FantasiaMickey2000
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210 minutes now. But fastpass+ haters told me that the 15 minutes I spent in line for it with a fastpass was lost elsewhere. Lmao get real. What a disaster. Disney doesn’t care. They’re getting money.
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FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was
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pdude81
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I think in this Twitter/Tiktok "check out this Disney hack" world, you'll see groups of 25 people as friends on MDE doing ride meetups and Venmoing each other money to save a few bucks here and there.
Not unlike groups of people that still share all their info in Memory Maker with complete strangers. I just think it's too much work for them to keep straight and not worth it to them. If not enough people buy the fastpasses, they can lower by a few dollars overall. Now I get where you're coming from and it makes sense to offer a group discount... I just don't think they will.
Jedijax719
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I think that FP haters would say that 210 minutes is better than 250 minutes.
Seriously, though, I think the argument against having FP has gone by the wayside now. Now, it's a question of how a new system will be implemented and, if there IS a cost, how much it will be. The "why" has been answered. Now it's a matter of "when" and "how".
kong1802
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Do we know if all the theaters are running?
Im surprised it’s that long without FP honestly.
cranbiz
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You weren't wearing a red dress and going back to AKL, were you?
That was an interesting night on my bus.
UNCgolf
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Don't forgot there are a lot of things still closed or not happening that would normally draw some people elsewhere. Less at Animal Kingdom than other parks, though, I think.
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kong1802
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No meet and greets, no Nemo, rip primeval whirl, no streetsmosphere
CuteAsMinnie
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Finally THIS!
Dining locations, shops, shows, parades closed/missing and are all part of the line management system!! If everything would only open already!! Crowds have no place to go except standing in line!
Jedijax719
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Well we are honestly getting to the point at which almost everything should be open and the rest open in a few months (unless the delta variant goes haywire).
kong1802
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Forgot about the lack of character meals. That has to impact things as well.
Waters Back Side
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I think the only thing closed at AK is the Nemo show still. I know the Boneyard is closed. But most restaurants are open Tusker House, Yak and Yeti, Tiffins etc. . The Mickey and Minnie Adventures Outpost meet is closed. I see no excuse as to why FOP line is this long when talking about the difference of FP vs no FP.
mikejs78
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That's not accurate.
Disney Glimpses
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I love how we're arguing that standby is worse with FP whilst Under The Sea currently sits at 50 minutes. 
Flight of Passage is 3 hours!
It's not as simple as "they stop the standby queue from moving so it must be worse"
There are two reasons it's not:
1 - Natural limits of how long people are willing to wait for an attraction do not change with or with FP
2 - There is a psychology behind knowing you can get a FP for basically any D or C ticket attraction throughout the day that lets people avoid standby queues altogether until one opens up. A security blanket so to speak.
Are there some cases where it's actually worse? Sure, but overall on an average day, the standby wait times are within 10% of each other in both directions.
I am a wait time hawk. They are basically the same.
Flight of Passage is 3 hours!
It's not as simple as "they stop the standby queue from moving so it must be worse"
There are two reasons it's not:
1 - Natural limits of how long people are willing to wait for an attraction do not change with or with FP
2 - There is a psychology behind knowing you can get a FP for basically any D or C ticket attraction throughout the day that lets people avoid standby queues altogether until one opens up. A security blanket so to speak.
Are there some cases where it's actually worse? Sure, but overall on an average day, the standby wait times are within 10% of each other in both directions.
I am a wait time hawk. They are basically the same.
G00fyDad
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It is that long because FP is not around.
Roy G. Dis
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Can this thread get to 2022 pages before 2022?
Disney Glimpses
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According to Thrill Data from yesterday, The average wait time at MK is ~4 minutes lower than 2019. Actually higher now in DHS.
hopemax
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I would caution anyone from using the wait times from this hour, because there is currently a thunderstorm moving through Central Florida.I love how we're arguing that standby is worse with FP whilst Under The Sea currently sits at 50 minutes.
Flight of Passage is 3 hours!
It's not as simple as "they stop the standby queue from moving so it must be worse"
The list of attractions closed: Astro Orbiter, Barnstormer, BTMRR, Dumbo, Everest, Gorilla Falls Trail, Imagination, Jungle Cruise, Kali, Liberty Belle, Aladdin Carpets, Maharajah Jungle Trek, Mine Train, Slinky, Splash, the Treehouse, Test Track, TL Speedway, Triceratops Spin
What the heck do people think happens with indoor ride queues when it rains.
Disney Glimpses
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I realize you probably just pulled the app up and saw that but those closures just happened. Those wait times are real and it was like this all morning. It was the same yesterday.
Expect the open attraction wait times to climb even further.
Waters Back Side
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Excellent post!
There really is no arguement at this point. The inability to meet Pocahantos and Scrooge or watch the Nemo stage show has nothing to do with the long lines now. Lol. Lets stop making excuses.
Disney is losing all those merchandise and food sales due to people standing in a 3 hour line for an attraction that has no front of line access.
UNCgolf
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No it's not. It was always that long or longer with FP+ too. Last time I was there it had a 245 minute wait one day (I had a FastPass).
I don't think FP really makes a difference in standby wait times for headliner attractions. There's a limit to how long people are willing to wait for a ride, and the top rides are going to hit that standby wait limit regardless unless the park is empty.
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