Animaniac93-98
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Everybody loves a good whataboutism.
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News Expect closure of Hong Kong Disneyland and Shanghai Disneyland to impact Walt Disney World
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Everybody loves a good whataboutism.
It's just to show the sensationalism that is going in the media and the level of panic created. More click$. You have unbridled speculation being substituted for facts. And the facts that are out about something which can be considered comparable are just ignored because it isn't a profitable $tory for the media.
Jrn14
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I think you might be under playing this...maybe not as deadly but they don't shut down cities, close boarders, and quarantine hotels and cruise ships over the yearly flu strain.
The flu is a serious health problem, but so is COVID. The morality rate from flu is 6%, the morality rate from covid is currently 2-3% going off Chinese numbers which are suspect. There also is early signs that you can reinfected less then a month later and that reinfection can be much more severe. Also 48% mortality if you require ICU care. We just don’t know enough about covid yet and it’s human nature to fear the unknown more. Remember the swine flu 10 years ago? Best case scenario COVID hits the world like that, but this could be far more deadly.
Josh Hendy
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it's good to be skeptical about the media but in this case, there are actually sensational things happening. Most of the stories I've seen are sourced from the WHO, CDC and similar organizations...such as infection rates, death rates etc.
The financial repercussions are likewise being touted by major financial organizations and very large companies and not being fabricated by bloggers AFAICT.
kthomas105
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The flu and COVID-19 are immoral!
But on a serious note the biggest danger in differences between the two is the long period of incubation in host. For COVID-19 incubation takes, potentially, greater that 14 days (studies ongoing) the flu is just 2 days of incubation. The length to show signs and symptoms of infection coupled with test kits that are only 40% reliable means the spread of COVID-19 occurs with out recognition. It is certain that sensationalism plays a role in all of this but their is still much that is unknown about the virus.
Here is a great tracker from Johns Hopkins for those interested. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Based on the latest figures at the time of this posting the mortality rate is figured at 3.4% for COVID-19 world wide. But keep in mind the majority of that sample is in Asia and the majority of those confirmed with the disease are still actively infected.
Every news outlet ranging from all ends of the political spectrum from The Washington Post to Fox News have fallen into the blackhole of sensationalizing the story based on nothing but speculation and fear. While organizations like CDC and WHO can give statistics and fact based information, the interpretation and speculation done on the part of the media do the most damage. One of the lead stories on the WP right now is canceling the 2020 Summer Olympics purely based on worst case speculation. You have an influx of Tabloid style reporting at media outlets which used to be fact based. But crazy $peculation leads to click$.
kthomas105
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I agree with that statement as most expect the Olympics to continue as scheduled, even those interviewed in that story. The only reason to run the story is for the perspective of "look how bad this could be"
Many of the objective statements presented here about this virus have been directly from the CDC. The CDC does not trot out their level 3 ‘avoid non essential travel’ warning lightly. Today, they are showing China and South Korea as a level 3. Japan and Italy both are listed as level 2.
Given the trajectory of this so far, numbers have only gone up. It’s reasonable to begin discussing the possibility of Japan being declared a level 3, and If it were to be, it would be very appropriate to discuss the cancellation or postponement of the Olympics along with the same impacts that travel warning has already meant for tourist sites in China and South Korea.
Nubs70
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Just a little observation from my small window on the world.
One of my customers makes medical gown base material that is shipped to China for converting. My customer has not made any of the usual order for this month as the Chinese converters are shut down.
IanDLBZF
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SF Mayor London Breed Declares Local Emergency Amid Coronavirus Outbreak
Mayor London Breed declared a local emergency in San Francisco Tuesday amid the coronavirus outbreak, despite there being no confirmed cases among the city’s residents. “Although there are still zero confirmed cases in San Francisco residents, the global picture is changing rapidly, and we need...
www.nbcbayarea.com
CDC warns Americans of 'significant disruption' from coronavirus
The White House is requesting $1.25 billion in emergency funding from Congress as part of a total commitment of $2.5 billion to fight the novel coronavirus.
abcnews.go.com
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IanDLBZF
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Not just Disneyland Paris, but Europa and Alton Towers could be hit if they have to close should COVID-19 reaches those locations as well.
UNCgolf
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If you ever see a news story with a headline that ends in a question mark, it's safe to ignore that story. The answer to the question in the headline is always no with a bunch of "well, maybe if..." hypotheticals thrown in to pad out the length.
lazyboy97o
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Why those two parks that are already closed for another month?
IanDLBZF
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It’s their off season, the later opens next week.
Also, Disney is monitoring CMs who traveled to Italy.
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Disney World officials say theyâre keeping close eye on workers who traveled to Italy amid coronavirus outbreak
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — Walt Disney World officials said they are keeping a close eye on cast members who traveled to Italy amid the coronavirus outbreak.
www.wftv.com
Disstevefan1
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Bobby, I just heard about your promotion!!! CONGRATULATIONS
Now you will have full control to cut costs everywhere; slash budgets, cut all park improvements, cut staff, reduce quality, all while raising prices on EVERYTHING!!!What a great thing for the most important entity, the Disney shareholder.
That's what Chapek mentioned in the CNBC interview, the Disney shareholder. If the stock performance is poor, his CEO reign will be a short one.Bobby, I just heard about your promotion!!! CONGRATULATIONS
What a great thing for the most important entity, the Disney shareholder.
disneyflush
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If someone was confirmed to have the virus in WDW tomorrow and it hit the news would the parks be closed down or would that person be dealt with individually? Assuming there is a plan in place in WDW and certain things trigger actionable responses.