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Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Hawg G said:
Your statements are exactly why Disney keeps gouging, and lowering the deliverables.

I can afford it. I'm checking in to Portofino Bay late tonight. But I don't see Disney as a smart place to spend money at this point. Although I'll admit I'm going to Boo Bash. Mostly because ride lines at Disney are a nightmare now, and I only go for a day or two per trip, so I'd be paying well over $100 a day to go anyway.
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Lol…

you voided any point you had…can you guess where?
 
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Hawg G

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Lol…

you voided any point you had…can you guess where?
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No, as I said, I realize it is very expensive. But in reality it is just about $150 more for me and my daughter to go. As I also said before, I'm all for a paid FP system. There is no doubt I will ride a LOT more rides in the 6 hours of Boo Bash than the 11 hours during a normal MK park day. Especially E tickets. We will likely be able to ride Splash 3-4 times in an hour, instead of once. Big Thunder will likely be a near walkon, instead of an hour wait. Same with Dwarves and Space.. Plus even the pared down Halloween is still easily worth $50 of the increased cost over day. So, yeah, I'll pay $50 each for essentially Universal Express at the MK for 4 hours. Money WELL spent.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

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Hawg G said:
No, as I said, I realize it is very expensive. But in reality it is just about $150 more for me and my daughter to go. As I also said before, I'm all for a paid FP system. There is no doubt I will ride a LOT more rides in the 6 hours of Boo Bash than the 11 hours during a normal MK park day. Especially E tickets. We will likely be able to ride Splash 3-4 times in an hour, instead of once. Big Thunder will likely be a near walkon, instead of an hour wait. Same with Dwarves and Space.. Plus even the pared down Halloween is still easily worth $50 of the increased cost over day. So, yeah, I'll pay $50 each for essentially Universal Express at the MK for 4 hours. Money WELL spent.
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I see this all the time…all the reasons why it “makes sense”

but you are paying for the second sale of the day on an abbreviated window into a park whose last major innovative addition was in 1992….old rides…much of the food isn’t even an option.

do it…don’t do it…that’s you’re choice. But it’s hard for you to tirade about ripoffs and standards falling as you - quite literally - are feeding the beast.

selling upsells off their failure to expand with their crowds IS the “beast”
 
Parker in NYC

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I see this all the time…all the reasons why it “makes sense”

but you are paying for the second sale of the day on an abbreviated window into a park whose last major innovative addition was in 1992….old rides…much of the food isn’t even an option.

do it…don’t do it…that’s you’re choice. But it’s hard for you to tirade about ripoffs and standards falling as you - quite literally - are feeding the beast.

selling upsells off their failure to expand with their crowds IS the “beast”
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Boom.
 
flynnibus

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Hawg G said:
There is no doubt I will ride a LOT more rides in the 6 hours of Boo Bash than the 11 hours during a normal MK park day. Especially E tickets. We will likely be able to ride Splash 3-4 times in an hour, instead of once. Big Thunder will likely be a near walkon, instead of an hour wait. Same with Dwarves and Space...
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Might want to tone those expectations some. It's not 6 hours. You'll get a max of 5.5hrs in the park, with 3 or 3.5 being the event. The major rides will all still have day guests on them for the first 20-30mins. You won't get 'stay in place' re-rides unless no one is in line... just snaking through the queue eats up time as well as moving from A to B. Splash is usually an easier one because people fear getting wet. Rides like Space and 7dwarves will have shorter lines, but still have lines. I did 6 different rides in my 3hrs of AH event time (with one food stop, and one watch the dragon go by investment of 15mins). (Splash while waiting for event start, then BTMRR, POTC, HM, PP, 7dwarves, Space.. ).

I totally agree with your mindset, and have done a AH event under the same pretense... if not spending a whole trip there the AH event was a better bang for buck then a day ticket. But I still got caught in 30min wait for space, and 20min wait for Dwarves. 3hrs goes pretty quick when every experience eats up 15-25mins)
 
LittleBuford

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I see this all the time…all the reasons why it “makes sense”

but you are paying for the second sale of the day on an abbreviated window into a park whose last major innovative addition was in 1992….old rides…much of the food isn’t even an option.

do it…don’t do it…that’s you’re choice. But it’s hard for you to tirade about ripoffs and standards falling as you - quite literally - are feeding the beast.

selling upsells off their failure to expand with their crowds IS the “beast”
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Not that I’m attending the event (or even going to WDW anytime soon), but why would the preponderance of “old rides” put anyone off paying to visit the Magic Kingdom? The classic attractions are probably the biggest draw for me.
 
mikejs78

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I would say what they built is fine….

but from a park operations standpoint…it’s a huge mistake. It can be and is both.
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I wouldn't say it's a mistake per se. I would say it's not nearly enough in DHS. DHS needs about another half dozen rides, minimum, and its numerous shows to be reopened and refreshed. TSL in and of itself is great, but it being relied on as a tent pole is a mistake.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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LittleBuford said:
Not that I’m attending the event (or even going to WDW anytime soon), but why would the preponderance of “old rides” put anyone off paying to visit the Magic Kingdom? The classic attractions are probably the biggest draw for me.
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I’m not saying they would. A lot of the appeal is nostalgia…

but just how much cost increases is reasonable for that nostalgia? The amount of money - especially being now sold twice almost daily and the spectre of selling access to the SAME attractions again via micro transactions ….at some point hits critical mass.


mikejs78 said:
I wouldn't say it's a mistake per se. I would say it's not nearly enough in DHS. DHS needs about another half dozen rides, minimum, and its numerous shows to be reopened and refreshed. TSL in and of itself is great, but it being relied on as a tent pole is a mistake.
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Yeah…that’s the mistake.
 
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Hawg G

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I see this all the time…all the reasons why it “makes sense”

but you are paying for the second sale of the day on an abbreviated window into a park whose last major innovative addition was in 1992….old rides…much of the food isn’t even an option.

do it…don’t do it…that’s you’re choice. But it’s hard for you to tirade about ripoffs and standards falling as you - quite literally - are feeding the beast.

selling upsells off their failure to expand with their crowds IS the “beast”
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But, to my daughter, all the rides are new.

Would me and my late wife be paying to go there alone for Boo Bash? No way in hell. Would I pay it just for me for a massive ride-a-thon and ice cream? Perhaps. BUt that would be my only visit there that trip.

WDW is really only worth it with lots of park hopping now. That's why my non expiring tickets are sitting in my safe. Not hopping until 2 makes it a waste to use them.
 
UNCgolf

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mikejs78 said:
I wouldn't say it's a mistake per se. I would say it's not nearly enough in DHS. DHS needs about another half dozen rides, minimum, and its numerous shows to be reopened and refreshed. TSL in and of itself is great, but it being relied on as a tent pole is a mistake.
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While I think TSL is one of the worst things Disney has ever built, that's not really the issue considering plenty of people like it.

The big issue is that they used a pretty large tract of land and only built two attractions. There should be at least three and maybe four on that piece of land. Putting some kind of Hot Wheels car ride that runs underneath Slinky would have been perfect, as other people have mentioned here before. Beyond that, neither of the rides they built are unique or special. Slinky is fun, but you can something very similar at any regional park in the country just without the Slinky Dog ride vehicle.

It's an incredibly inefficient use of that piece of property; there aren't even a bunch of shops/restaurants there. There's a ton of empty space.
 
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