Fast Pass Upgraded?

Legacy

Well-Known Member
I know it's been casually mentioned earlier, but I think it bears repeating.

Universal got a tiered system to work. Disney can too.
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
thrupaytonseyes said:
From what I hear, not many people actually use the universal pass system because you have to pay extra for it.
From what I know... it's a misconception that you have to pay for Express. The only time you have to pay for it is HHN. During park hours it's free with admission.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
and it still manages not to be fair. and i am a firm subscriber to the idea that everyone deserves to have what the richest people can afford... if only once

I believe those in your line of thought prefer to use the word "entitled" instead of deserve. Deserve indicates the idea that someone has done something to earn what is being provided to them.
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
hakunamatata said:
I believe those in your line of thought prefer to use the word "entitled" instead of deserve. Deserve indicates the idea that someone has done something to earn what is being provided to them.
Right on target! :wave:
 

Enderikari

Well-Known Member
Wow, talk about a bunch of folks getting all angry over nothing... Can't happen. The tiered fastpass system is a pipe dream, and would take an overhaul of the entire programming of fastpass to do it...

Think of this, the only way WDW knows someone is staying at a resort is via a resort ID. The fastpass system is tied into a guests park ticket.. right..?
Well, this doesn't present too much of a problem is said guest's tickets are attached to their Key to the World VING card, but, not every guest has their tickets attached to their room card. How about guests using tickets from a previous visit? How about guests who have annual passes (which cannot be attached to a plastic ticket)?
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
Enderikari said:
Wow, talk about a bunch of folks getting all angry over nothing... Can't happen. The tiered fastpass system is a pipe dream, and would take an overhaul of the entire programming of fastpass to do it...

I honestly don't know if it will happen or not. But I'm not going to say that it CAN'T happen. I'm sure if they put their people on the task, it could be done.
 

Enderikari

Well-Known Member
Ummm... WDW resort hotels consistenly run over 90% occupied, higher than just about every hotel chain/area in the world.... Their need to boost those numbers is always a neat thing, but not necessarily a priority, until they open up a new resort (or resort area, such as Pop Century: The Golden/Legendary Years)
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Legacy said:
I know it's been casually mentioned earlier, but I think it bears repeating.

Universal got a tiered system to work. Disney can too.
I don't think the two can really be compared. If I am not mistaken Universal has a 3 tier system (resort guest, express pass purchase, and standard fast pass) Disney could easily have a 6 or more tier system (DVC, deluxe, moderate, value, express pass, and fast pass) Not to mention Disney has on the order of 10 times the amount of resort guests than Universal. On the times I have been to Universal I have noticed a huge difference in being a resort and non resort guest. In fact there was so much of a difference that I no longer go to Universal unless I am a resort guest. This same feeling of exclusion would only be magnified at the Disney parks and that reason alone is enough for me to think that the system would negatively effect park attendance and therefore will not be implemented.
 

geubux

Member
Obviously, WDW makes more money with guest who stay on property and go to the parks multiple days. Food, entertainment, and gifts add up big time. The few dollars difference in the one day park tix doesn't add up to squat. Also, the people staying in the higher end hotels are probably spending much more in food by dining at more full service restaurants than someone staying in economy and eating cereal for breakfast and cold cut sandwiches for lunch.
Been there, done that which is how I know the meal.
In the patent application, was there mention of being able to upgrade your front of the line options with cash as at Universal?

I still stay at DVC so I can save on meals. They most likely will not get the deluxe passes since they could be considered a captive audience. They (we) are people who are going to be there anyway, so need to entice us with benefits in order to get more money out of us.
 

PagingTomMorrow

New Member
TAC said:
I was not the one who said that I was joining the peace corps, you said that. Do not push that issue back on me.

Plus as Legacy said, she is dead.


i said as in what are you doing to help, mother theresa. i was being sarcastic and adressing you as mother theresa. and if youre not doing anything to help out then you have no room to criticize someone who is
 

PagingTomMorrow

New Member
Legacy said:
The class structure is a part of capitalism. That's why we have lower, middle, and upper-class.

If you want blanket equality move to China.

when i go to disney i want a trip to disneyworld not a trip to a living breathing economics lesson


plus there isnt blanket equality in china now that theyre moving into a capitalist government, slowly but still. then again there wasnt blanket equality in the days of mao zedong either. communism is even more corrupt than capitalism
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
communism is even more corrupt than capitalism

:veryconfu

I thought that you said you wanted it to be the same for everyone... no class differences... communism is based on one class - same for everyone.

So, if you say that communism is more corrupt, why do you want to force the one class scenario on fastpasses?
 

dflye

New Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
i said as in what are you doing to help, mother theresa. i was being sarcastic and adressing you as mother theresa. and if youre not doing anything to help out then you have no room to criticize someone who is
I think the difficulty arose due to the way your original sentence was constructed:

and what are you doing to help out mother theresa?
That doesn't make it clear that you are addressing someone as Mother Theresa, versus asking what the person is doing to help Mother Theresa.

Punctuation can be your friend, one well placed comma could have saved some wasted flames that we'll all need to heat our homes this winter when the price of heating oil goes through the roof! :wave:
 

bgraham34

Well-Known Member
Its a good idea in theory. Would I be mad if staying at a cheaper resort gets me 1 pass every two hours verse a more expensive one were i can have 3 per 2 hours, i would be mad. But Disney will do what Disney wants to do. As long as they still have them its fine with me.
 

PagingTomMorrow

New Member
hakunamatata said:
I believe those in your line of thought prefer to use the word "entitled" instead of deserve. Deserve indicates the idea that someone has done something to earn what is being provided to them.


most rich people dont deserve the money they have.
 

dflye

New Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
most rich people dont deserve the money they have.
And how do you define someone as "rich"? :veryconfu

By income? By net worth? By the location of their home?

Either way, that is a pretty broad statement to make!
 

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