News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

TheMaxRebo

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Jrb1979 said:
IMO it's the stupidest way to look at it. That to me was how not to use data. Each park IMO should be getting a new attraction every 4 years.

For example, since MK just got Tron and Epcot got Guardians, then the next new attraction should be AK followed by DHS. Continue with that cycle.

All I hear is that outside of MK the reason for long waits or people leaving early is there is not enough to do. That tells me there is not enough attractions in each park. In their mind as long as each guest gets 7.3 attractions per day then the data is satisfied
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They look at it as Return on Investment - so how much demand does an attraction cause people to pay for a park ticket, stay longer in the park (to spend more money while there), to pay for G+/ILL, etc

So if 5 attractions in one park do the same as 20 attractions in another, then they are fine with just 5. So I think more $ driven data is their focus
 
lazyboy97o

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UNCgolf

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lazyboy97o said:
Not in terms of a net increase in attractions or capacity. Redoing a ride that’s already using its capacity doesn’t somehow give it more capacity. You’ve just spent money to have the same result, the capacity being utilized.
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It's strange that they haven't touched Imagination considering it actually isn't using its capacity on at least some days (probably most days).

Nemo is in this boat too, but they can't do much else with that space anyways.
 
ToTBellHop

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UNCgolf said:
It's so strange that they haven't touched Imagination (or Nemo, for that matter) considering those are two rides that actually aren't using their capacity on at least some days (probably most days).
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Figment, in particular (the Seas aquaria are at least very popular regardless of the ride). And they keep using Figgy as a park mascot.
 
UNCgolf

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ToTBellHop said:
Figment, in particular (the Seas aquaria are at least very popular regardless of the ride). And they keep using Figgy as a park mascot.
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Yeah, you quoted before I finished editing!

Nemo is in a weird spot because that location was never intended to function as a standalone attraction, and any options there are severely limited by the aquarium itself.

It was a dumb idea from the start -- it would have made more sense to add a Nemo attraction behind/beside the existing building that didn't have such extreme limitations if they were desperate for one there.
 
Tha Realest

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UNCgolf said:
It's strange that they haven't touched Imagination considering it actually isn't using its capacity on at least some days (probably most days).

Nemo is in this boat too, but they can't do much else with that space anyways.
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That presumes they really care about maximizing useful capacity.
 
No Name

No Name

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Bocabear said:
it all reads like the Animal kingdom needs more capacity...if you add new attractions you will add more capacity, but now the new attractions will draw more visitors which will add more people to the park further lowering the capacity... So what is it then> Add more attractions to balance out the park? Don't add more attractions and leave the park unbalanced because that is better somehow? It can't be both ways....
An underbuilt park is always going to have capacity issues until there are enough attractions...enough things to do...
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Any increased attendance ultimately balances out over time after they raise prices, add to other parks, cut back on things, let things age, etc. Pandora resulted in probably the biggest attendance increase in the resort’s history so it can’t be any worse than that. On the other hand, the increased capacity is much more permanent.
 
JD80

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lazyboy97o said:
Not in terms of a net increase in attractions or capacity. Redoing a ride that’s already using its capacity doesn’t somehow give it more capacity. You’ve just spent money to have the same result, the capacity being utilized.
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Primeval Whirl no longer exists so it's added capacity compared to today.
 
JD80

JD80

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lazyboy97o said:
Something on that spot is what I was counting as the net plus one.
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I would suspect that ride capacity will be somewhere like SWGE/TSL/Pandora.

Will be interesting to see report from the international parks that have the new Frozen/Zootopia lands and how they fare capacity wise. I assume lands will have similar targets for capacity.
 
lazyboy97o

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JD80 said:
I would suspect that ride capacity will be somewhere like SWGE/TSL/Pandora.

Will be interesting to see report from the international parks that have the new Frozen/Zootopia lands and how they fare capacity wise. I assume lands will have similar targets for capacity.
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What does this have to do with there only being a net increase of one attraction? It’s still not a smaller net gain which will be undermined by the additional demand.

The capacity of the Frozen lands isn’t a mystery. Both have a clone of Frozen Ever After and Hong Kong Disneyland has the extra roller skater that is about the length of Flight of the Hippogriff. Not exactly heavy hitters in the capacity department.
 
TheMaxRebo

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lazyboy97o said:
Not in terms of a net increase in attractions or capacity. Redoing a ride that’s already using its capacity doesn’t somehow give it more capacity. You’ve just spent money to have the same result, the capacity being utilized.
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But there is also the spinner and the new Encanto ride as part of it along with redoing Dinosaur
 
TheMaxRebo

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UNCgolf said:
To be fair, no one actually knows if that's going to be a ride, although I certainly hope it is.
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right - but like I said a bunch of posts ago if they literally just replace capacity that really won't do much

They need to increase demand/draw to the park (and away from other parks) and to parts of the park beyond Pandora and the Safari, AND they need more ride capacity to handle the increased demand

Some of that can come from just keeping the park open later, so more hours of throughput on existing rides, but also need more rides/more hourly capacity

I am working with the assumption that will be part of it with the overall plan for redoing all of Dinoland ... if not, then it is not money well spent
 
abaker1975

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Jrb1979 said:
When you add shows it puts it up to 20 at DHS. Still IMO each park should have 34 which is the same as MK.


You implied that using data tells how much capacity each park needs. That tells me that Disney believes there is enough capacity in each park.
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I think even MK is seriously lacking attractions. My belief is each park should have the same amount of attractions as Disneyland Park in Anaheim. I don't for the life of me know why each park is lacking attractions compared to Disneyland.
 

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