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Fast Pass Plus for Disneyland Resort
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deix15x8
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Was thinking about this some more, could the iPhone actually be the DL Magic Band? Think about it, the Magic Band in WDW allows you to enter your room and parks, it acts as your FastPass, and enables you to make purchases. Disney was one of the first companies to jump onboard for Apple Pay which takes care of purchases. The iPhone has NFC that is locked down for just Apple Pay, but they have stated that they plan to enable it for third party use in the future (Android already does). September would put it in line with a new iOS release. I could see a new Disneyland MyMagic app that puts your tickets into PassBook for use in entering the parks. They could theoretically then allow your phone to act in almost every way like a Magic Band and the tickets/APs can have most of that same functionality based on the chip in them. Tap your phone to pay, tap your phone to enter your room, tap your phone to get in the park, use the app to make a FP reservation, tap your phone to use it. They could make phones and passes interchangeable. For APs that would actually eliminate one more thing to remember to have with you in case you want to make a stop by the parks when in the area.
We know that Apple and Disney have always been close so the idea of them having advanced access to Apple's plans and being a part of the big reveal as a major partner would not be too far out there.
We know that Apple and Disney have always been close so the idea of them having advanced access to Apple's plans and being a part of the big reveal as a major partner would not be too far out there.
lazyboy97o
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Disney does not have as much control with tracking if they use a third party solution. The lack of a MagicBand in California probably has a lot more to do with California than demographic differences between the Disneyland Resort and Walt Disney World.
KingdomofDreams
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I can certainly see the antiquated paper Fastpass system going away sooner rather than later. No need to inconvenience a guest by requiring them, or a member of their party, to traverse the park just to pull a piece of paper out of a machine when they could use an app to obtain the Fastpass reservation.
The bands are actually convenient and efficient, but not necessary to implement the system. I could easily see advance FT+ reservations for both parks for Disney Resort guests and same day for all others, available once they have entered either of the two parks.
The bands are actually convenient and efficient, but not necessary to implement the system. I could easily see advance FT+ reservations for both parks for Disney Resort guests and same day for all others, available once they have entered either of the two parks.
Figments Friend
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Not everyone in the world chooses to own a smartphone, or chooses to carry one while in the Parks.
It really irritates me when companies assume *everyone* has one....Disney included.
I do not. Never felt a need for one.
I am sure there are others besides me on this planet who like to visit the Park and also do not own one, or choose not to carry one while enjoying themselves *away from the real world*.
I would like to think that there are still some of us out here who visit Disneyland and rather enjoy deciding on a whim what to do or see at any given moment....and prefer to not decide ahead of time and *book in advance* or *hyper-plan* everything beforehand.
That is NOT a vacation...or a relaxing visit...for some.
Part of the reason i no longer visit WDW is for that reason.
The MM+-FP+ nonsense has encroached too heavily on the Guest experience, not to mention that the wasted capex could have been used in a far better way...like actually building a top-of-the-line truly NEW E-ticket experience.
I am sure DLR will eventually get some type of *tech FP* option, but i hope they really do their research and understand the typical crowd that regularly visits.
It may well be more convenient for some then paper FPs, but let*s not let the hyper-planning aspects overshadow everything.
Disneyland is wonderful because of the fact you CAN just show up, walk through the gates, and do whatever you want whenever you want most of the time.
No pre-booking required.
I really love that about the Park.
I hope that aspect never gets taken away from the experience just to satisfy a perceived *convenience*.
Not everyone in the world chooses to own a smartphone, or chooses to carry one while in the Parks.
It really irritates me when companies assume *everyone* has one....Disney included.
I do not. Never felt a need for one.
I am sure there are others besides me on this planet who like to visit the Park and also do not own one, or choose not to carry one while enjoying themselves *away from the real world*.
I would like to think that there are still some of us out here who visit Disneyland and rather enjoy deciding on a whim what to do or see at any given moment....and prefer to not decide ahead of time and *book in advance* or *hyper-plan* everything beforehand.
That is NOT a vacation...or a relaxing visit...for some.
Part of the reason i no longer visit WDW is for that reason.
The MM+-FP+ nonsense has encroached too heavily on the Guest experience, not to mention that the wasted capex could have been used in a far better way...like actually building a top-of-the-line truly NEW E-ticket experience.
I am sure DLR will eventually get some type of *tech FP* option, but i hope they really do their research and understand the typical crowd that regularly visits.
It may well be more convenient for some then paper FPs, but let*s not let the hyper-planning aspects overshadow everything.
Disneyland is wonderful because of the fact you CAN just show up, walk through the gates, and do whatever you want whenever you want most of the time.
No pre-booking required.
I really love that about the Park.
I hope that aspect never gets taken away from the experience just to satisfy a perceived *convenience*.
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Californian Elitist
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Fast pass machines are not nuisances for us.
The DLR is not some big-time vacation spot like WDW. The parks and hotels do just fine the way they are. No need for all this tech/FP+/bands stuff for theme parks that are visited by lots of locals who go on a whim with no planning.
lazyboy97o
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This is exactly why Disney would want MyMagic+ at the Disneyland Resort. More information on visitation means more data for planning.
ght
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Exactly, plus the biggest selling point for DL for me is the casual nature in which I can visit the parks. The only planning I have to do is reserving my hotel room and figuring out which nights have shows I want to see. Maybe reserving a table service meal the week before I go. I don't want to have anything that makes me plan out things like when I am going to ride a specific ride. I am not even a local, it is just that once you have been to DL a few times and learn the lay of the land, there really isn't much need to do a lot of pre-trip planning.
ght
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Well there was an Iron Man "something" in Innovations, though I doubt it was an "attraction" for anyone.
Disneysea05
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Personally, I would welcome Fastpass+ at Disneyland.
Even when I just want to "drop in", I have a general idea of what rides I may want to do. So why not have Fastpass reservations to be able to do that easier. I like that better than having to walk over to a Fastpass machine and see if a. They still have Fastpasses left (Indiana Jones and Space Mountain, especially) and b. If the current return time works with some other stuff I want to see/do in the park that day.
I would imagine at Disneyland, a greater % of same day Fastpass+ would be allotted than at WDW.
Even when I just want to "drop in", I have a general idea of what rides I may want to do. So why not have Fastpass reservations to be able to do that easier. I like that better than having to walk over to a Fastpass machine and see if a. They still have Fastpasses left (Indiana Jones and Space Mountain, especially) and b. If the current return time works with some other stuff I want to see/do in the park that day.
I would imagine at Disneyland, a greater % of same day Fastpass+ would be allotted than at WDW.
Californian Elitist
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Unless it was a manager at guest relations and NOT a janitor...
lazyboy97o
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Managers, even at Guest Relations, are not necessarily more informed about top-level decisions.
Yes, but they are informed about the possibilities of what might come.
lazyboy97o
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Not in an official capacity, so no.
Californian Elitist
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Managers or not, CMs aren't truly aware of what will come to the parks and what won't.
DznyGrlSD
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THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS THIS THIS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate FP+ hate hate HATE it.
JediMasterMatt
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It's important to remember that MM+'s offshoot of crowd steering FP+ only has it's most severe negative connotations IF it FP+ gets added to attractions that don't currently have it/need it.
FP+ at WDW is horrible as it has been implemented as a solution to the lack of supply (in the form of capacity) that the resort has. FP+ was added to every attraction as incentive to pull guests away from "popular" (read as long lines) attractions and into less popular and the consequence is making everything have a line. Think of it as theme park socialism.
As I understand it, FP+ for Disneyland is going to be attempted without the above happening. Simply add the MM+'s mobile app capability to schedule reservations for attractions that currently have FP.
Now, there is potential negative consequences to even just doing the above as a portion of the pre-reserved FP times don't get fulfilled and in Anaheim's culture may even be more prone to happening as many "planned" visits never happen on the spur of the moment.
If FP+ is attempted at DLR and it's footprint is constrained to just the attractions that currently have FP and it doesn't creep to all attractions... then the mobile scheduling part probably will be a plus.
All bets are off if they try the crowd steering aspects in Anaheim.
FP+ at WDW is horrible as it has been implemented as a solution to the lack of supply (in the form of capacity) that the resort has. FP+ was added to every attraction as incentive to pull guests away from "popular" (read as long lines) attractions and into less popular and the consequence is making everything have a line. Think of it as theme park socialism.
As I understand it, FP+ for Disneyland is going to be attempted without the above happening. Simply add the MM+'s mobile app capability to schedule reservations for attractions that currently have FP.
Now, there is potential negative consequences to even just doing the above as a portion of the pre-reserved FP times don't get fulfilled and in Anaheim's culture may even be more prone to happening as many "planned" visits never happen on the spur of the moment.
If FP+ is attempted at DLR and it's footprint is constrained to just the attractions that currently have FP and it doesn't creep to all attractions... then the mobile scheduling part probably will be a plus.
All bets are off if they try the crowd steering aspects in Anaheim.