Expedition Everest broken track effect removed?

pumpkin7

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Watching that video, you can see the passion and excitement of the Imagineers who worked on the Yeti. They must know about this, but I guess they have no say in the matter.
I'd be gutted putting that much effort, heart and soul into something, just to watch it get Yeti bashed on forums like these. Especially the guy with the crazy earring. You'd think the big cheeses would be a little freaked out by him and just do what he told them!
Either way, if it weren't for this forum, I would never have known the Yeti was broken, nor would I have noticed the track damage. Missing, yes, damage contained within, no.
 

Cesar R M

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Not sure I get the relevance/connection. A machine sitting idle for a long time is a lot different than empty/vacant land.
It is very relevant, you were using the cracked foundation as excuse for not fixing it for so many years.
Then I remind you that the parks were stagnant for a lot of time as well.
so the excuse itself wasnt very valid... as the parks were getting the same treatment.
 

WDWDad13

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Removal of the Yeti is one thing, but if the foundation is indeed cracked as rumored, that's a whole other deal. From what I understand, it's on a separate foundation footing from the mountain and coaster, but it's in a very tight, enclosed space, so getting to it to perform the needed repairs aren't as simple as just a patch job. I would venture to guess it would require a re-work/build of the foundation, which would require a sinificant amount of removal of key infrastructure of both the mountain and coaster track. Of course, that's all just speculation, but considering the fact that it has sat idle for so long leads me to believe it's not a simple fix.

If that is truly the case, built in a tight place and they can't get to it for major repairs, then that is a poor design in my opinion
 

natatomic

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If anyone is riding today, look out for it. I only rode once on Thursday. The Yeti appeared to have limited movement and seemed much scarier. I wasn't looking out movement which is why I'm not 100% sure. Since I know now that they are doing maintenance on Everest it's very possible that some testing might have been going on with movement on the yeti as well.

(Keep in mind I say this as someone who wants the Yeti to be returned to it's original A-mode one day...)

You all realize that "thinking you saw the arm move" is the strobe effect (that everyone hates) doing it's job, right? ;)
 

natatomic

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This is the event I was thinking about... And now that I looked it up, I had my facts wrong. Multiple injuries, some serious... But no deaths. The Big Thunder death was at DL, not DLP. I had my two BTMRR incidents crossed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/a...-Paris-injured-Big-Thunder-Mountain-ride.html

But it was after this event that the boulders were turned off at the other BTMRR's... Which proves my point with the lawyers and what happens after these kinds of things... Which is really the point I was making.

I'm not 100% sure, but I STILL don't think boulders move at the BTMRR's, do they? I know the lanterns do, at least at DL... Which are small, and it would make sense because there's little risk of major injury. I also think that's why they've added video effects in the cave, to compensate. It's BTMRR's version of the strobe light and fans.

Between their reaction on the other BTMRR's and the WDW monorail system, I fully believe what I suggested to be the case.

Also, a boulder fell on top of a train at WDW. I can't remember if it was before or after DLP, but they were ridiculously close to each other. Super weird coincidence. But no, they'd don't move. I don't think they can anymore.
 

NoChesterHester

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My only worry is.. the structural damage to the yeti (as mentioned with the cracked base), plus the fact that the thing as been immobile for half decade(corrosion..etc..)... makes me fear it is beyond saving or will be VERY costly.

This is my belief as well. It may be beyond repair at this point.
 

Goofyernmost

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This is my belief as well. It may be beyond repair at this point.
Anything that can be built from scratch is never beyond repair physically. It can easily be beyond repair financially in their minds, but, when I hear that something is broken and cannot be repaired, I cringe. They used that excuse about 14 years ago when they closed down CoP. The word was that the parts were worn that worked the revolving theater and they were no longer made. Bull, when they originally built CoP there was nothing like it in existence and yet they managed to BUILD it anyway and it worked. We have machine shops that can make the most intricate of parts for whatever need to have and you're going to tell me that it can't be repaired. Not buying it. They just don't want to repair it and they feel that since most people these days are not mechanically inclined, they can blow smoke up their skirts and everyone will walk away saying... well, if it can't be fixed, it can't be fixed.
 
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GrumpyFan

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It is very relevant, you were using the cracked foundation as excuse for not fixing it for so many years.
Then I remind you that the parks were stagnant for a lot of time as well.
so the excuse itself wasnt very valid... as the parks were getting the same treatment.

Like it or not, these are financial decisions.
Not building anything is just a cyclical thing sometimes financial, sometimes just the nature of the business, but still financially motivated.
Not fixing Yeti is definitely financially related. If the ride still works and guest safety isn't effected, why fix it? Sure, show quality is diminished from the original intent, but they can still operate and only a small percentage of guests actually know there is a problem.
These aren't excuses, they're reasons. I don't like it either and wish they would fix it. However, I think If it were an easy fix, it would have been adressed already.
 

Cesar R M

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Anything that can be built from scratch is never beyond repair physically. It can easily be beyond repair financially in their minds, but, when I hear that something is broken and cannot be repaired, I cringe. They used that excuse about 14 years ago when they closed down CoP. The word was that the parts were worn that worked the revolving theater and they were no longer made. Bull, when they originally built CoP there was nothing like it in existence and yet they managed to BUILD it anyway and it worked. We have machine shops that can make the most intricate of parts for whatever need we have and you're going to tell me that it can't be repaired. Not buying it. They just don't want to repair it and they feel that since most people these days are not mechanically inclined, they can blow smoke up their skirts and everyone will walk away saying... well, if it can't be fixed, it can't be fixed.

Probably they might be in a paradox moment.

The Yeti due of being too much time unused and with a cracked foundation.. will require a big investment to fix fully.
And building a newer more lighter Yeti is also an option due of the costs of repairing (aka old one costs too much to repair, might be more convenient to just build A NEW ONE with lighter mechanical parts)
 

MonorailMan

Active Member
Probably they might be in a paradox moment.

The Yeti due of being too much time unused and with a cracked foundation.. will require a big investment to fix fully.
And building a newer more lighter Yeti is also an option due of the costs of repairing (aka old one costs too much to repair, might be more convenient to just build A NEW ONE with lighter mechanical parts)
Building a lighter Yeti is completely possibly with the new technology we have now, but to build a new yeti, take to old one out, and then put the new one in would require so much work. A new yeti would still require a foundation, so they would either have to build a new foundation or fix the old one. And if they build a new one, likely the old one will have to be torn out. And all of this work would require the ride to be closed for the entire duration of taking the old yeti out and installing the new one. It could easily take a month if not longer.
 

MickeyPeace

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(Keep in mind I say this as someone who wants the Yeti to be returned to it's original A-mode one day...)

You all realize that "thinking you saw the arm move" is the strobe effect (that everyone hates) doing it's job, right? ;)
I've only ridden with the strobe. Never seen the original . That's why this ride was different. It wasn't the same.
 

GrumpyFan

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Original Poster
It's not beyond repair. It is fixable, and there is a plan to fix it.
This brings up two questions.
1) Is there a time frame in which they're looking to do the work?
2) How long will it take?

I assume at some yet determined point in the future when the attraction is down for extended maintenance. Which brings to mind the question, of whether it has ever been down for extended maintenance since opening? To my knowledge, I don't think it has. In which case, considering it's now over 8 years old, I would think it's approaching, although it does seem that it's still in good condition. As others have speculated, we're probably looking at sometime after Avatar opens, right?
 

articos

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By all means, expand on this if you can (especially timeframe if you have any idea).
Not a lot I can say. Understand, when something like this happens, the company will always figure out what went wrong and will almost always come up with multiple options to fix it as soon as possible. They aren't going to just let it stay broken and not bother with it. If it's not fixed, there's a reason. There have been options/plans to fix Everest's show for a long time. Joe doesn't like his park having a half-working attraction anymore than you do. Getting the fixes pushed through is another matter. There are multiple reasons why it hasn't been fixed, but it should be. Eventually. It's not a matter of not having a fix, it's having the budget/window/will/opportunity to get it done.

This brings up two questions.
1) Is there a time frame in which they're looking to do the work?
2) How long will it take?

I assume at some yet determined point in the future when the attraction is down for extended maintenance. Which brings to mind the question, of whether it has ever been down for extended maintenance since opening? To my knowledge, I don't think it has. In which case, considering it's now over 8 years old, I would think it's approaching, although it does seem that it's still in good condition. As others have speculated, we're probably looking at sometime after Avatar opens, right?

It has not been taken down for a major refurb. I can't give answers to your questions, but I'd say you were on a good track.
 

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