You provided five 'failures' as evidence. You did not note if they all occurred on the same day, at the same park, or if the park was busy or not. So without that knowledge......

Assuming we are at MK....
Average daily attendance: 47K
Percentage using FP+: Using 30% (A low estimate) and assuming they are all resort guests as the bands are not available to off property guests.
Number of guests using MB/FP+: 14,100
Number of problems you reported: 5
Percentage of problems against attendance: 0.035%

Failure? Disaster? Hardly.

Still waiting for disaster proof.......still waiting......
 
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Recon443

Active Member
Just as you, in the majority of your posts, cannot prove it has been an overwhelming success....
I don't claim that it is an overwhelming success, because I admit that I do not have the data to prove it. I simply said it worked for me, which is obviously verboten.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
I find it hilarious that all these folks are declaring it a failure, yet the Disney folks keep expanding its use. So one of the two groups is delusional. Considering Disney has the analytics to gauge 'failure' better than any one who posts 'it seems like' or who hasn't used it, I am thinking Disney knows the real story.

except almost every single company will lie if a big investment as disney's fails.
they do not want to hurt the investor's thrust.
its a matter of ego and credibility.

Don't be daft... the tests have failed left and right... Why did this balloon from 1 billion to over 2 billion, cause it was a major success so they had to keep tossing money at it to fix nonexistent problems? Ok... live in your delusional fantasy world... Fact is, this has not been a success... this has been a mess on all fronts... Problems: 1) Disney management is ego driven, so instead of making decisions with common sense, they let their egos get in the way... usually that leads to disaster, which we are seeing playing out... 2) it is too late to go back now... Once systems are implemented, cutting your losses and reverting back to the old way is just not a reality... 3) wifi sucks on property... 4) the huge lines at Guest Services proves there are plenty of people who continue to have major issues with this crap... Friend of mine just got back and declared she is never going again... I venture to say there are many many many people out there saying the same thing... WDW will lose business cause of this disaster...

You have 1 chance to impress people... Disney blew it... There is nothing impressive about this system, not when you have to spend an hour on line for Guest Services cause your band failed or your FP wasn't registering or any other slew of issues which are coming up during this pathetic roll out...

I almost wonder if the person is a CM Administrator or some mid ranking Disney employee.
He as not many posts and he seemed to just register to post in this thread.

No anger at all, contempt perhaps. The only point proven is that you are yet another silly wee Fhan Bhoy whos loyalty to a brand makes rational evaluation of current difficulties with the Plus system impossible.

And you are of course welcome.

I find weird this person inmediately says "you do not know
Again your lack of self awareness is not a failing that can be placed at my door.

But perhaps you can post the empirical data that underpins your belief that all things are well with Magic Plus, or am I to take it your evidence is entirely subjective, you know like the subjective information you are keen to dismiss when it highlights the less than text book performance of the program.

Im only here to annoy you. and succeeding apparently

hah! XD

At this point, I have only one piece of empirical data more than you that it is successful, I have used it. Something that it appears you have not.

I am happy that your goal is to be annoying, I personally would try to be something else, but to each their own.


dude, your "Im always right you're wrong because I say so" is pretty annoying at this point.
 

Recon443

Active Member
except almost every single company will lie if a big investment as disney's fails.
they do not want to hurt the investor's thrust.
its a matter of ego and credibility.



I almost wonder if the person is a CM Administrator or some mid ranking Disney employee.
He as not many posts and he seemed to just register to post in this thread.



I find weird this person inmediately says "you do not know


hah! XD




dude, your "Im always right you're wrong because I say so" is pretty annoying at this point.
Dude. And mine is different from Pumbas, how?
 

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