FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

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skypilot2922

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With a retail guy like Chapek at the helm. It's inevitable that FP+ will be an upcharge item as he appears to see the parks as a giant mall and at a mall everything has a price.

Does anyone else here remember when TSMM was 'FP+ only' for a few weeks I thought then that was the orchestra tuning up for charging for FP+
 

MrPromey

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New insider rumors are bouncing around that Disney is ready to offer a package of an all-day version of Express Pass for the whole family for an entire week, but because of the labor shortage, they only require in return your first born.

Quick question:

Why does everybody always want my first born?

I mean, I get that nobody wants the middle child but the third one isn't too shabby.

🤔


Before anyone thinks I hate any of my kids, I just want it to be known that in reality, I only have one.
 
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pdude81

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Quick question:

Why does everybody always want my first born?

I mean, I get that nobody wants the middle child but the third born isn't too shabby.

🤔


Before anyone thinks I hate any of my kids, I just want it to be known that in reality, I only have one.
It seems like you've answered your own question.
 

MrPromey

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It seems like you've answered your own question.

That occurred to me but they could just say "child of your choosing" unless there is a legit fear it will always be the middle child which I guess might be the case assuming a parent has three or more to choose from...
 

skypilot2922

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Quick question:

Why does everybody always want my first born?

I mean, I get that nobody wants the middle child but the third born isn't too shabby.

🤔


Before anyone thinks I hate any of my kids, I just want it to be known that in reality, I only have one.

Because firstborn most valuable, However Disney will do a package deal on middle and last child...
 

pdude81

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That occurred to me but they could just say "child of your choosing" unless there is a legit fear it will always be the middle child which I guess might be the case assuming a parent has three or more to choose from...
I always assumed greedy trolls would want to be paid as soon as possible. Though I guess if the deal were crafted when you already had multiple children, it would be a much darker story.
 

wedenterprises

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I agree for sure. I just heard on the Disney Dish pod that the extra 30 minute entry has meant that FoP now has a 140 minute wait when the park opens for everyone. While we stay on sight, we rarely get to the parks prior to 9:00am due to being out watching fireworks at night.

Along those lines, I wish WDW would open when they say they open. This opening 45 minutes prior to posted time is crazy and frustrating when you take them at their word, show up at 8:40, and find the park's been open for 30 minutes already and the FoP line now stretches to the back of Africa (I'm not still bitter, lol)
WDW created an on-site perk out of thin air and are making off-site pay for it.
 

ppete1975

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Quick question:

Why does everybody always want my first born?

I mean, I get that nobody wants the middle child but the third born isn't too shabby.

🤔


Before anyone thinks I hate any of my kids, I just want it to be known that in reality, I only have one.
i never understood that.. isnt the first born the one you make mistakes with. Kind of the throw away kid? Like a prototype for the real thing in a few years
 

MrPromey

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I agree. I alao feel like disney parks need more rides like this. Rides like tron and rotr likely attract far more people to the park than they actually add in capacity thus the whole park actually is worse off from a crowd and wait time angle. But thats what disney likes those super hyped up marketing machine of a ride types. I mean look at rat legitimately not opening it because marketing. Less woah rides are great filler and i think are vital to a healthy park portfolio.

Problem is, these days, they treat the opening of a "less woah ride" like the second coming of Christ in their marketing anyway and that makes everything worse... but maybe if they were opening more quality stuff more regularly, they woudln't feel the need to do that.

I know I've brought this up many times but that ad spot during the SUPER BOWL for the opening of Toy Story Land with the bouncing ball?

I don't remember a huge ad campaign for Aladdin's Flying Carpets and that at least opened with a water feature to keep you cool in the Florida heat. ;)

If they'd open the lesser stuff and just let it open the way most other places do when they know it's not a headliner, this wouldn't be a problem but they don't and again, in my opinion, it's because the really great additions are so few and far between their marketing team feels it's all they have to work with a lot of the time, now.

Two better quality versions of state fair level rides (I'm counting the launch on sdd and the lack of rust on both as part of that better quality) did not deserve even a billboard on I4 - especially since the anchor of their new land was a decade+ attraction that was already at maximum capacity every day and didn't need the extra attention.

I'm not arguing they shouldn't have been added, in this post, at least* but that their approach and what they did with the rollout was wholly inappropriate.


*Although SDD is still a tough sell to me as is the whole TSL concept in general. That we allegedly got the best version of this crappy land is hardly reason to celebrate.
 
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Jrb1979

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Problem is, these days, they treat the opening of a "less woah ride" like the second coming of Christ in their marketing anyway and that makes the problem worse... but maybe if they were opening more quality stuff more regularly, they woudln't feel the need to do that.

I know I've brought this up many times but that ad spot during the SUPER BOWL for the opening of Toy Story Land with the bouncing ball?

I don't remember a huge ad campaign for the Aladdin's Flying Carpets.

If they'd open the lesser stuff Android just let it open the way most other places do when they know it's not a headliner, this wouldn't be a problem but they don't and again, in my opinion, it's because the really great additions are so few and far between their marketing team feels it's all they have to work with a lot of the time these days.
Maybe they should do like what most parks do and add things to a park every year, even if it's small.
 

skypilot2922

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Problem is, these days, they treat the opening of a "less woah ride" like the second coming of Christ in their marketing anyway and that makes the problem worse... but maybe if they were opening more quality stuff more regularly, they woudln't feel the need to do that.

I know I've brought this up many times but that ad spot during the SUPER BOWL for the opening of Toy Story Land with the bouncing ball?

I don't remember a huge ad campaign for the Aladdin's Flying Carpets.

If they'd open the lesser stuff and just let it open the way most other places do when they know it's not a headliner, this wouldn't be a problem but they don't and again, in my opinion, it's because the really great additions are so few and far between their marketing team feels it's all they have to work with a lot of the time these days.

Toy Story land is fun but it's pretty pathetic from a Imagineering standpoint, Every travelling carnival has something like slinkydog, With just a bit more effort they could have made a 'Hot Wheels' coaster where the exposed track would be part of the theme rather than detracting from the theme, with a Hot Wheels theme they could have done at least one inversion loop it's been a long time since I played with hot wheels even with the kids but a loop was always a feature of any good hot wheels layout. Or you could have done a Lionel Train coaster which has 3 rails but once again the 3 exposed rails are part of the 'real' toy so once again they would not be a jarring element.
 

MrPromey

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Toy Story land is fun but it's pretty pathetic from a Imagineering standpoint, Every travelling carnival has something like slinkydog, With just a bit more effort they could have made a 'Hot Wheels' coaster where the exposed track would be part of the theme rather than detracting from the theme, with a Hot Wheels theme they could have done at least one inversion loop it's been a long time since I played with hot wheels even with the kids but a loop was always a feature of any good hot wheels layout. Or you could have done a Lionel Train coaster which has 3 rails but once again the 3 exposed rails are part of the 'real' toy so once again they would not be a jarring element.

I did a like on this post because I agree with a lot of it but I don't think Disney was looking to add an inversion to what was always intended to be a kiddie coaster in a kiddie land for a park that was too thrill-heavy for a whole family audience.
 
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UNCgolf

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Lol. No it’s not. 5 bus stops in one resort. Anyone can eat at any restaurant so themed dining is not a perk of staying at a hotel.

it was FP, dining plan and EMH.

It depends on the person. I had no interest in the Dining Plan -- not even when it was new, but certainly not now when the food quality has declined precipitously. Giving it to a resort guest for "free" wasn't a perk to me; I'd rather have $50 off the price of my room. FP+ was nice, and EMH were good when they were in the evening, but the transportation and not having to leave the bubble, along with the theming, were the biggest perks.

Back when prices were reasonable, at least.
 
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