jt04
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I agree. Also, I think they throw so many new offerings out there to test popularity. Then they stick with those IMO.
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Expect more premium events with recent organizational changes
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I agree. Also, I think they throw so many new offerings out there to test popularity. Then they stick with those IMO.
jt04
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I remember having to pay to use most of the public toilets in China. That was a learning experience lol.
Same in Europe. However they often have an attendant keeping the place spotless.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
The problem can be that if these upcharges work then there is less incentive for Disney to invest in additions that directly benefit all guests. They also need to be careful of up charges that in some way negatively impact the guests who are not participating.
Note that I am not opposed to all upcharges, I have personally done and enjoyed the Star Wars desert party.
wdizneew
Well-Known Member
Anyone remember that Disney After Hours ticket?
$149 for 3 extra hours in the park including ice cream and bottled drinks.
jt04
Well-Known Member
Yeah, for that price you should get dinner and fireworks or parade also.
I bet they could even do Villains Unleashed and make money without overselling the tickets to the same insane level.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Disney is choosing the path which includes charging for what used to be included in admission
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
I bet they could even do Villains Unleashed and make money without overselling the tickets to the same insane level.
That was the problem with Villians: too many tickets sold. If they were to do that as a 'semi' regular event but limit the amount of guests to a reasonable level, they would make tons.
ToTBellHop
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How much for a bacon-wrapped hot dog while sitting on the toilet? $20?
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Wait a second, because I want to be sure I understand what you're saying.
You think people might actually like new offerings and opportunities? So much so that they might be willing to pay actual United States dollars to experience them? And, further, that Disney might want to offer more of these opportunities as a way to get more of these United States dollars?
I don't know, seems like a stretch.
21stamps
Well-Known Member
Crazy, right? I can't say for sure..but it appears that (some/a lot) of people like things such as premium parking, fast lane passes at amusement parks, VIP seating, special events, box seats at a sports game.. the ability to do something "different" while at Disney World..
Ya know, things that one can CHOOSE to enhance their experience IF
A. They're interested in the experience.
B. They see value in the experience.
If not-- then they can CHOOSE to not participate in the experience.
Doesn't really sound too complicated..but..lol
The point is, things were previously offered as part of a regular admission are now being charged for as an up-charge event.
Everything that was in Star Wars Galactic Nights was previously included with regular park admission. Once it became a premium experience, it was charged at $130.
Yes everyone can choose, but the point is, Disney is intent on driving short term profits, and to do that, they are increasing guest spending in any way they can, which in many cases takes value away from the guest.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Yeah I really don't understand the mindset of the people who get offended that these things are offered as if they're impacted in some way. I think some of the things are amazing (Behind the Seeds, Wild Africa Trek, fireworks cruises) and other things I'd never even consider (desert parties, early morning magic, Victoria & Albert's), but I don't begrudge Disney just for offering them, nor do I tut-tut at those who disagree with me on what's valuable to them.
When those experiences take away from what you could previously do you should be seeing a problem.
Club 33 is likely going into existing spaces, which will make those spaces unavailable for regular guests.
Those you have highlighted there were done at a time when it wasn't profit ahead of everything else, and it shows. They are quality experiences that really offer something great for the guest. What we are seeing now, and will see more of, is just pure money-grab.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Except the entire concept of a "money-grab" is nonsense. Disney can't, by definition, "grab" your money. It's a voluntary exchange. In order to GET the guest's money, Disney has to GIVE the guest something they want. It's a mutually beneficial transaction.
Guest who participates - Has a new experience (positive for the guest)
Disney - Makes more money (positive for Disney)
Guest who does not participate - Literally nothing happens (neutral)
So these offerings are positive to two parties and neutral to everyone else. Meaning there's literally nothing negative to complain about.
rob0519
Well-Known Member
Any decline could have multiple causes; less international visitors, waiting for Pandora or Star Wars or simple economics of WDW's continual price increases. We used to go twice a year for 5-7 days from about 1996-2003. As the prices rose we cut down to one 5-7 day visit every 12 to 18 months from 2004-2013. We have not visited once since 2013 based on what we feel is no longer a good return on prices charged (onsite lodging, food, merchandise, enjoyability of the parks due to over crowding etc.). I'm sure we're not the only family that are no longer regular customers.
Lets Respect
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It doesn't matter what they come up with, or what previously-included experience it takes away, swarms of deranged Disney fanatics will defend it to the death and get up at 4 am in the morning to book it