FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

[Disstevefan1]

I think it was Miller Lite. I can't remember why I walked into the kitchen but I remember beer commercials from the 70s like they were yesterday

You're right. I removed all of my posts that have help further that useless discussion. But feel free to keep arguing amongst yourselves. It reminds me of the Budweiser commercial "Tastes great!" "Less filling!"

The amusement of watching two groups with polar opposite viewpoints arguing their case with the same exact points only worded differently each time has somewhat faded. But carry on.

I'm just sitting here waiting to see if anyone actually has any news/comments to post about fastpass returning.

I have a feeling the new fastpass system in WDW will leave a bad taste in my mouth and I will never be able to get my fill of attractions on any given day

 

[Jeff4272]

Sorry, but it's 100% the exact opposite. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. You have once again been duped by the time that you think you have saved in random attractions. You did save time on whatever attractions you had a FP assigned to you, but if you want to see anything else you will quickly lose that saved time because of others that have FP and making you stand in that dreaded standby line. Without FP you would have used the same amount of time to see more because you didn't have to deal with the road block on the standby line caused by the multi car wreak that is the Fastpass line.

I disagree 100%.........If you get 3 FP+ for the 3 most popular, long wait rides, with all over 60 minute waits, you will save 3 hours in waiting in those lines..........there's no way in hell i am losing those 3 hours waiting in line at Buzz Lightyear, Pirates, BTM, etc. by those standby lines being longer because of FP..........And don't forget, that doesn't even include the fact that I would get additional FP+ after I use my 3............Nobody will ever convince me otherwise, its just not possible or feasible.............Even if you were correct (which you're not) I would much rather have an extra 10 mins wait at Pirates from 15 mins to 25 mins in your scenario than wait 90 minutes for Seven Dwarfs..............No argument I've ever read can counter that argument....It's a fact that FP+ saves me time

***EDIT*** FP+ works (resort guests, 60 day window), it just doesn't work (AP holder, 30 day window or day tickets) for people who cannot get FP+ to the most popular rides

 

[G00fyDad]

 

[dreday3]

Now give me one with a cat!

 

[G00fyDad]

Now give me one with a cat!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Now give me one with a cat!

 

[LittleBuford]

***EDIT*** FP+ works (resort guests, 60 day window), it just doesn't work (AP holder, 30 day window or day tickets) for people who cannot get FP+ to the most popular rides

It certainly makes it easier, but you don’t need to be sixty days out to get the most coveted FastPasses—not in my experience anyway.

 

[onelove8187]

It certainly makes it easier, but you don’t need to be sixty days out to get the most coveted FastPasses—not in my experience anyway.

It can be more difficult but I have been able to make it work in MK at capacity on NYE two separate times getting 10+ each day. I even remember being particularly excited pulling Slinky during the same post christmas week for a time 90 minutes out.

 

[wedenterprises]

@onelove8187 ......Either the rides need to be built to handle the crowds or a system needs to be used to limit the crowds so this isn't the case.

It seems the park reservation system could/should/might take care of this

 

[onelove8187]

It seems the park reservation system could/should/might take care of this

I wasn't the one who said this; however, I do not believe for one second that disney will use any system to limit capacity once they are up to fully staffed levels of operation. They will not ever turn down a single penny of revenue. They will keep it in order to staff more appropriately, but they will not limit attendance any more than they previously did which Im certain is based on fire/safety regulations.

 

[DisneyCane]

It certainly makes it easier, but you don’t need to be sixty days out to get the most coveted FastPasses—not in my experience anyway.

I used to check at exactly 7AM every morning for FoP when the 30 day window and got one maybe five times over several years. Have you had better success?

 

[LittleBuford]

I used to check at exactly 7AM every morning for FoP when the 30 day window and got one maybe five times over several years. Have you had better success?

Yep. I got a FP while in the park by refreshing the app.

 

[flynnibus]

I'd love to hear how the love for FP+ would change if the refresh 'trick' were to go away.

 

[wedenterprises]

I wasn't the one who said this; however, I do not believe for one second that disney will use any system to limit capacity once they are up to fully staffed levels of operation. They will not ever turn down a single penny of revenue. They will keep it in order to staff more appropriately, but they will not limit attendance any more than they previously did which Im certain is based on fire/safety regulations.

Oops! sorry @DisneyCane had tagged you and I guess it used that as the author... Weird.

That's my thinking too, but I'm hoping for a limit on capacity. Maybe they'd introduce more expensive low-crowd days....

 

[LittleBuford]

I'd love to hear how the love for FP+ would change if the refresh 'trick' were to go away.

It's not a trick. New FastPasses are distributed throughout the day, or returned to the pool when people cancel them. Refreshing the app simply shows what's "in stock" at that given moment. It's how the system is supposed to work, not some bug or hack.

 

[flynnibus]

It's not a trick. New FastPasses are distributed throughout the day, or returned to the pool when people cancel them. Refreshing the app simply shows what's "in stock" at that given moment. It's how the system is supposed to work, not some bug or hack.

It is a trick - because only the people that manually refresh multiple times and try to land the small window of time when something is available gain from it.

You really think the intended use case is people are supposed to sit there and hit refresh as fast as they can for 2-5mins until something pops up? That was the big 'easy of use' they expected everyone to do to use the system?

Do not confuse 'possible' with 'intended used'. It's a trick to jump on what would otherwise be missed availability.

The point was many people who praise how many FP+ passes do so only because of this gimmick that the vast majority of people do not do. The vast majority of people are not getting 12+ FPs in a day, nor getting their family of 5 FPs for their favorite attraction on a whim day of.

The entire point was to point out that getting so many FPs in the FP+ system without much effort is an EXCEPTION - not the norm. So when you judge the whole system by that... well, you get bad conclusions.

 

[G00fyDad]

I wasn't the one who said this; however, I do not believe for one second that disney will use any system to limit capacity once they are up to fully staffed levels of operation. They will not ever turn down a single penny of revenue. They will keep it in order to staff more appropriately, but they will not limit attendance any more than they previously did which Im certain is based on fire/safety regulations.

Chapek himself has said that it's not going anywhere. Maybe he lied or maybe he can change his mind later but for right now he said that Park Pass is not going anywhere.

 

[LittleBuford]

because only the people that manually refresh multiple times and try to land the small window of time when something is available gain from it.

That's not true at all. Someone who isn't continually refreshing could also obtain the same FastPasses if they happen to look for them at the right moment. Refreshing the app is simply about maximising your opportunities.

The point was many people who praise how many FP+ passes do so only because of this gimmick that the vast majority of people do not do. The vast majority of people are not getting 12+ FPs in a day, nor getting their family of 5 FPs for their favorite attraction on a whim day of.

OK, but that's their choice, just as it's my choice to avail myself of a function that is built into the system.

What would taking the "trick" away look for you? You're making it sound like some sort of loophole that Disney could close, but how exactly?

 

[BaconPancakes]

Can’t wait to buy my fast passes in the future. Bring on the change!

 

[flynnibus]

That's not true at all. Someone who isn't continually refreshing could also obtain the same FastPasses if they happen to look for them at the right moment. Refreshing the app is simply about maximising your opportunities.

You're missing the point. The ability of a person to get so many FPs is not typical. It's only possible because they continue on.

Its like the guy who says 'i never have a problem getting great concert tickets...." -- Because he has a bot army spamming the ticket site to ensure he always gets in.

It's not how the system is intended to be used nor are their results typical. You'll never see a Disney ad showing dad refreshing his MDE app for 5 minutes to land his Splash Mountain FP

OK, but that's their choice, just as it's my choice to avail myself of a function that is built into the system.

Not 'choice' - it's gaming the system trying to gain an edge over the other guy by making sure you see availability the instant it's there. It's a trick to try to ensure you get to the front of the line. Is it 'allowed'... of course, but again the point is the outcome using this method is not typical of all FP+ usage.

What would taking the "trick" away look for you? You're making it sound like some sort of loophole that Disney could close, but how exactly?

Disney could take away the manual refresh and just have the page cache managed.