News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

CJR

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The south lands of the park were never intended to offer any significant live animal habitats. The park was always designed and intended to have the major animal attractions in the north.

Honestly, my post was a plant to shift discussion away from TSL, but I do think Dinoland was always intended to have some members of the animal kingdom in it, even if they weren't significant.

I believe that even the old Pocahontas show used birds. So, originally, animal life was found in every corner, if you were willing to look for it.

There are lots of insignificant species that they could easily move over that they already possess, starting with tree frogs (currently in Rafiki's Planet Watch). Don't get me wrong, I'd love something bigger, but they'd need a large investment to pull it off, and that was never expected by me. Something small/insignificant? Absolutely expected.
 

peter11435

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Honestly, my post was a plant to shift discussion away from TSL, but I do think Dinoland was always intended to have some members of the animal kingdom in it, even if they weren't significant.

I believe that even the old Pocahontas show used birds. So, originally, animal life was found in every corner, if you were willing to look for it.

There are lots of insignificant species that they could easily move over that they already possess, starting with tree frogs (currently in Rafiki's Planet Watch). Don't get me wrong, I'd love something bigger, but they'd need a large investment to pull it off, and that was never expected by me. Something small/insignificant? Absolutely expected.
I didn’t say the south lands didn’t have any animals. Obviously Pocahontas and her Forest friends had live aninals, and Dinoland had a few small habitats. But they were small and required little infrastructure. I said they were never intended to have anything significant, which they never were and never did.
 

CJR

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I didn’t say the south lands didn’t have any animals. Obviously Pocahontas and her Forest friends had live aninals, and Dinoland had a few small habitats. But they were small and required little infrastructure. I said they were never intended to have anything significant, which they never were and never did.

You replied to my post. Are you implying that I meant only significant animals? It didn't need to be significant, IMHO.

Not looking to start something, I just never said anything about the "significance" so it's unclear to me why that matters.
 
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peter11435

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You replied to my post. Are you implying that I meant only significant animals? It didn't need to be significant, IMHO.

Not looking to start something, I just never said anything about the "significance" so it's unclear to me why that matters.
You said real animals were an afterthought for this land. I’m pointing out that the intention for this part of the park has always been that any real animals would be small and insignificant.. in other words they will seem like an afterthought.
 

CJR

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You said real animals were an afterthought for this land. I’m pointing out that the intention for this part of the park has always been that any real animals would be small and insignificant.. in other words they will seem like an afterthought.

I see what you're saying, I feel like nothing in Joe Rohde's design was truly an afterthought. That's something that's changed since he departed, IMHO. He thought of everything in his design. Except a way to fix the Yeti easily if it broke. 😆
 

HauntedPirate

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I see what you're saying, I feel like nothing in Joe Rohde's design was truly an afterthought. That's something that's changed since he departed, IMHO. He thought of everything in his design. Except a way to fix the Yeti easily if it broke. 😆
The yeti can be replaced, and it wouldn’t require dismantling the entire mountain.
 

EagleScout610

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If you promise to spin the people in their triceratops one last time, they will come.
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SpectreJordan

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Probably because Disney's only doing this because they want to sell more Encanto merchandise, not because they want to add something to Animal Kingdom that actually fits the park. Plus, getting live animals is likely too expensive for Iger's Disney.
Is there any advantage of an IP getting a ride to push merch vs putting it in the generic gift shops? I know back in the Eisner days that had an effect. But nowadays, most of the gift shops just have random IPs in them, no matter the theme of the store, does it really matter nowadays?

The south lands of the park were never intended to offer any significant live animal habitats. The park was always designed and intended to have the major animal attractions in the north.
Even more reason that this idea should've been used on one of the actual expansion plots that DAK has. :/

This is one of my favorite gift shops in the parks. It's a shame that it's leaving.
 

Brer Panther

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The south lands of the park were never intended to offer any significant live animal habitats. The park was always designed and intended to have the major animal attractions in the north.
One difference is that Dinoland, at least, was focused on animals - prehistoric ones, which actually gives them an excuse not to have more live animal habitats. Tropical Americas doesn't seem to be focused on animals, at least not specifically. And South America being full of cool animals gives them less of an excuse.
You mean like the Water Buffalo or the Painted Dogs or the Nigerian Dwarf Goats?

Sure. Not under Iger's watch.
Touché. When were those added, specifically, though?
Is there any advantage of an IP getting a ride to push merch vs putting it in the generic gift shops? I know back in the Eisner days that had an effect. But nowadays, most of the gift shops just have random IPs in them, no matter the theme of the store, does it really matter nowadays?
I honestly don't know if an IP getting an attraction results in it selling more merchandise.
 

rle4lunch

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The whole problem with the Dinoland boardwalk carnival game premise (looking at Pixar Pier too) is that you have to pay extra money to pay. This would be acceptable in a state fair, city amusement park, or similar venue where you're basically paying for parking and purchasing Ala carte tickets for rides and things to do.

Disney IS NOT this type of venue. People are paying on average with food and other stuff well over $200/day per person to vacation there. Typical family of 4 on a 4 or 5 day park hopper are gonna spend $3-4k (conservative estimate) in a week just in the parks and lodging. If anything, these games should be free with crappy prizes akin to something found in a happy meal. I loathe that they stoop so low on stuff like this.

And yes, I know it's voluntary to play. Tell me the last time you seen a real line for any of the pay to play booths (besides the shoot8ng gallery when it was still $1)? Scamland games are for suckers.

These booths are failures in both DL and WDW.


Bring back the radio control boats and other interactive stations around the parks.
 

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