Fantasmic Reopening Watch

[mattpeto]

One week to F! debuts. Dining packages not starting to end of November.

Surely, we will get some operations update SOON on how to attend a show?

My guess is it will go to Genie+ or they will do some sort of VQ for DHS park pass reservation holders.

 

[jrhwdw]

Mine too, but if they don't have the staff to do it, they won't, regardless of demand.

Wouldn't everyone that works at 8, work at 9:30?

We're going in the right direction if DHS is realizing that 1 F! at 9PM is too late for anything else..........

 

[Disney Analyst]

Seeing as Fantasmic would run the same cast on a night, I don’t see why two shows would be a staffing thing?

Sounds more like a… cheap thing.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Seeing as Fantasmic would run the same cast on a night, I don’t see why two shows would be a staffing thing?

Sounds more like a… cheap thing.

I somehow doubt one cast can do 14 shows in a week.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I somehow doubt one cast can do 14 shows in a week.

They couldn’t do the current schedule with one cast… unless everyone is working every single day without a day off…

 

[ToTBellHop]

They couldn’t do the current schedule with one cast… unless everyone is working every single day without a day off…

True. I guess I just assume 14 shows requires more CMs than 7.

 

[jrhwdw]

Next week we'll see how many Casts F! Needs.....2 CM Preview Nights, then 2 Shows a night til MVMCP......

 

[ToTBellHop]

Next week we'll see how many Casts F! Needs.....2 CM Preview Nights, then 2 Shows a night til MVMCP......

Perhaps they are just pulling cast from elsewhere to manage that?

 

[Disney Analyst]

True. I guess I just assume 14 shows requires more CMs than 7.

I am not entirely sure on how Fantasmic was cast / rotated in the past, but I have to assume the only way to run the show in any form is to have rotations ready to go.

So perhaps they don't have enough to securely rotate, but it could also just be... cheap?

 

[mattpeto]

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Notable: 12/4 (the 8 pm closure likely due to a park buyout) has an 8 pm showtime of F! now.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I am not entirely sure on how Fantasmic was cast / rotated in the past, but I have to assume the only way to run the show in any form is to have rotations ready to go.

So perhaps they don't have enough to securely rotate, but it could also just be... cheap?

I imagine 1 show nightly requires 2 casts and 2 nightly requires…3?

Also, they pull cast from elsewhere to staff the amphitheater itself. If the show is at park close, that’s easier to do. Otherwise, you are pulling them with several hours of operation remaining. That’s not trivial. The people who don’t see the show still want Mickey pretzels.

 

[nickys]

1 cast/crew per day. Doesn't matter how many shows on that day.

Also, there are multiple full casts/crew/performers trained for the show.

But we have heard that those performers also do meet&greets and character dining currently. That seems to be the issue. Hence the fact that some of those are being cut, in order for the two performances to go ahead.

 

[ToTBellHop]

It’s being planned to have 2 shows per night starting 12/26 apparently. Not sure how far into January.

 

[Rteetz]

One week to F! debuts. Dining packages not starting to end of November.

Surely, we will get some operations update SOON on how to attend a show?

My guess is it will go to Genie+ or they will do some sort of VQ for DHS park pass reservation holders.

Or this archaic concept where one waits in a first come first served line.

 

[mattpeto]

Or this archaic concept where one waits in a first come first served line.

That's one method to meet Demand. Fairest, but not the most efficient.

But this is 2022, people get in virtual queues to skip lines, buy merch, popcorn buckets, get in multiple queues to enter a race, you name it. There's a reason why pre-pandemic F! was split into FP+, Dining Packages, Dessert Packages and standby before.

To have it all be on Standby until the dining packages eat slots would be an interesting change and put a real burden on parents with young kids.

 

[Rteetz]

That's one method to meet Demand. Fairest, but not the most efficient.

But this is 2022, people get in virtual queues to skip lines, buy merch, popcorn buckets, get in multiple queues to enter a race, you name it. There's a reason why pre-pandemic F! was split into FP+, Dining Packages, Dessert Packages and standby before.

To have it all be on Standby until the dining packages eat slots would be an interesting change and put a real burden on parents with young kids.

The reason was money. Disney made money doing those things. Having people book a FP+ for it saved them time elsewhere to spend money. Dining packages and parties made them money as well.

To have it standby for a couple weeks would not be burden and would not be a change. They offered standby before. There is going to need to be a bit of a test and adjust period. Will this be offered by Genie+? Probably but maybe not initially. I don't see a major concern there. This isn't a new show, they know how to crowd control it.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Or this archaic concept where one waits in a first come first served line.

 

[Rteetz]

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I guess I am an old soul in a young persons body. I am prepared to wait. I'll be there opening day.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I guess I am an old soul in a young persons body. I am prepared to wait. I'll be there opening day.

Sure you can stay up that late, Grandpa?

 

[Rteetz]

Sure you can stay up that late, Grandpa?

Considering I have to be up at 2AM for a 5K the next morning I am not sure.