DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[lazyboy97o]

Over the years iv noticed Disney needs permits for everything, to change rides, even signs, new experiences etc

Who do they need to get the permit from and why is this needed with more less everything if Disney own the land anyway and there just changing a ride etc

Iv always wondered but never asked

Owning land doesn’t mean you can just build whatever you want whenever you want, especially if it’s open to other people.

Most of the permits are actually notices of commencement filed with the county, typically Orange County since that’s where most of the built portions of Walt Disney World are located. These aren’t really permits but notices that work is being done.

The permits recently posted in this thread, the ones that often show the larger site, are water management permits. Florida is divided into five water management districts that are responsible for protecting Florida’s water resources, including flood management. These are required when the water management plan of an area is being modified. They required civil engineering design but for buildings only really involve their size to know what is an impermeable surface that’s going to create runoff during rain events.

Building permits are required for the actual construction and demolition activities. These are issued by the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District (formerly the Reedy Creek Improvement District). These are the permits for the actual construction based on the detailed construction drawings developed by the architect and engineers.

 

[Garyjames220]

Owning land doesn’t mean you can just build whatever you want whenever you want, especially if it’s open to other people.

Most of the permits are actually notices of commencement filed with the county, typically Orange County since that’s where most of the built portions of Walt Disney World are located. These aren’t really permits but notices that work is being done.

The permits recently posted in this thread, the ones that often show the larger site, are water management permits. Florida is divided into five water management districts that are responsible for protecting Florida’s water resources, including flood management. These are required when the water management plan of an area is being modified. They required civil engineering design but for buildings only really involve their size to know what is an impermeable surface that’s going to create runoff during rain events.

Building permits are required for the actual construction and demolition activities. These are issued by the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District (formerly the Reedy Creek Improvement District). These are the permits for the actual construction based on the detailed construction drawings developed by the architect and engineers.

Thanks for explaining. Learn something new every day

 

[radiorae]

Cool beans. Updated the list.

You wouldn't happen to know the significance of: 89, S, and Ro?

Total shot in the dark… I wonder if Project 89 (Reflections) is named because reflected back 89 looks like 98– the year Mulan and its song Reflection came out (1998).

 

[Casper Gutman]

So about the cost of building materials…

 

[Sorcerer Mickey]

So about the cost of building materials…

Calling it right now. Bookmark this, frame it, whatever you gotta do. But here's what's going to happen...

- Plans for Encanto remain unchanged.
- Indiana Jones is not happening.
- Dinosaur will remain but under a different name and story. Aladar statue and fountain is out. The area will look like a lush, tropical rainforest while the CTX building will look abandoned with overgrowth surrounding it. The "Countdown to Extinction" name will return.
- The ride's new story will center around discovering the abandoned lab and Time Machine. Any loose tie to the 2001 "Dinosaur" movie is gone.
- The change will be heralded at this year's D23 as Disney "listening to the fans", but in reality, they were hesitant to begin work on Indy until external situations played out. Hesitation began after the last Indy movie completely bombed but it was too late to not announce the project at 2023's D23. Now with building materials potentially being 25% more expensive, the large, rolling boulder finally caught up to the man in the hat. Splat.

 

[Nobody nobody]

Indy is locked in.

It would take something catastrophic for Indy to not happen now.

Once again, cool your jets everyone.

 

[Agent H]

Once again, cool your jets everyone.

What do you mean cool your jets?

 

[EagleScout610]

What do you mean cool your jets?

I think it's talking about the worry that the recent economic changes will delay/cancel parts of the Tropical America construction.

 

[Nobody nobody]

I think it's talking about the worry that the recent economic changes will delay/cancel parts of the Tropical America construction.

Yes. Same goes for any other announced things with a date, at least imo. I think what DOES get canned, if anything, is any unannounced but heavily rumored project. IE, the SSE redo, the Animation courtyard project, ect.

 

[Agent H]

I think it's talking about the worry that the recent economic changes will delay/cancel parts of the Tropical America construction.

Well then @wdwmagic seems to know what he’s talking about that Indiana Jones will happen

 

[Agent H]

So about the cost of building materials…

Did something else happen? I don’t read “real world news” anymore so if something did happen I’m clueless

 

[Casper Gutman]

I think (and hope) Indy happens, but with cuts. Muppets closes. RnRC closes. Disney drags its feet on Monstersland and RnRC replacement, both opening with big cuts (particularly to Muppets replacement) much later then expected.

I have no idea what happens in MK.

 

[Nobody nobody]

Did something else happen? I don’t read “real world news” anymore so if something did happen I’m clueless

Tariffs.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Did something else happen? I don’t read “real world news” anymore so if something did happen I’m clueless

Great big steel tariffs signed.

Also statement that Canada and Mexico aren’t doing enough to avoid tariffs and plans to impose big tariffs on EU. Bluster perhaps, but bluster has consequences even if action doesn’t follow.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Obviously you can never say never - think after seeing the impact a global pandemic had we have to know anything is possible

But the things announced and especially the things where work has already started have budget approved for them.

If anything I would think it is the stuff that would have been in the later half of the 10 year plan that gets cancelled/scaled back and maybe they spread out the stuff already announced if there is a real down turn vs think Indy isn't happening or Zootopia at AK not happening or something

 

[Ayla]

Once again, cool your jets everyone.

Yep. Like I said earlier...it's a go - until it isn't.

 

[Agent H]

Great big steel tariffs signed.

Also statement that Canada and Mexico aren’t doing enough to avoid tariffs and plans to impose big tariffs on EU. Bluster perhaps, but bluster has consequences even if action doesn’t follow.

Cue big dramatic disappointed sigh

 

[Nobody nobody]

Obviously you can never say never - think after seeing the impact a global pandemic had we have to know anything is possible

But the things announced and especially the things where work has already started have budget approved for them.

If anything I would think it is the stuff that would have been in the later half of the 10 year plan that gets cancelled/scaled back and maybe they spread out the stuff already announced if there is a real down turn vs think Indy isn't happening or Zootopia at AK not happening or something

Yeah. It’s too late for muppets, which is a shame because I think if they REALLY wanted to they could’ve spun scaling back monstropilis into a huge PR win with muppet and maybe even pizzerizzo.

On the bright side, I do think if cuts happens, twilight zone theming at tot are bought time. That’s a potential bright side at least.

 

[Agent H]

Yeah. It’s too late for muppets, which is a shame because I think if they REALLY wanted to they could’ve spun scaling back monstropilis into a huge PR win with muppet and maybe even pizzerizzo.

On the bright side, I do think if cuts happens, twilight zone theming at tot are bought time. That’s a potential bright side at least.

If anything happens to tower of terror it’s going to be after the movie comes out so they can see how that goes

 

[lazyboy97o]

Well then @wdwmagic seems to know what he’s talking about that Indiana Jones will happen

Something being the plan today doesn’t prevent it from changing.

But the things announced and especially the things where work has already started have budget approved for them.

These are the sort of things most vulnerable to sudden price increases. You budgeted for X but now need y.