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[danyoung56]

Master Yoda, that's an interesting analogy, but sadly I don't agree with it. I think a lot more than 1% of the riders know about the broken Yeti. And it's such a high profile thing - just look at the articles in various newspapers around the country. And it's gone on for so long that it's a total embarrassment to Disney. That's what leads me to think that it's more than just an expensive fix - it's a freakin' MAJOR expensive fix. To me that's the only thing that makes sense.

 

[barkerbird]

There's plenty of evidence that Disney has had bad periods in their maintenance programs. Look no further than the Columbia incident in DL, where a cleat pulled loose of some rotten boards and killed a guy (admittedly this catastrophe involved some poorly trained CMs who didn't follow proper docking procedures). Or look at the video of the Splash Mountain finale (don't know if it was DL or WDW) where all of the animatronics weren't working. AT ALL - just a bunch of big chickens and other barnyard animals standing there stock still! So yeah, I can believe that stuff breaks and doesn't get fixed. I'm just having a hard time believing that this incredibly high profile busted up yeti is totally easy to fix, but Disney doesn't fix it cuz of either money or cuz they just don't wanna. It makes no sense to me.

Each attraction malfunction involving AAs has a code. Every single AA is either a 1 or 2 figure. With 1 being important, and 2 being secondary. Let's take Pirates for example. Captain Jack Sparrow is a 1, and the hairy leg pirate is a 2. If Jack Sparrow starts malfunctioning, the ride is stopped and that figure will need a repair immediately. Any other figure can potentially wait until after hours, depending on the issue. Sometimes these malfunctions are not reported, many times they are by guests. The maintanence teams are usually on top of these cases. It's easy for guests to get a quick video of a ride not working properly, but most of the time it's taken care of quickly.

 

[Incomudro]

Maybe the Yeti will be worked on after Pandora opens.

 

[Chef Kronk]

Maybe the Yeti will be worked on after Pandora opens.

A lot of people think that, but as @marni1971 says, they aren't going to fix it if guests continue to ride it. A lot of people don't even know that the Yeti is broken.

 

[Wikkler]

Each attraction malfunction involving AAs has a code. Every single AA is either a 1 or 2 figure. With 1 being important, and 2 being secondary. Let's take Pirates for example. Captain Jack Sparrow is a 1, and the hairy leg pirate is a 2. If Jack Sparrow starts malfunctioning, the ride is stopped and that figure will need a repair immediately. Any other figure can potentially wait until after hours, depending on the issue. Sometimes these malfunctions are not reported, many times they are by guests. The maintanence teams are usually on top of these cases. It's easy for guests to get a quick video of a ride not working properly, but most of the time it's taken care of quickly.

So the Yeti is a 2?

 

[Cesar R M]

So the Yeti is a 2?

probably a 9.. aka "do not give a darn"

 

[barkerbird]

So the Yeti is a 2?

Haha! Probably.. I'm not sure why it hasn't been fixed. At least I was fortunate enough to get the most out of it working while it did. My solution would be to add another AA to the ride, but that might take away from the suspense of not seeing him

 

[LAKid53]

This thread is still going on, 7 years and 113 pages later?!

 

[Cesar R M]

This thread is still going on, 7 years and 113 pages later?!

yeah.. you can blame the guys at Disney for not fixing one of the best AA installed at WDW.

 

[Ralphlaw]

The most logical explanation is that it will take a major shutdown to fix it and a short fix will jeopardize the possibility of a full major fix.

With that being said, I rode it this week and even the projection of the yeti ripping out the tracks was off. No bird at all. No steam. And disco yeti to boot. Overall, the exchange student I was riding with thought it was ok, but didn't really feel like riding it again. Going backwards was the big thing for him on this ride. But if all the stuff was working, and a giant hairy yeti had swept down on him, I guarantee he would have been booking another fastpass for later in the week.

The current EE is not not not not what anyone wants, Disney absolutely has to have the plans already set to shut it down for a major rehab. I see EE being shut down for a major rehaul about 6 months after Avatar opens. Maybe I'm wrong, but this makes the most sense.

 

[KeithVH]

This thread is still going on, 7 years and 113 pages later?!

You know, when this popped up, I was thinking the same thing. Besides great minds thinking alike, if the age of this issue doesn't give anyone a clue as to the relative concern TDO has about fixing it, then no number of rumors or facts are going to sway the discussion.

 

[Ralphlaw]

No, can't see 7 years and 113 pages dedicated to a hairy legged pirate. I'd bet money that a major fix comes after Avatar opens. Also, note how crowded each park other than AK was over the holidays. Wait times in excess of 2 hours for the e-tickets at each of the other 3 parks. MK had a partial closure, and Studios apparently ran out of parking space. Epcot was wall to wall people on New Year's eve, with long lines virtually everywhere for most of the entire week beforehand.

Yet at AK, it wasn't so bad. There's room for more guests, and it's headliner, EE, wasn't pulling them in. Why? Because its most unique and amazing feature is barely seen. Face it, AK is still a partial day park for most people, but a truly super EE would not only keep guests there longer, thousands more would be showing up everyday. And guests might book an extra day in the hotels to justify a full AK day. And guests would buy far more merch and eat far more meals on property.

A broken EE is the definition of lost opportunity for cashflow and profits, yet some on this thread want us to believe that Disney doesn't care. Of course they care, but they won't shut it down until Avatar is up and running,. A mediocre EE is better than no EE given the relative mediocrity of the rest of the park right now. Dinosaur is cool, but who rides it more than once? Festival of the Lion King is great, but nobody thinks of going twice. The actual animals are wonderful, but not much different from many zoos around the world. Kali is basically the same as dozens of other splash rides, only with good theming. Bug, Dinoland and Nemo are nice, but hardly headlining. Face it, without EE, AK is not that awe-inspiring, and with a mediocre EE, the park attendance surely suffers.

Of course, there's no way to prove this, but logic and common sense surely point to this syllogism:
1. EE would take a serious shutdown to fix.
2. A fully working EE would pull in great crowds and be very profitable for the company.
3. A mediocre EE is good, but a non-EE Animal Kingdom is a very mediocre park.
4. ERGO: Disney will continue with mediocre EE until the time is ripe for a full shutdown.
5. The opening of Avatar will ripen the time for the shutdown.
6. Until Avatar opens, mediocre EE will still help bring in enough guests to keep AK from being irrelevant.

Just to prove the point, it's 3:30 on January 3rd, and each of the other 3 parks has at least 2 attractions with 60+ minute waits. At AK it's 45 minutes for EE, while Kilimanjaro and Dinosaur lead the rest of the pack with 10 minutes. Meanwhile, the electricity is still on and hundreds of CMs are working there. A great EE would keep guests there. While the thrill-seekers wait to ride EE again, the rest of the family rides something else, goes shopping, or grabs a snack. A medicore EE is a ride-once-and-leave moment. And leave they do, with plenty of money still jingling in their pockets. And plenty of other potential guests not even bothering to show up at all.

 

[PizzaPlanet]

No, can't see 7 years and 113 pages dedicated to a hairy legged pirate. I'd bet money that a major fix comes after Avatar opens. Also, note how crowded each park other than AK was over the holidays. Wait times in excess of 2 hours for the e-tickets at each of the other 3 parks. MK had a partial closure, and Studios apparently ran out of parking space. Epcot was wall to wall people on New Year's eve, with long lines virtually everywhere for most of the entire week beforehand.

Yet at AK, it wasn't so bad. There's room for more guests, and it's headliner, EE, wasn't pulling them in. Why? Because its most unique and amazing feature is barely seen. Face it, AK is still a partial day park for most people, but a truly super EE would not only keep guests there longer, thousands more would be showing up everyday. And guests might book an extra day in the hotels to justify a full AK day. And guests would buy far more merch and eat far more meals on property.

A broken EE is the definition of lost opportunity for cashflow and profits, yet some on this thread want us to believe that Disney doesn't care. Of course they care, but they won't shut it down until Avatar is up and running,. A mediocre EE is better than no EE given the relative mediocrity of the rest of the park right now. Dinosaur is cool, but who rides it more than once? Festival of the Lion King is great, but nobody thinks of going twice. The actual animals are wonderful, but not much different from many zoos around the world. Kali is basically the same as dozens of other splash rides, only with good theming. Bug, Dinoland and Nemo are nice, but hardly headlining. Face it, without EE, AK is not that awe-inspiring, and with a mediocre EE, the park attendance surely suffers.

Of course, there's no way to prove this, but logic and common sense surely point to this syllogism:
1. EE would take a serious shutdown to fix.
2. A fully working EE would pull in great crowds and be very profitable for the company.
3. A mediocre EE is good, but a non-EE Animal Kingdom is a very mediocre park.
4. ERGO: Disney will continue with mediocre EE until the time is ripe for a full shutdown.
5. The opening of Avatar will ripen the time for the shutdown.
6. Until Avatar opens, mediocre EE will still help bring in enough guests to keep AK from being irrelevant.

Just to prove the point, it's 3:30 on January 3rd, and each of the other 3 parks has at least 2 attractions with 60+ minute waits. At AK it's 45 minutes for EE, while Kilimanjaro and Dinosaur lead the rest of the pack with 10 minutes. Meanwhile, the electricity is still on and hundreds of CMs are working there. A great EE would keep guests there. While the thrill-seekers wait to ride EE again, the rest of the family rides something else, goes shopping, or grabs a snack. A medicore EE is a ride-once-and-leave moment. And leave they do, with plenty of money still jingling in their pockets. And plenty of other potential guests not even bothering to show up at all.

As part of a big update, I'd like to see them turn the lights on inside of the mountain and put in an actual show scene with ice caves and lots of theming.

 

[EagleScout610]

Some updates i'd like to see in E:E

• Updated yeti temple lights and new effect
• MIST
• Possibly smaller yeti AA in the backwards drop. He could claw at your train, making it seem more narrow of an escape
• Shadow updated
• Yeti back in A Mode

 

[captainmoch]

I doubt 99% of the people who ride Everest are aware that the Yeti doesn't move, nonetheless care. Come on, guys.

 

[EagleScout610]

I rode last year and I asked my sister what she thought of the yeti, she said "Oh, the statue at the end?"

 

[KeithVH]

If we're going to fix it, why not a snocone dispenser on the Yeti?

 

[Cesar R M]

No, can't see 7 years and 113 pages dedicated to a hairy legged pirate. I'd bet money that a major fix comes after Avatar opens. Also, note how crowded each park other than AK was over the holidays. Wait times in excess of 2 hours for the e-tickets at each of the other 3 parks. MK had a partial closure, and Studios apparently ran out of parking space. Epcot was wall to wall people on New Year's eve, with long lines virtually everywhere for most of the entire week beforehand.

Yet at AK, it wasn't so bad. There's room for more guests, and it's headliner, EE, wasn't pulling them in. Why? Because its most unique and amazing feature is barely seen. Face it, AK is still a partial day park for most people, but a truly super EE would not only keep guests there longer, thousands more would be showing up everyday. And guests might book an extra day in the hotels to justify a full AK day. And guests would buy far more merch and eat far more meals on property.

A broken EE is the definition of lost opportunity for cashflow and profits, yet some on this thread want us to believe that Disney doesn't care. Of course they care, but they won't shut it down until Avatar is up and running,. A mediocre EE is better than no EE given the relative mediocrity of the rest of the park right now. Dinosaur is cool, but who rides it more than once? Festival of the Lion King is great, but nobody thinks of going twice. The actual animals are wonderful, but not much different from many zoos around the world. Kali is basically the same as dozens of other splash rides, only with good theming. Bug, Dinoland and Nemo are nice, but hardly headlining. Face it, without EE, AK is not that awe-inspiring, and with a mediocre EE, the park attendance surely suffers.

Of course, there's no way to prove this, but logic and common sense surely point to this syllogism:
1. EE would take a serious shutdown to fix.
2. A fully working EE would pull in great crowds and be very profitable for the company.
3. A mediocre EE is good, but a non-EE Animal Kingdom is a very mediocre park.
4. ERGO: Disney will continue with mediocre EE until the time is ripe for a full shutdown.
5. The opening of Avatar will ripen the time for the shutdown.
6. Until Avatar opens, mediocre EE will still help bring in enough guests to keep AK from being irrelevant.

Just to prove the point, it's 3:30 on January 3rd, and each of the other 3 parks has at least 2 attractions with 60+ minute waits. At AK it's 45 minutes for EE, while Kilimanjaro and Dinosaur lead the rest of the pack with 10 minutes. Meanwhile, the electricity is still on and hundreds of CMs are working there. A great EE would keep guests there. While the thrill-seekers wait to ride EE again, the rest of the family rides something else, goes shopping, or grabs a snack. A medicore EE is a ride-once-and-leave moment. And leave they do, with plenty of money still jingling in their pockets. And plenty of other potential guests not even bothering to show up at all.

Not crowded?
lol, you were not here, were you?
I was on AK on the 2nd and it was packed to hell.
IT was hard to move from certain parts... Festival of the lion king had a 2 hour wait which is insane for a show that eats so much people. the line went beyond the bathrooms and turned around..
It didnt helped that Dinosaur collapsed midday. (and took my FP with it )

All fps were gone and had long waits except Kali.
But then, the morning temps were 9C. And rainy.

Also, I always wonder why a lot of people in this forum just rate the parks based on their coasters.

Anyway I agree with the rest of you.
But I dont think we will see EE closing until.. 6 months or a year later after avatar.
It might attract larger crowds and the load will still be hard on EE.

 

[Ralphlaw]

Yeah, everything's crowded, but AK is far far less crowded than the other parks on those crowded days. Just compare the AK wait times with MK, Epcot and Studios. Again, a quick look at the wait times on the afternoon of January 3rd is very telling. A fully working and amazing EE would pull in more people and keep them there longer. I would assume that nearly everyday would tell the same story.

Money is not coming to Disney because of the non-working yeti, which means that it is super obvious that the bigwigs at Disney would want a fully functioning EE. Any insidious theory to the contrary, with all due respect, is preposterous.

 

[Ralphlaw]

I doubt 99% of the people who ride Everest are aware that the Yeti doesn't move, nonetheless care. Come on, guys.

When EE first opened, a bunch of us got there at rope drop and rode it 3 times in a row, coming back later in the afternoon for our paper fastpasses and sticking around at the end for an extra standby line. The yeti is the climax. You only see it for a second, but the whole ride builds up to it. It started with the marketing, the buzz, the promotion, the billboards, the line, and the "artifacts". And the yeti related merch flew off the shelves. Again, it's not like a stationary hairy legged pirate; it's the ultimate climax to AK's headlining attraction. Without it, yeah, it's a pretty good ride. But with it, it's an experience that you talk about, text about, and mark down as a big part of your trip.

I just got back with my family plus an exchange student. Yesterday morning, we each made a list of our top ten favorite things at WDW. Other thrill rides made the lists, but EE was noticeably absent. No one named it. With the yeti, I guarantee it would have been on them.