Epcot vs. EPCOT Center: YOU Decide!

What would you name the park?

  • Epcot

    Votes: 17 24.3%
  • EPCOT Center

    Votes: 53 75.7%

  • Total voters
    70

jdmdisney99

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Some of us have fond recollections of the past, and potentially glorious days of the park now know as Epcot, when it was purely known as EPCOT Center, showcasing the finest things on Earth. To others, the park is a new gateway to the industrial future and the people of the world as of today, but under the simplified name. So, the question is, if you were in charge of the parks, would you leave the name Epcot (as in Experimental Prototype Community Of Tomorrow) or rename the park as EPCOT Center (a branch of Walt's idea that once was)? In my opinion, it should be renamed back to EPCOT Center. It isn't Epcot, and it is somewhat disrespectful to Walt's final wish. Telling people this was Walt's community of tomorrow is wrong, as it could have been so much more. But the name EPCOT Center told us that this idea stemmed from Walt's original concepts into a showcase of human ability. But that's just me. What do you think?
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jdmdisney99

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I believe your question is phrased wrong EPCOT with all caps was an abbreviation for the name, while Epcot is just a name. In its current state I like just Epcot.
I simply spelled it how it was/is officially lettered. You are right. EPCOT is an abbreviation for Walt's vision. That's why it was called EPCOT Center. It was a variation with the core ideals of said vision. Epcot© is just a name, used to simplify it and dumb it down in the '90s, but harkens to the original concept, which it is not.
 

Jim Chandler

Well-Known Member
EPCOT or EPCOT Center is not even close to what Walt envisioned. EPCOT does not have people working and living in it as Walt first envisioned. There was no countries as there is now........................So you may want the original name but the original name has NO relation to what is currently there.

WIKI: EPCOT is an acronym of Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow, a Utopian city of the future planned by Walt Disney, often interchanging "city" and "community." In Walt Disney's words: "EPCOT will take its cue from the new ideas and new technologies that are now emerging from the creative centers of American industry. It will be a community of tomorrow that will never be completed, but will always be introducing, and testing, and demonstrating new materials and new systems. And EPCOT will always be a showcase to the world of the ingenuity and imagination of American free enterprise."[5] His original vision was for a model community, home to twenty thousand residents, which would be a test bed for city planning and organization. It was to have been built in the shape of a circle, with businesses and commercial areas at its center, community buildings, schools, and recreational complexes around it, and residential neighborhoods along the perimeter. Transportation would have been provided by monorails and PeopleMovers (like that in Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland.) Automobile traffic would be kept underground, leaving pedestrians safe above ground. The original model of EPCOT can still be seen by passengers riding the Tomorrowland Transit Authority attraction in the Magic Kingdom park; when the PeopleMover enters the showhouse for Stitch's Great Escape!, the remaining portion of the model is visible on the left (when facing forward) behind glass. Walt Disney was not able to obtain funding and permission to start work on his Florida property until he agreed to first build Magic Kingdom. He died nearly five years before Magic Kingdom opened..
After Disney's death, The Walt Disney Company decided that it did not want to be in the business of running a city without Walt's guidance. The model community of Celebration, Florida has been mentioned as a realization of Disney's original vision, but Celebration is based on concepts of new urbanism which is radically different from Disney's modernist and futurist visions. However, the idea of EPCOT was instrumental in prompting the state of Florida to create the Reedy Creek Improvement District (RCID) and the Cities of Bay Lake and Reedy Creek (now Lake Buena Vista), a legislative mechanism allowing the Walt Disney Company to exercise governmental powers over Walt Disney World. Control over the RCID is vested in the landowners of the district, and the promise of an actual city in the district would have meant that the powers of the RCID would have been distributed among the landowners in EPCOT. Because the idea of EPCOT was never implemented, the Disney Corporation remained almost the sole landowner in the district allowing it to maintain control of the RCID and the cities of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista; Disney further cemented this control by deannexing Celebration from the RCID.

The original plans for the park showed indecision over the park's purpose. Some Imagineers wanted it to represent the cutting edge of technology, while others wanted it to showcase international cultures and customs. At one point, a model of the futuristic park was pushed together against a model of a World's Fair international theme, and the two were combined. The park was originally named EPCOT Center to reflect the ideals and values of the city. It was constructed for an estimated $800 million to $1.4 billion and took three years to build, at the time the largest construction project on Earth.[6] The parking lot serving the park is 141 acres (57.1 ha) (including bus area) and can accommodate 11,211 vehicles (grass areas hold additional 500+ vehicles). Before it opened on October 1, 1982, Walt Disney World Ambassador Genie Field introduced E. Cardon Walker, Disney's chairman and CEO, who dedicated EPCOT Center. Walker also presented a family with lifetime passes for the two Walt Disney World theme parks. His remarks were followed by Florida Governor Bob Graham and William Ellinghouse, president of AT&T.
 

jdmdisney99

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
EPCOT or EPCOT Center is not even close to what Walt envisioned. EPCOT does not have people working and living in it as Walt first envisioned. There was no countries as there is now........................So you may want the original name but the original name has NO relation to what is currently there.

WIKI: EPCOT is an acronym of Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow, a Utopian city of the future planned by Walt Disney, often interchanging "city" and "community." In Walt Disney's words: "EPCOT will take its cue from the new ideas and new technologies that are now emerging from the creative centers of American industry. It will be a community of tomorrow that will never be completed, but will always be introducing, and testing, and demonstrating new materials and new systems. And EPCOT will always be a showcase to the world of the ingenuity and imagination of American free enterprise."[5] His original vision was for a model community, home to twenty thousand residents, which would be a test bed for city planning and organization. It was to have been built in the shape of a circle, with businesses and commercial areas at its center, community buildings, schools, and recreational complexes around it, and residential neighborhoods along the perimeter. Transportation would have been provided by monorails and PeopleMovers (like that in Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland.) Automobile traffic would be kept underground, leaving pedestrians safe above ground. The original model of EPCOT can still be seen by passengers riding the Tomorrowland Transit Authority attraction in the Magic Kingdom park; when the PeopleMover enters the showhouse for Stitch's Great Escape!, the remaining portion of the model is visible on the left (when facing forward) behind glass. Walt Disney was not able to obtain funding and permission to start work on his Florida property until he agreed to first build Magic Kingdom. He died nearly five years before Magic Kingdom opened..
After Disney's death, The Walt Disney Company decided that it did not want to be in the business of running a city without Walt's guidance. The model community of Celebration, Florida has been mentioned as a realization of Disney's original vision, but Celebration is based on concepts of new urbanism which is radically different from Disney's modernist and futurist visions. However, the idea of EPCOT was instrumental in prompting the state of Florida to create the Reedy Creek Improvement District (RCID) and the Cities of Bay Lake and Reedy Creek (now Lake Buena Vista), a legislative mechanism allowing the Walt Disney Company to exercise governmental powers over Walt Disney World. Control over the RCID is vested in the landowners of the district, and the promise of an actual city in the district would have meant that the powers of the RCID would have been distributed among the landowners in EPCOT. Because the idea of EPCOT was never implemented, the Disney Corporation remained almost the sole landowner in the district allowing it to maintain control of the RCID and the cities of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista; Disney further cemented this control by deannexing Celebration from the RCID.

The original plans for the park showed indecision over the park's purpose. Some Imagineers wanted it to represent the cutting edge of technology, while others wanted it to showcase international cultures and customs. At one point, a model of the futuristic park was pushed together against a model of a World's Fair international theme, and the two were combined. The park was originally named EPCOT Center to reflect the ideals and values of the city. It was constructed for an estimated $800 million to $1.4 billion and took three years to build, at the time the largest construction project on Earth.[6] The parking lot serving the park is 141 acres (57.1 ha) (including bus area) and can accommodate 11,211 vehicles (grass areas hold additional 500+ vehicles). Before it opened on October 1, 1982, Walt Disney World Ambassador Genie Field introduced E. Cardon Walker, Disney's chairman and CEO, who dedicated EPCOT Center. Walker also presented a family with lifetime passes for the two Walt Disney World theme parks. His remarks were followed by Florida Governor Bob Graham and William Ellinghouse, president of AT&T.
Exactly. I'm saying the name Epcot plays it out to be something that it is not, while EPCOT Center is an honest term describing the park's core ideals that originated in the city (showcasing industries' rising technologies and allowing residents/guests to roam the streets of the world).
 

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
Personally, I could give two hoots what it's called. EPCOT vs. Epcot vs. EPCOT Center or any variation.

Change back to the old mission of the park. The park that focused on education, entertainment, dreaming, imagining, hoping, learning, understanding new technology... the list could go on and on. The park that sought to inspire people to think and dream and work towards a better future.

Call it "Bobby Iger's Happy Funpark" for all I care, just fix the actual park itself.
 

wolf359

Well-Known Member
While I still usually want to type EPCOT Center out of habit and a fondness for the original identity, the fact is the park is now called Epcot. But I also completely agree with the idea that the issue isn't the name, as much as the content. I'd rather push for getting the park back on track as a fun, vibrant, and cutting edge place to visit than quibble over the name.
 

Graham9

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure changing names will accomplish anything except create expenditure which could be used on building/upgrading other things. Everyone calls it Epcot, why change it to something else?
 

cheezbat

Well-Known Member
Always liked the Epcot Center name better. It looks better written that way when alongside the other parks:

Magic Kingdom
Epcot Center
Hollywood Studios
Animal Kingdom

Or:

Magic Kingdom
EPCOT
Hollywood Studios
Animal Kingdom

What do you think?
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
Always liked the Epcot Center name better. It looks better written that way when alongside the other parks:

Magic Kingdom
Epcot Center
Hollywood Studios
Animal Kingdom

Or:

Magic Kingdom
EPCOT
Hollywood Studios
Animal Kingdom

What do you think?

It's Better this way...
Magic Kingdom
Epcot Center
Disney/MGM Studios
Animal Kingdom
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
Lets just say I liked the standards and ideas behind what was EPCOT Center much better than what it has become...

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

William Shakespeare

Yep.

And i personally would not want to see the Park renamed 'EPCOT Center' until it is able to retain that previous level of inspiration, quality, and overall epic scope in tone and presentation.

The current version of the Park needs to work it's way up to that 'honor' of being renamed 'EPCOT Center'.
 

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