Express Transportation starting Dec 7th

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drizgirl

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Goofyernmost said:
Because I used it both as transportation while staying and to park hop or whatever other need I had on occasion, I even went for an interview to be a driver, but, at the time I couldn't move to Florida. I also talked with a couple dozen drivers, saw the "paddle" (busing name for schedule for stops and locations and times.) And I worked in the business for a large number of years. I know how the transit systems work. They are for mass transit, not individual transit. They systems cannot be built around the wants of one person at any given time. I know enough about how they are supposed to work that I don't use them regularly because it is quicker have a car available and no waiting for anything is involved. I know why they instituted the pay for service and it isn't because the system isn't good enough to work, it's that people have become so whiny and entitled that they expect the world to roll over and play dead so that they won't be inconvenienced. I'm glad they did that "extra" because maybe now we won't have t listen to how incompetent the system is. Now we can listen to the whining about how they have to pay for it when it used to be free. Problem is, it still is free as the system that is supposed to work as mass transit, all one had to do is use it. You want extra, you get to pay for it. Kind of like life!
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So you're going with "I heard it from a bus driver?" :cool:

I'm sure you know a lot about transit systems. But an occasional ride on a Disney bus does not an expert make.
 
lebeau

lebeau

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Disneyhead'71 said:
Now that Disney is double charging for acceptable transportation, it seems that the logical reaction would be to rent a car, stay at a nice place off property, and expand your entertainment options to include non-Disney offerings.
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I came to that conclusion before this upcharge. After staying at Universal, my wife never wants to deal with Disney transportation ever again.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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kpilcher said:
[QUOTE="Do any of you have the cost in dollars that Disney Corp. paid for these upgrades to the bus system that everyone enjoys without having to pay a 'private lane' or 'schedule monitor' upcharge. Because, to me, that seems to indicate investment in a better bus system.
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No one will have the actual cost, of course. But, yes. Disney has spent some money. The REAL question is not how much have they invested but how much SHOULD they have invested to keep up with demand? Better question yet: where are the RESULTS? I was recently with friends staying club level at the Poly. After waiting for a bus (to DHS, iirc) their bus then detoured to the Grand Floridian for yet another wait. Before FINALLY heading where they wanted. It took more than an hour. I drove them back and it took 15 minutes or less. These are people paying some of the highest prices at one of the premiere resorts on property. If they can't get efficient and courteous bus service without another upcharge something is tremendously and fundamentally wrong. I have friends who own DVC at Saratoga Springs. They visited in a relatively quiet period this year shortly before Thanksgiving. Never have I heard them so dissatisfied with the bus service and waits. Since it was relatively close, I advised them to walk to Disney Springs and try it there and it was much faster. That is also not right. DVCers spend a lot of money up front, annually and in ever-increasing maintenance fees. They, too should have some of the best service on property. Oh. And Reedy Creek would have paid for the "private lane." Likely with tax money paid for from guest rooms, financed by dirt-cheap government bonds. It may be government of, by and (mostly) for Disney --- but the setup keeps a ton of costs off of Disney corporate balance sheets.
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The stop at GF is so quick, and it is literally right next door. That's probably the best 2 places to be for "resort sharing transportation".

I can't ever remember it being a hassle. Not every resort can have their own bus. Nor should they. Especially Poly and GF. It only makes sense for them to share.
 
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21stamps

21stamps

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Disneyhead'71 said:
Now that Disney is double charging for acceptable transportation, it seems that the logical reaction would be to rent a car, stay at a nice place off property, and expand your entertainment options to include non-Disney offerings.
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Or use Uber like I do sometimes. I don't use Uber because the bus system is bad. I use it because I am impatient, and don't want to wait 8 minutes for the next bus if I'm running late. That's on me, not Disney.
 
awilliams4

awilliams4

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My take on this. I think it is great. We would be willing to pay double what they are charging too. When we stay at BCV or BWV, we can eat our late lunch/early dinner at Epcot or partake in the Food and Wine or Flower and Garden Festival and when we are done eating we can now far more easily get to the other parks to enjoy them. Hope it is successful.
 
NYwdwfan

NYwdwfan

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21stamps said:
How did I quote the wrong person?lol. The text is there, but the name isn't. No clue how I did that one.
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The post you quoted was messed up. If you go back in and replace this:

[QUOTE="Do any of you have the cost in dollars that Disney Corp. paid for these upgrades to the bus system that everyone enjoys without having to pay a 'private lane' or 'schedule monitor' upcharge. Because, to me, that seems to indicate investment in a better bus system.

With this (minus the spaces - it messes up my post without them):
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It should fix things. I think.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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drizgirl said:
So you're going with "I heard it from a bus driver?" :cool:

I'm sure you know a lot about transit systems. But an occasional ride on a Disney bus does not an expert make.
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How much do you know about busing systems? Just curious, because you seem to be pretty sure you know more then I do about it. Perhaps, you might listen to someone that does know about them and made their living dealing with them instead of listening to a bunch of "expert" bus opinions based on individual desires and not any idea of how things are supposed to happen. I lived in the business 40 to 50 hours per week for years. If there is an occasional user it is you. When you know what a horse looks like you don't have to ride it constantly to know it's a horse.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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NYwdwfan said:
The post you quoted was messed up. If you go back in and replace this:

[QUOTE="Do any of you have the cost in dollars that Disney Corp. paid for these upgrades to the bus system that everyone enjoys without having to pay a 'private lane' or 'schedule monitor' upcharge. Because, to me, that seems to indicate investment in a better bus system.

With this (minus the spaces - it messes up my post without them):
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It should fix things. I think.
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Thank you! It worked.
 
jt04

jt04

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NYwdwfan said:
So - 2 days in and no reports of first hand experience?
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Exactly.

On a side note, it seems to me people in this thread are really unhappy about having too many options. So many, they are forced to pick and choose and hate that the fact others will pick different options to meet their needs and having to deal with coveting what they have. Instead of just enjoying their own choices.

This is at the heart of the complaining.
 

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