F&W: Don't put the word "beer" on your shirt...

[Gabe1]

We were stopped by my husband's T-shirt at entrance and detained for a manager. My husbands Hallmark Gift shirt was: Hell hath no fury as a mans tools messed with. And pictures of tools. Ya never know what goes through individual CMs minds when they are over zealously interpreting the rules.

 

[backinaction]

There is no rule like that. I've seen people with "drinking around the world" t-shirts on that were hammered ( and I mean really really drunk) who were never denied alcohol. I know because i've seen them at each country getting beers. I figure that the CM just thought the person was too drunk to serve.

 

[Jekyll_Baker]

Perhaps the CM normally works in MK and was there on temporary assignment?

 

[Mawg]

Sorry but do we really need turkey leg and dolewhip shirts? Come on.

I own the Dolewhip shirt, Love it!

 

[zulemara]

We try to catch as many bad t-shirts as we can but unfortunately we don't see everything. Did the CM/Manager give you attitude or anything when you did get them?

I've never heard of the alcohol t-shirt rule and have seen too many drunk people to count while I'm clearing the park.

I'm sorry, I should have elaborated a bit and I apologize in advance that I'm about to sidetrack this topic a bit. You're right, the cast at the turnstiles can't see everything and you know why that is? Because Disney cheaps out on labor and makes one CM work multiple turnstiles. You can't actually look at people's tshirts when there are thousands coming at you with questions, inability to "stick it in and put your finger on it," strollers, wheelchairs, complaints, it's chaos. I get that, and I'm sure there are some front entrance people who would laugh or just simply, for minimum wage(CPs), don't want to cause a confrontation with a guest when there are thousands to be let into the park.

I have been in that situation myself, as I actually saw someone get off my ferryboat at opening with the F word on it at MK. But there was a ferryboat of 600 waiting to come in and all I can do is follow the guy to turnstiles to point it out to front entrance, who actually has the power to do something about it. Sadly, I had to take the option of letting it go, but I doubt, given the way the shirt was worded, that anyone saw it at the turnstiles.

Having said all that, the biggest issue I have is the ONLY front line CMs who have the power to ask a guest to turn a shirt inside out or threaten to throw them out are main entrance ops. Any other CM, from merch to security has to call a manager. So now the % of CMs who aren't going to DO anything about it increases. Thankfully the day I was in EPCOT, I was a guest so I talked to the German merch CM who got her manager. The little brat ended up getting a free t-shirt. It used to be they just made you turn it inside out. I was actually mad about that, but whatever, at least he's not working around with on his shirt!

What I find interesting though is it's a different component when you have alcohol involved. Now suddenly service can be refused because of beer on a shirt. Makes no sense to me, but then again, a LOT of things don't make sense about Disney.

edit: and no, I didn't get any lip from the CM or manager, but I can't believe the kid made it all the way into world showcase to Germany with no one saying anything about it, guest or cast! Why? Because cast are not empowered to do anything without a manager, so most simply aren't going to bother, and it makes me both sad and angry at the same time.

 

[BCVTalsJam]

I'm guessing that was just an excuse to get them to leave the area because of their behavior.

 

[Empress Room]

We attended F&W this past weekend and saw multitudes of alcohol/drinking around the world and various other drunk reference t-shirts at the food booths. Everyone was served with a smile; in fact, at Hops and Barles, the CMs used the passport stamp on a number of guests' t-shirts who had various beers/wines printed on their t-shirts.

 

[71jason]

Wait, how many did you have in you when you saw this happen?

LOL, this was my first. I'm surprised I lasted even 90 minutes in the park that night.

 

[bigorangeandy]

If you show up wearing a Dr Pepper shirt, would they refuse to sell you a Coke?

 

[71jason]

I'm sure there's more to the story. But seriously, you stood there trying to take a picture?

Sure. I'd briefly talked to the guys (basic "Wait--what?", "Yeah, can you believe this?" stuff)--the line wasn't moving, pourers apparently slower than cashiers--and I knew if I posted this online there would be plenty of debate as to whether it actually happened. The guy in the shirt was happy to do it. It was kind of a cool shirt.

To reiterate, these guys were not "drunk" or even "buzzed." They were unfailingly polite, even after being refused service. And the cashier specifically said the word "beer" on the shirt was the issue. I'm sure these are temporary people, genuinely curious why they were so overzealous, and whether this is a new policy or something unearthed out of the handbook.

 

[FabulousFigment]

If you show up wearing a Dr Pepper shirt, would they refuse to sell you a Coke?

Not sure about that but DH wore a Budweiser shirt to HS on our Honeymoon and in each picture was told to cross his arms over the emblem or they would not take our pic.

 

[Bolt]

Not sure about that but DH wore a Budweiser shirt to HS on our Honeymoon and in each picture was told to cross his arms over the emblem or they would not take our pic.

That's more because you have the ability to edit the photos to add boarders with Disney characters. They have a strict rule on having a character with alcohol. At M&G's - I've seen Cast Members tell them to put their alcohol down before meeting a character.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Seems to be a lot of reports about t-shirts getting replaced this weekend. I'm guessing they had a meeting recently and Epcot SWAT felt obligated to crack down.

 

[asianway]

That's more because you have the ability to edit the photos to add boarders with Disney characters. They have a strict rule on having a character with alcohol. At M&G's - I've seen Cast Members tell them to put their alcohol down before meeting a character.

They're not supposed to allow any beverage in a character photo, even a coke.

 

[Camera1950s]

Perhaps its more of a advertising thing than a moral thing. Maybe what they realy are looking to stop are people walking around with a big Budwiser or Coors shirt as a way to get cheep advertising at the F&W!

 

[smw]

I had to tell a CM to get a manager to have the kid's shirt turned inside out.

Wait- you requested a manager and had them tell someone to turn their shirt inside-out because it said "?" I find that much more obnoxious than the word on the shirt. It's the park's job to make rules and enforce them, not yours.

 

[smw]

I have been in that situation myself, as I actually saw someone get off my ferryboat at opening with the F word on it at MK. But there was a ferryboat of 600 waiting to come in and all I can do is follow the guy to turnstiles to point it out to front entrance, who actually has the power to do something about it. Sadly, I had to take the option of letting it go, but I doubt, given the way the shirt was worded, that anyone saw it at the turnstiles.

You were the hall monitor in school, weren't you? Lol.

 

[zulemara]

Wait- you requested a manager and had them tell someone to turn their shirt inside-out because it said "?" I find that much more obnoxious than the word on the shirt. It's the park's job to make rules and enforce them, not yours.

I"m a cast member, one who takes pride in the product(what's left of it) that we deliver. "The park" can't always catch things for reasons I stated previously(lack of staff, or staff not caring). So yes, if I'm at a park and I see a guest with a blatant swear word, I'm going to bring it to someone's attention. The sad thing is I have more power as a guest than I do when I'm on the clock.

And I'll add that on NYE in EPCOT in the Italy pavilion, CMs came out of their shops at closing to dance. Fine, no problem with that, but when they started smoking on stage, in costume and/or kissing the girlfriend, that was completely unacceptable behavior and I responded appropriately.

You don't have to agree with me. I'm a little shocked that people would call ME the for reporting someone with a swear word on a tshirt(I'm not talking about hell or damn here), but whatever. I'm a cast member 100% of the time, not just on the clock and as such I'm always protecting the magic because I feel a connection and an obligation to uphold what Walt wanted as much as I can. Maybe that comes from spending an entire day at sea talking to Bob Gurr or walking around the world showcase with him afterwards, but that's my philosophy and it will never change even when I part ways with the company in January.

 

[Gt2BtheGoodLife]

I will say this, I think Germany has a shirt that says Bier on it that they sell don't they?

As for what was being mentioned earlier on photos, yes, photographers will request that you somehow cover up what is offensive on the shirt (such as alcohol mentioning, crude language, or images) and it is normal with character locations as well that there is to be no food or drinks in the photos or really near the characters at all. These are family friendly parks after all (on shirts and what's on them)

 

[menamechris]

If this is true and Disney is cracking down on something like alcohol references on tshirts - there could be a serious issue going forward. And I am talking about their bottom line. I don't think adults appreciate being "nannied" by Mickey Mouse Police. Most references of alcohol go over children's heads. And I think most adults can see the humor in most of the shirts. Start offending people who drink responsibly over something so petty, and there may not be much of a F&W Festival - or World Showcase for that matter - in a few years...