FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

[M:SpilotISTC12]

If DVC got some kind of benefits out of this new system, it'd get me to shut up about the issues I have with DVC and how it functions. At least for a bit.

As a resale white card owner, I'm expecting to not get any sort of break on this.

 

[YorkshireT]

For us UK guests that pay thousands in airfares and come for 10+ days, I‘m unfortunately expecting a disaster here. Unless they add it onto UK tickets.

 

[HauntedPirate]

General reminder than Disney has publicly stated multiple times that they are perfectly happy to have fewer guests per day if aggregate guest spending is up. They particularly emphasized this in relation to Disneyland.

And they have yet to put our money where their mouth is and really jack up prices and put action to their words. They prefer the frog-in-a-pot method because they don’t want a public backlash.

 

[Waters Back Side]

Nothing about this is "sudden." This is what MyMagic+ was supposed to be able to do six years ago.

My Magic was never intended to force people into paying per ride lol. Sorry. Never once.

And if no packages of rides are offered starting 10/1 and through the holiday season it will be chaotic. It almost does not seem realistic. If paying to skip lines is a given at this point they have to allow people who plan in advance to pay for a package of rides/experiences. I do not even see how its possible they do not. Especially for resort guests. Most people on those weeks are not day goers who live in a suburb or Orlando.

 

[Roy G. Dis]

Markets are closed. It is time.

 

[jpinkc]

Risky move to deploy this so suddenly. The ideal time would have been immediately after the shutdown. It served as a clean starting point and at least changes could have been easier to implement.

But I guess trial by fire for the busy 50th anniversary year.

I think this is part of the Motivation to do it now. They know they had record years for Disneyland 50th and are looking to shatter earnings with the WDW 50th, so many people want to go for the 50th. I understand making a profit but this is just PURE GREED! If this goes as badly as people are hinting. Figure if 50th celebration is 18 months of this its a bloodbath for us.

 

[DisneyDodo]

Risky move to deploy this so suddenly. The ideal time would have been immediately after the shutdown. It served as a clean starting point and at least changes could have been easier to implement.

But I guess trial by fire for the busy 50th anniversary year.

They used the pandemic as an excuse to remove FP+, which they knew they wanted to do away with, without taking a huge PR hit ("it's for guest safety!"). By waiting over a year to introduce the replacement, they can now market this as a brand new premium service, as opposed to them requiring guests to pay for something that they were already getting for free.

 

[NoOtherOptions]

I think this is part of the Motivation to do it now. They know they had record years for Disneyland 50th and are looking to shatter earnings with the WDW 50th, so many people want to go for the 50th. I understand making a profit but this is just PURE GREED! If this goes as badly as people are hinting. Figure if 50th celebration is 18 months of this its a bloodbath for us.

Let's be realistic, the mouse has always been about profit. They've just been better at hiding it.

 

[CastAStone]

And they have yet to put our money where their mouth is and really jack up prices and put action to their words. They prefer the frog-in-a-pot method because they don’t want a public backlash.

Well yeah, you want to lose some of your customers, but not all of them

 

[UNCgolf]

This could actually end up being a good thing for me, because I don't really care if I ride many of the headline attractions. I might be able to pay to immediately get on the handful of rides I actually want to do without having to wait in a long line, and then can spend the rest of my time doing my other favorite attractions that hardly ever have long lines, or even lines at all -- Carousel of Progress -- and just wandering around.

That doesn't mean I think it's a good system or that I'm happy about it, though. It sounds like it will be terrible for your average family.

 

[jpinkc]

I dont think we can make a BIG enough stink thru Social Media or anything if this goes as badly as it sounds. I dont do Social Media but I would sign up to vent my displeasure if this goes as badly as people are hinting.

 

[M:SpilotISTC12]

Welp this is underwhelming

 

[HauntedPirate]

Well yeah, you want to lose some of your customers, but not all of them

Double ticket prices and food prices and let’s see what happens. It would be a grand experiment and quite entertaining, for sure.

 

[NoOtherOptions]

This could actually end up being a good thing for me, because I don't really care if I ride many of the headline attractions. I might be able to pay to immediately get on the handful of rides I actually want to do without having to wait in a long line, and then can spend the rest of my time doing my other favorite attractions that hardly ever have long lines, or even lines at all -- Carousel of Progress -- and just wandering around.

That doesn't mean I think it's a good system or that I'm happy about it, though. It sounds like it will be terrible for your average family.

I think you might be off base, people who bought Genie passes are going to crowd all those rides you enjoy because they either A: bought their way through the rest of Genie pass rides or B: can't afford them/passes are gone/pick a reason.

 

[Waters Back Side]

Welp this is underwhelming

Nothing is official yet.

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

Welp this is underwhelming

Right? Suddenly it seemed like the announcement was coming TODAY and now its looking like tomorrow or Friday.

 

[nickys]

There's no reason for them to do buckets when they'll sell ala carte at the same rate.

Shanghai use the same system as DLP but with groups of FPs as well as individual ones.

 

[wdwmagic]

Right? Suddenly it seemed like the announcement was coming TODAY and now its looking like tomorrow or Friday.

The day isn't over.
But plans change all the time. I've been aware of several major announcements being canned/delayed just minutes before it was about to happen.

 

[ajfreeman6361]

Blog Mickey on Twitter just retweeted their article they posted from the 12th on Disney Genie, maybe prepping people for a new post?

 

[UNCgolf]

I think you might be off base, people who bought Genie passes are going to crowd all those rides you enjoy because they either A: bought their way through the rest of Genie pass rides or B: can't afford them/passes are gone/pick a reason.

That will absolutely be a serious issue on the busier days (which is most of the year at this point). I don't think it will be a huge concern when I typically go, though.

Regardless, what's been hinted at is still a terrible system.