FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

[aaronml]

I envision a lot more customer complaints about nothing to get the once pooh-poohed "free fastpass" as compensation.

I’d also expect to see more people getting / using DAS honestly…

 

[pixarprincess]

Tbh I'm considering shortening our trip and only dealing with the stuff we can't get refunds on if they go this route. I was willing to spend quite a bit, club level, boo bash, etc. But this isn't about the price, it's about the absurdity. What is the point of your theme park ticket at all with this approach? You're paying twice for one thing. Disney to me is always, first and foremost, about the rides. If the only way to get on them in our 4-day trip is to pay for each time we want to do so, I might be out.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I mean, this company charges their own hotel guests to park at their own (not inexpensive) hotels. This can't be too much of a surprise.

I mean that's one of the most normal things they do. I stayed in Boston the other night and overnight parking was $40.

 

[marni1971]

I did think @marni1971 said that this was the case unless I misunderstood. One virtual line at a time.
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I’d expect once one standby pass attraction is triggered the others could follow suit soon after. Or during peak times the system will be active across all valid attractions from opening time.

During a press determined quiet time the system may not kick in at all.

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You should be allowed to skip a few lines as a benefit and incentive to buy theme park tickets. EVERYONE should. There are ways they could have made money on FP without this new system.Especially at WDW.

Perhaps in Orlando you will.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I have a bit of a hard time seeing how a change like this could break even - let alone turn a profit. It would require a ton of development and marketing just to get the basics off the ground. I can’t imagine the cost of running this at scale. Disney generally has never been able to pull of a parks IT project that would meet this level of sophistication.

Oh it’s profit…

1. rides are paid for…their labor is cheap.
2. They separate the majority of their customers from their financial common sense the minute they cross a purple gate. That was always the brilliance/essence of the place
3. So they have them trapped and they created a limited commodity over the Bob years…so the response will most often be “how do we get it? Screw the price”

brilliant…and slimey

 

[mightynine]

In many ways, this is a return to the separate admission and attraction tickets Disney sold until they went with an all inclusive ticket when Epcot opened in 1982.

I would be ok with this if a WDW admission ticket was not already the most expensive amusement park ticket on the planet.

Back in the days before the all inclusive ticket, theme park admission was today’s equivalent of about $20. I’d be ok with paying $20 to experience the park without attractions.

The crazy part is charging someone more than $110 to get in, with no assurance that they’ll be able to experience a single attraction!

Everyone will be able to enjoy Journey Of Water!

 

[IanDLBZF]

I mean that's one of the most normal things they do. I stayed in Boston the other night and overnight parking was $40.

Universal and Disneyland charge for Parking at their hotels too, what difference does it make?

 

[monothingie]

I just hope it's worth it. If it has this kind of "surge pricing" scenario, that makes me skeptical - unless admission ticket prices go down. (Ha!)

How does demand pricing work with "UNPRECEDENTED DEMAND"?

It's going to be ugly.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I mean that's one of the most normal things they do. I stayed in Boston the other night and overnight parking was $40.

Not to go off on a crazy tangent, but that's not normal at all, except in very populated areas where parking is at a premium.

Disney hotel parking lots are large and empty. There's no justification.

 

[themarchhare]

Once again begging people who think that this is just paid fastpass to read further on standby lines.

The heavy reactions are based off of the latter; not paid fastpass. Frankly, if they just brought MaxPass here and limited the amount sold per day, I don't think anyone would be mad at all. Hell, I'd be happy.

 

[kevlightyear]

Once a VQ is opened for a 'swamped' attraction, under what circumstances would that VQ be removed later in the day? Is it even possible?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Tbh I'm considering shortening our trip and only dealing with the stuff we can't get refunds on if they go this route. I was willing to spend quite a bit, club level, boo bash, etc. But this isn't about the price, it's about the absurdity. What is the point of your theme park ticket at all with this approach? You're paying twice for one thing. Disney to me is always, first and foremost, about the rides. If the only way to get on them in our 4-day trip is to pay for each time we want to do so, I might be out.

Nothing happened yet, unless you're going to Paris.

 

[themarchhare]

Not to go off on a crazy tangent, but that's not normal at all, except in very populated areas where parking is at a premium.

Disney hotel parking lots are large and empty. There's no justification.

Many hotels in Orlando do too. In fact, I'm fairly certain Universal charged for hotel guest parking before Disney did.

 

[CastAStone]

This is stating that they can close off the standby queue at will. That's literally what they're doing.

They can do that now also? Go take a VIP tour if you want to ride!
They won’t because it would be immolation.

everybody always thinks Disney is going to do the evilest $&/&, I don’t get it. They’re money hungry, not stupid

 

[monothingie]

I’d expect once one standby pass attraction is triggered the others could follow suit soon after. Or during peak times the system will be active across all valid attractions from opening time.

Honest question, when is off-peak time?

 

[marni1971]

Honest question, when is off-peak time?

The park reservation system can answer that one.

 

[monothingie]

Not to go off on a crazy tangent, but that's not normal at all, except in very populated areas where parking is at a premium.

Disney hotel parking lots are large and empty. There's no justification.

Most hotels have a resort fee, which goes to cover parking expense. They don't necessarily specify a parking fee.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Honest question, when is off-peak time?

January 13th, 9AM to 10AM.

 

[monothingie]

The park reservation system can answer that one.

So open to close.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The park reservation system can answer that one.

Why would anybody bother using the park reservation system if they're traveling outside of PEAK PEAK "the parks will reach phased closing" time?

If the parks aren't going to sell out and there's no book-ahead FastPass, I'm not committing to a particular park until I wake up that morning. COVID made Park Pass necessary because the parks genuinely were filling to capacity every day. Without that threat, and absent FP+, there is neither carrot nor stick to get people to pre-book their parks.