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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Po'Rich

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More photos I just took of The Boneyard demolition from this afternoon (9/23).
All of the old rockwork for the play area was removed, revealing the foundations below:
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Refer back to this report from 4 days ago (9/19) to see the aforementioned rockwork:
My son lost a Star Wars pin in the boneyard in 2014. Now that everything has been removed, could someone please check to see if it's still there? He'd be thrilled to have it back. Thanks in advance.
 

Gremlin Gus

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With this being the day Antonio gets his gift, it means they have handcuffed some potential story issues. Bruno cannot interact with anyone (that starts tomorrow) and Mirabel hasn’t started her investigation (So Luisa’s powers aren’t on the fritz and she knows nothing about Bruno other then he exists.) I really wonder why they anchored the entire ride at this time, either should have done a book report, or done a sequel ride.
The issue with doing a book report retelling of the movie is that remember, this is a ride in Animal Kingdom, it's going to have to connect to animals and/or nature somehow which the movie itself really doesn't. A sequel ride could work, but seeing as that would have to mean if an Encanto 2 ever happens, the ride has to work with that as well (and connect to animals and/or nature).

The ride would also be a good opportunity to show some rooms that weren't featured in the movie

Pepita's weather room could make for a great theme park experience
Ok spoilers for the ride: I have seen all the show scenes (and this could change if there are any major changes in the ride), and all the show scenes in the ride are all location that we've seen in the movie, so there really isn't anything new in terms of new locations that I can tell.

Though as mentioned by lentesta before, Pepa will apparently get a scene in the ride, though it's not in her room)
 
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BlakeW39

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I also want a North America section. Feel they could replace the train with it behind Africa and Asia. Give me bears, deer, and more. With a Bambi ride or something.

A quote from Joe Rohde when asked about why they don't exhibit North American animals at Disney's Animal Kingdom:

"We tried to keep to animals that would thrive in the semitropical environment of Florida. And many of the animals that make America famous require a more temperate climate. Also, the American animals that do thrive in Florida are running around in the forest just outside the park."

So the idea was considered, but ultimately decided against. I do think it might have been cool though.

Personally I always wanted to see a something themed to the islands. You could relocate EPCOT's aquarial animals to DAK and have a land focused on sea life. However Tropical Americas does feel like a decent choice. Just not a fan of the no-animals aspect.
 
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Brer Panther

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The issue with doing a book report retelling of the movie is that remember, this is a ride in Animal Kingdom, it's going to have to connect to animals and/or nature somehow which the movie itself really doesn't.
It's almost like maybe an Encanto attraction doesn't actually belong in Animal Kingdom?
A quote from Joe Rohde when asked about why they don't exhibit North American animals at Disney's Animal Kingdom:

"We tried to keep to animals that would thrive in the semitropical environment of Florida. And many of the animals that make America famous require a more temperate climate. Also, the American animals that do thrive in Florida are running around in the forest just outside the park."

So the idea was considered, but ultimately decided against. I do think it might have been cool though.

Personally I always wanted to see a something themed to the islands. You could relocate EPCOT's aquarial animals to DAK and have a land focused on sea life. However Tropical Americas does feel like a decent choice. Just not a fan of the no-animals aspect.
What about Australia? I imagine they couldn't do an arctic land for the same reason they couldn't do a North America land - those animals probably wouldn't be able to handle the Florida climate.
 

gerarar

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The remaining rolling planters covering The Boneyard area have been replaced overnight with construction walls.
Photos from today (9/24):
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Gusey

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A quote from Joe Rohde when asked about why they don't exhibit North American animals at Disney's Animal Kingdom:

"We tried to keep to animals that would thrive in the semitropical environment of Florida. And many of the animals that make America famous require a more temperate climate. Also, the American animals that do thrive in Florida are running around in the forest just outside the park."

So the idea was considered, but ultimately decided against. I do think it might have been cool though.

Personally I always wanted to see a something themed to the islands. You could relocate EPCOT's aquarial animals to DAK and have a land focused on sea life. However Tropical Americas does feel like a decent choice. Just not a fan of the no-animals aspect.
For a time, they had the Pocahontas show, with raccoons, porcupines and birds from North America, but it wasn't that popular and closed within AK's first 10 years, before any plans to close the now permanent Camp Minnie Mickey
 

Gusey

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probably because it is owned and operated by WDC. Unique things that are not duplicated elsewhere tends to only happen in Tokyo.
It would still be nice for DLP to get 1 unique ride now Epcot added Ratatouille. Disneyland Resort has: Matterhorn, the Submarines, Incredicoaster, Alice in Wonderland and Mr Toad. WDW has: Flight of Passage, Kilimanjaro Safaris, Expedition Everest, Slinky Dog Dash, Cosmic Rewind & Mission Space. DLP only has Crush at the moment, and soon Lion King
 

BlakeW39

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It's almost like maybe an Encanto attraction doesn't actually belong in Animal Kingdom?

What about Australia? I imagine they couldn't do an arctic land for the same reason they couldn't do a North America land - those animals probably wouldn't be able to handle the Florida climate.

Australia could work as well. However then you run into the question of IP. Disney has many popular Neotropical IPs. But they only have one popular Australian IP. So TA becomes the obvious choice for them. I would love to see them stray away from this obsession but I think we both know that's not gonna happen, lol

For a time, they had the Pocahontas show, with raccoons, porcupines and birds from North America, but it wasn't that popular and closed within AK's first 10 years, before any plans to close the now permanent Camp Minnie Mickey

Yep, there is also a bald eagle in Flights of Wonder, and the American crocodile in Dinoland was also native to the US (Florida at that).
 

Gremlin Gus

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It's almost like maybe an Encanto attraction doesn't actually belong in Animal Kingdom?
While I do wish the Encanto attraction was somewhere else like at the World Pavillion at EPCOT, I do understand why they put it here at AK as AK really does need another reliable and appealing dark ride and Encanto does fit that decently well. Another issue with putting it in EPCOT is that there really isn't that much space to work with assuming we're putting it in the World Showcase and we're keeping it's 65,000 sqft showbuilding space. So while yeah I wish Encanto went to World Showcase, I do have hope that maybe they can pull it off at AK.
Australia could work as well. However then you run into the question of IP. Disney has many popular Neotropical IPs. But they only have one popular Australian IP. So TA becomes the obvious choice for them. I would love to see them stray away from this obsession but I think we both know that's not gonna happen, lol
Idk if they'll do it, but maybe they could change a possible Australia land to more of a "Pacific Ocean" themed land as that would open up a lot more IP's to that land instead of limiting it to just Australia. Though I do wish the IP mandate was more lax IMO.
 

mysto

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While I do wish the Encanto attraction was somewhere else like at the World Pavillion at EPCOT, I do understand why they put it here at AK as AK really does need another reliable and appealing dark ride and Encanto does fit that decently well.

AK does have an "aesthetic theme" of lush tropical growth throughout, it is one of the things that AK lovers enjoy. Tropical Americas fits that aesthetic theme very well.
 

Brer Panther

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Australia could work as well. However then you run into the question of IP. Disney has many popular Neotropical IPs. But they only have one popular Australian IP. So TA becomes the obvious choice for them. I would love to see them stray away from this obsession but I think we both know that's not gonna happen, lol
Y'know what they should do? Make an animated film taking place in Australia, focusing on the wildlife. There aren't that many animated films about the outback fauna. Give it a smart release date and good promotion and if it's successful enough, they can use it as the anchor for an Australia land.
AK really does need another reliable and appealing dark ride
It does, but there are more fitting IPs that could fill that void. Off the top of my head, The Lion King, The Jungle Book, Up, Ice Age, even Rio.
So while yeah I wish Encanto went to World Showcase, I do have hope that maybe they can pull it off at AK.
If World Showcase is off the table, where else could it go? I suppose it miiiiiiiight work in Adventureland.
Idk if they'll do it, but maybe they could change a possible Australia land to more of a "Pacific Ocean" themed land as that would open up a lot more IP's to that land instead of limiting it to just Australia. Though I do wish the IP mandate was more lax IMO.
I feel like adding a "Pacific Ocean" land to Animal Kingdom would just give them an excuse to put Moana and Lilo and Stitch there, and neither of those IPs belong in Animal Kingdom (I'd argue they fit even less than Encanto, which at least has Antonio).
 

James Alucobond

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Crumbly old buildings shouldn't be the theme Disney uses to choose what fits.
Indiana Jones and Ecanto are examples of Disney forcing something to fit.
The IP mandate will continue. Even with a regime change, it’s highly unlikely that you’ll end up with anyone in charge with the vision to course correct. Maybe they’ll eventually back off at EPCOT, but not at the other three.

That being the case, this is probably the best possible outcome. You have an IP-free land consistent with the structure of the rest of the park with a broad regional theme that can easily accommodate future replacements or expansions already within the Disney canon. The IP selections aren’t “perfect”, but they almost never will be in this model. I’ll take this over the single-IP lands and/or IP facade conglomerations that seem to be the only real alternatives on offer.
 

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