FastPass+ open to all guests at Disney's Hollywood Studios and Epcot next week

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
[quotis the "Rob562, post: 5898844, member: 13585"]Maybe they're redoing the sign to say "FastPass+" (and hopefully removing the old remnant of where the sign also used to say "Single Rider" that my eye tends to focus on every time I walk by there)

-Rob

We are heading to HS in a few minutes. When was that pic taken? I will take a picture if anything is changed. As a side note, we checked in yesterday morning and attempted to book TSMM for FP+ around 11 am and they were gone for the day. The concierge I was with said they were gone pretty early yesterday. Were they normally gone by 11 am with legacy FP?

Parks were not too crowded so I dont think it was from MLK weekend being busy. Tons of people checking out as we checked in. Here is what EPCOT looked like around 3 pm. This was at Rose and Crown looking toward Canada pavilion.
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To be fair though, over by Norway it was a little more busy. Mainly Frozen M&G. That sucker is packing em in. The CM was telling people trying to get in line that it was around an hour wait, just so they knew.
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MissM

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But I don't see how a wristband makes checking for AP parking any easier? Unless they plan on using RFID at range? Visually the AP cards need to be easier to check than bands...

Unless Disney switches the design and forces trade-ins... or they do RFID at range.. I'm not seeing why they would to force people to trade in APs again.

Ok, I remember them saying they were going to offer the bands to the APs (due to the different replacement fees).. but I'm wondering what value they are actually going to give to an AP user.

APs are going to be quite different..
- you don't have a hotel charge account to link.. so Disney would have to offer direct CC billing
- no hotel key card obviously
- Disney has a history of forcing card/ID checks for discounts.. so unless they start offering discounts based on the band alone...
- tracking of course.. but that doesn't really add value for the AP holder themselves yet

Lots of potential uses for APs... but where the program is it seems rather non-useful for APs IMO.
YES! Besides the fact that I personally detest the "Lo Jack" nature of the bands, I've been saying since day one how LESS useful a band is for a FL resident AP than a card because of all of these reasons.
- You drove to the park, so needed your wallet/license already
- To get AP discount, you need to show ID and pass
- AP not linked to a resort stay and thus not a credit card

In short, you needed your wallet/ID and credit card(s) anyway, so one of the RFID tickets is flat and fits nicely in with those other items. Whereas a band means you tap to enter....then drag out your wallet anyway!

I don't want the band. All I'm looking for is for them to allow access to FP+ advance reservation and at least right now, Disney has linked those two things. I completely understand that the band is just a different physical access media that unto itself offers no other privileges
I'm with you. I DO NOT WANT a band. I too simply want the functionality of booking a FP in advance afforded to those who have access to bands. We're planning on heading over Saturday. It would be nice if I could put in a reservation NOW instead of waiting until I get there and fighting for workable times for what we'd like to do from whatever happens to be available after it's been picked through. (Especially since, AS ALWAYS, we will likely be in multiple parks on the day. So by the time I get to MK for example, it will likely be the evening and then I'm really out of prime options.) Plus, I MUCH rather do it from home on my pc or cell than stand around in the park waiting in line to use their iPad. o_O I've got the technology myself. Let me use it! :mad:
 

JimboJones123

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We are heading to HS in a few minutes. When was that pic taken? I will take a picture if anything is changed. As a side note, we checked in yesterday morning and attempted to book TSMM for FP+ around 11 am and they were gone for the day. The concierge I was with said they were gone pretty early yesterday. Were they normally gone by 11 am with legacy FP?

Parks were not too crowded so I dont think it was from MLK weekend being busy. Tons of people checking out as we checked in. Here is what EPCOT looked like around 3 pm. This was at Rose and Crown looking toward Canada pavilion.

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To be fair though, over by Norway it was a little more busy. Mainly Frozen M&G. That sucker is packing em in. The CM was telling people trying to get in line that it was around an hour wait, just so they knew.
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I was able to get a 9:55 by walking up at 9:43.
 

JimboJones123

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I only wanted a FP for TS. I just checked to maybe book an additional FP and the CM already gave me two additional FPs without my permission.

That kinda ticks me off. Wasting FPs for ToT and Star Tours for no reason???

Seems off???

Wonder if they are under orders to pad numbers and book FPs that won't be used for numbers manipulation purposes?

Strange things at WDW these days. Almost as if they are trying to make it look like stand by lines are moving faster now that FP+ is in play.
 

JimboJones123

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YES! Besides the fact that I personally detest the "Lo Jack" nature of the bands, I've been saying since day one how LESS useful a band is for a FL resident AP than a card because of all of these reasons.
- You drove to the park, so needed your wallet/license already
- To get AP discount, you need to show ID and pass
- AP not linked to a resort stay and thus not a credit card

In short, you needed your wallet/ID and credit card(s) anyway, so one of the RFID tickets is flat and fits nicely in with those other items. Whereas a band means you tap to enter....then drag out your wallet anyway!


I'm with you. I DO NOT WANT a band. I too simply want the functionality of booking a FP in advance afforded to those who have access to bands. We're planning on heading over Saturday. It would be nice if I could put in a reservation NOW instead of waiting until I get there and fighting for workable times for what we'd like to do from whatever happens to be available after it's been picked through. (Especially since, AS ALWAYS, we will likely be in multiple parks on the day. So by the time I get to MK for example, it will likely be the evening and then I'm really out of prime options.) Plus, I MUCH rather do it from home on my pc or cell than stand around in the park waiting in line to use their iPad. o_O I've got the technology myself. Let me use it! :mad:
Do not forget that replacement bands are $50.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
I'm with you. I DO NOT WANT a band. I too simply want the functionality of booking a FP in advance afforded to those who have access to bands. We're planning on heading over Saturday. It would be nice if I could put in a reservation NOW instead of waiting until I get there and fighting for workable times for what we'd like to do from whatever happens to be available after it's been picked through. :mad:

See my above post regarding TSMM FP+ gone for the day by 11 am. Is this what it will be like for Fla residents who arrive and can only use day of FP+? Soarin was gone as well. TT had a return time of around 8-9m if I recall correctly. And I will gladly confirm what others have said about the bands forcing you to bend your wrist in akward position to open your room door. The door frame is so close to the scanner that it makes you have to turn your wrist in uncomfortable way. Try making your fingers touch the bottom of your wrist and turn your hand downward, Thats what you have to do. Not the most painfull thing ever, but more so than just tapping a card. Heres a pic,
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Tom Morrow

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DHS current wait times:

Coaster: 30
Coaster single rider: "0"
Toy Story: 60
Tower: 100? something must be wrong here
Star Tours: 30
GMR: 5

Don't know how the crowds are, but yesterday was fairly busy. Funny how each park has seen a significant drop in wait times on the very first day of legacy shutdown. Wait no, it's what I said all along, reduce the number of Fastpasses given out, and the standby wait times will also decrease.

Also its possible that Star Tours is seeing more ridership due to FP+ which is good and helps evenly distribute the crowd demand.
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
I only wanted a FP for TS. I just checked to maybe book an additional FP and the CM already gave me two additional FPs without my permission.

That kinda ticks me off. Wasting FPs for ToT and Star Tours for no reason???
Because right now, the system automatically assigns you three Fastpass selections, even if you only pick one. This will be changing sometime in the near future.
 

donsullivan

Premium Member
YES! Besides the fact that I personally detest the "Lo Jack" nature of the bands, I've been saying since day one how LESS useful a band is for a FL resident AP than a card because of all of these reasons.
- You drove to the park, so needed your wallet/license already
- To get AP discount, you need to show ID and pass
- AP not linked to a resort stay and thus not a credit card

In short, you needed your wallet/ID and credit card(s) anyway, so one of the RFID tickets is flat and fits nicely in with those other items. Whereas a band means you tap to enter....then drag out your wallet anyway!


I'm with you. I DO NOT WANT a band. I too simply want the functionality of booking a FP in advance afforded to those who have access to bands. We're planning on heading over Saturday. It would be nice if I could put in a reservation NOW instead of waiting until I get there and fighting for workable times for what we'd like to do from whatever happens to be available after it's been picked through. (Especially since, AS ALWAYS, we will likely be in multiple parks on the day. So by the time I get to MK for example, it will likely be the evening and then I'm really out of prime options.) Plus, I MUCH rather do it from home on my pc or cell than stand around in the park waiting in line to use their iPad. o_O I've got the technology myself. Let me use it! :mad:

I just wanted access to the privileges that are only activated on your profile once a band has been issued on your account and that only happens if you have a resort stay. My reason for not wanting the band is probably different than others. I personally know that I'm absent-minded enough that I'll forget the band on a regular basis when I go to the parks. I fully expect that if that's all I had, I'd regularly get all the way to the entry gates at MK and realize I'd left my band in the car, or at home. My AP card is always in my wallet and does not require me to remember to grab anything since as long as I have my wallet, I have my AP. I'm completely okay with having to pull out my wallet for entry and validation for FP+ at attractions.

After being told on a phone call with Guest Relations on Sunday that Passholder access to the full program could be up to another 6 months, I finally conceded defeat in this battle. I booked a room at Pop Century for friday night using the current winter Passholder special rates. As soon as I completed that reservation and payment, I now have full access to FastPass+ reservations with all of the constraints that other Passholder's have described following a resort stay. I am now able to make FP+ reservations on all devices (computer, iPad, iPhone) for up to 7 individual days over the 60 days following Friday.
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
I just wanted access to the privileges that are only activated on your profile once a band has been issued on your account and that only happens if you have a resort stay. My reason for not wanting the band is probably different than others. I personally know that I'm absent-minded enough that I'll forget the band on a regular basis when I go to the parks. I fully expect that if that's all I had, I'd regularly get all the way to the entry gates at MK and realize I'd left my band in the car, or at home. My AP card is always in my wallet and does not require me to remember to grab anything since as long as I have my wallet, I have my AP. I'm completely okay with having to pull out my wallet for entry and validation for FP+ at attractions.

After being told on a phone call with Guest Relations on Sunday that Passholder access to the full program could be up to another 6 months, I finally conceded defeat in this battle. I booked a room at Pop Century for friday night using the current winter Passholder special rates. As soon as I completed that reservation and payment, I now have full access to FastPass+ reservations with all of the constraints that other Passholder's have described following a resort stay. I am now able to make FP+ reservations on all devices (computer, iPad, iPhone) for up to 7 individual days over the 60 days following Friday.
I'm just curious, because I dropped my AP last year, but what aspects of the program are Passholders unable to access?
 

wdwmagic

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I'm just curious, because I dropped my AP last year, but what aspects of the program are Passholders unable to access?
Passholders who have not stayed at a WDW resort do not have access to advance FP+ - only same day FP+ at the kiosks.
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
That's....unfortunate.
Why? How come annual passholders haven't been complaining all along that they are also not entitled to Extra Magic Hours? Heaven forbid Disney resort guests get some perks out of their very inflated room rates...

And before someone replies "they are going to take up all the Fastpasses and there won't be any left for me!" - They only reserve some Fastpass inventory for advanced reservations. During "testing", even with a reduced number of Fastpass+ available for day guests than would be available once legacy was gone, day guests have about the same success rate of getting the high demand attractions as they did before with legacy Fastpass, sometimes even better , like scoring Toy Story Mania after noon, and getting high demand ride windows within 30 minutes.
 

donsullivan

Premium Member
That's....unfortunate.

Indeed it is. Every Guest Relations resource you find (in park or on the phone in response to emails) has now been coached well to refuse to answer any questions at all on the topic. They will not describe what (if any) access Passholders will have when the program is deployed for them, nor will they give you any timeline other than the up to 6 months from now statement they gave me on Sunday. The website still has the same 'later this year' language they posted in April, 2013 and have never updated. I've had CM's tell me that they've seen the materials for it and seen internal communications that it's 'coming soon' but they've been using that language for close to a year now so I don't believe any of it any longer.

I've started referring to it as the Passholder tax where the only way for a Passholder to get admission to the full program is to pay for a resort stay. Disney is refusing to activate access to FP+ reservation on your profile any other way. Now that I've booked my one-night stay for Friday night I have full access to the program starting on that date and looking forward for 60 days from that date.
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Why? How come annual passholders haven't been complaining all along that they are also not entitled to Extra Magic Hours? Heaven forbid Disney resort guests get some perks out of their very inflated room rates...

And before someone replies "they are going to take up all the Fastpasses and there won't be any left for me!" - They only reserve some Fastpass inventory for advanced reservations. During "testing", even with a reduced number of Fastpass+ available for day guests than would be available once legacy was gone, day guests have about the same success rate of getting the high demand attractions as they did before with legacy Fastpass, sometimes even better , like scoring Toy Story Mania after noon, and getting high demand ride windows within 30 minutes.
I'd look at the post above. Better than I could do....
 

JimboJones123

Well-Known Member
Tom Mpretty post: 5899083 said:
DHS current wait times:

Coaster: 30
Coaster single rider: "0"
Toy Story: 60
Tower: 100? something must be wrong here
Star Tours: 30
GMR: 5

Don't know how the crowds are, but yesterday was fairly busy. Funny how each park has seen a significant drop in wait times on the very first day of legacy shutdown. Wait no, it's what I said all along, reduce the number of Fastpasses given out, and the standby wait times will also decrease.

Also its possible that Star Tours is seeing more ridership due to FP+ which is good and helps evenly distribute the crowd demand.
The park was pretty dead when I left around 11.
 

WendyTinkerbell

Active Member
A few Quick Questions:

1. If I have a resort reservation for May, how early can I start booking FP+?

2. If I am an AP holder that has a MB from a previous visit, can I book FP on that MB in advance?

3. I am booked under two reservations for my next visit, which means I have to get two more new wrist bands. Are the FP+ linked to the specific MB, or are they linked to my MBE account? In other words, since theoretically each MB will programmed to open the door at the resort, how do I keep all of these straight?

3a. Can I choose one MB and have it linked to my AP, FP+, Credit Card and both resort reservations for the entire stay?
 

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