Ellen's Energy Adventure technical problems

PorterRedkey

Well-Known Member
The fact that Ellen, Alex Trebek, and Bill Nye look and are from 20 years ago, that just comes across as pathetic to most audiences. And let us not forget Jamie Lee Curtis, who when the film was made was a few years off True Lies and now is schilling yogurt to boomers in the States.

How long has it been since Alec Trebek had a mustache?

And while Ellen's daytime show is very popular, I really think Jeopardy is really played out. I think retired people and game show fans watch it.
 

PorterRedkey

Well-Known Member
People get so mad about screens, well Energy shows not 1, not 2, but 3 movies counting the "pre show". Not 3D movies, just plain old-fashioned flat screen fun. The Dino segment is awesome, but short in comparison to the movie segments. Originally the idea of being seated in a movie theater that started to move after the movie ended and then taking you into the world the film discussed, was amazing. Now, with the new LPS? trackless system (Wasn't UOE the first of the old "trackless" system then GMR?) and after riding it for 25 years, the moving theater concept is no longer fresh. It might be time for it to go.

I would hope they could still use the dinos, but maybe go trackless with smaller vehicles set in a similar position to the current theater 1 set up. Cars would travel through the DINOrama 3 cars wide before getting to theater 2. Theater 2 could be remade into a series of smaller pathways where the cars would enter single-file, maybe stopping occasionally in small 3-4 car groups to view a cool scene play out (Maybe in the round?). This would save space and increase the time of this section. This new section would be about 20th century energy and current energy. I don't know if the room is there for this, but if not, they could reduce the size one theater one to accommodate it since the vehicles will be smaller.

Also in the current version, they is no big finale. No lasers or mirrors, just the conclusion of the Jeopardy game.

In this new version that I am making up, I could see returning to transformed Theater 1. Something that would make you feel like you were in a different room from the first time you were there. Now more futuristic and focusing on the FUTURE of energy. It is in Future World after all! Using the castle projection tech, some hidden futuristic elements, along with dramatically different lighting and music, I think this could be achieved. Guest could exit with the optimism of the possibilities of tomorrow. I used to feel this way a lot in Future world, but a lot less today. Now people exit energy feeling they have just watch an episode of Jeopardy, bored or well rested.

Everything I have outlined may not even be feasible, I doubt this is the best approach, but it's all I could brainstorm with my non-imagineer mind. I think at least some elements I mentioned could be used. I hope what finally gets made it something I couldn't even imagine now, or at least get some sort of sorely needed revamp that adds to the attraction instead of subtract from it like the original refurb did.
 

Communicore

Well-Known Member
The ride needs to be demolished. I can't help but cry when I think of the first time I rode the original and how fun it was. This is so stuck in the 90's. I'd rather see the 80's footage and hear the 70's style song right now than watch something from the 90's. A lot of first time riders cringe when they see the presentation! I can feel them cringing too!
 

BoarderPhreak

Well-Known Member
The ride needs to be demolished. I can't help but cry when I think of the first time I rode the original and how fun it was. This is so stuck in the 90's. I'd rather see the 80's footage and hear the 70's style song right now than watch something from the 90's. A lot of first time riders cringe when they see the presentation! I can feel them cringing too!
At least they ditched the rainbow paintjob, LOL... That was more 60's. :D

 

prberk

Well-Known Member
It's an interesting problem, for sure, and one I used to be guilty of before I realized how it was impacting my enjoyment of the parks. I wonder if part of it is now the sheer quantity of offerings WDW has. WDW's "Vacation Kingdom of the World" ads from the 1970s/80s reflect a much more leisurely style of vacationing, but in hindsight a 1-week trip to WDW must have been a lot more leisurely with only one or two theme parks, three hotels and a campground. Now you can spend a week in WDW and still struggle to see "it all".

Playing devil's advocate, it kind of makes you wonder how more additions to the parks would impact this mentality. If people are already abandoning UoE because it's seen as taking too much valuable time they could be enjoying other Epcot offerings, what would adding three more E-tickets to Epcot do? I wouldn't object to the E-tickets but it makes you wonder how it would further affect the pacing. I wonder if people would ever just accept that they can't do it all, and just enjoy the attractions they choose instead of trying to do all of them.

Yeah, I think they forget the value of the rest of the resort -- golf, lakes, fishing, great pools, boats, white-sand beaches, dinner shows, campfires, room service, lobby exhibits, rocking chairs, poolside movies, the water pageant, horseback riding, poolside fireworks views. Those things used to be in the commercials, and actually today would help remind people what the resort itself has to offer beyond the parks -- and a reason to stay there.

Of course, there also used to be corporate resources poured into them better, such as the old ski shows (with Goofy and ski jumpers) on the Seven Seas Lagoon, and Discovery Island, and the advertising you mentioned.

I think that Burbank just forgets about what make the resort a resort and not just a collection of theme parks and water parks. And that ultimately works with other infestations of the ADD beast to take away from our leisurely enjoying Disney.

In some ways it is self-fulfilling. When my "we-go-the-beach-to-relax" friends talk about why they don't do Disney World, they invariably mention the expectation of this fast pace (after they mention money!). And it is all Disney's fault that they lose some folks due to this perception.
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
honestly the energy conservation issue is more prevalent now than it was when the ride was made.
Yes, which is exspecially frustrating for old-school EPCOT fans. It makes it all the more difficult to understand why the currant UoE Pavillion stands as it is today when there is so much more that can be done with it.

Hoping for a character-free reboot soon...a grand, epic, thought-provoking attraction that mirrors past successful old-school attractions but blends in new tech and features to really wow folks on this topic. The Pavillion, and the topic, deserve such.

Not dumbed down..not 'comedy'....EPIC. Awe. Inspire.
Make it so when people exit, they will feel differently about how they consume energy and maybe rethink some things.
No need to be 'preachy' and create a 'guilt trip'....but also do not skirt the issues.
A fine balance that Disney used to be famous for.

It CAN be done...!
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
Yes, which is exspecially frustrating for old-school EPCOT fans. It makes it all the more difficult to understand why the currant UoE Pavillion stands as it is today when there is so much more that can be done with it.

Hoping for a character-free reboot soon...a grand, epic, thought-provoking attraction that mirrors past successful old-school attractions but blends in new tech and features to really wow folks on this topic. The Pavillion, and the topic, deserve such.

Not dumbed down..not 'comedy'....EPIC. Awe. Inspire.
Make it so when people exit, they will feel differently about how they consume energy and maybe rethink some things.
No need to be 'preachy' and create a 'guilt trip'....but also do not skirt the issues.
A fine balance that Disney used to be famous for.

It CAN be done...!
I think it's critical that any new Energy Pavilion update plays down fossil fuels substantially. Too much of both the original and EEA is from a big oil-centric viewpoint
 

ShoalFox

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
I think it's critical that any new Energy Pavilion update plays down fossil fuels substantially. Too much of both the original and EEA is from a big oil-centric viewpoint
I think that the original UoE had so much about oil because Exxon sponsored it. Now with no Exxon, there is a possibility of the ride having less to do with oil and more with alternate energy sources.
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
I think it's critical that any new Energy Pavilion update plays down fossil fuels substantially. Too much of both the original and EEA is from a big oil-centric viewpoint
Agree with your thoughts fully. I was going to comment on this in my original post, but held back.
Glad to see i am not the only one feeling that way about the past editions of the attraction.
The next edition of UoE needs to drift away from the fossil-fuel focus to some extent.
When Exxon was still a sponser it of course was somewhat understandable why that topic was at the forefront.

With all the advances made since the 90s in energy production and consumption modes, the Pavillion is in a desperate need for a refresh, specifically the films. The diorama still awes, but the films need to be changed.

It would be neat to see some of the more forward thinking ideas for energy touched upon instead of focusing on what we already are using, or to a more cynical extent, what we are currently exploiting.
 

Admiral01

Premium Member
I just don't like Ellen. Never have, never will. Don't even like her voicing Dory, but at least thats tolerable enough.

Why do they bring in celebs to do attractions when it dates them so much?

I personally have no problem with Ellen or any other celebrity, but I just don't like them being part of attractions like this. It does date them, and it makes them feel a little less grand. EEA feels more like an after school special than it does a grand EPCOT attraction. Dream sequence, Jeopardy, Bill Nye, Ellen, Alex Trebek, all learning about energy...feels like something you watch when your 8th grade science teacher is out sick and the substitute needs to put a video on.
 

BoarderPhreak

Well-Known Member
I personally have no problem with Ellen or any other celebrity, but I just don't like them being part of attractions like this. It does date them, and it makes them feel a little less grand. EEA feels more like an after school special than it does a grand EPCOT attraction. Dream sequence, Jeopardy, Bill Nye, Ellen, Alex Trebek, all learning about energy...feels like something you watch when your 8th grade science teacher is out sick and the substitute needs to put a video on.
Yep, I agree... The narration should mostly be... More "generic." That is, not a star or personality. Like you said, it sets a date to it - and IMO, the narrator overshadows the rest of the attraction unnecessarily.
 

luv

Well-Known Member
I liked the rainbow paint job.

I don't think kids know the celebs are dating the attraction. They just see it for what it is.

I still think Ellen is a good ride.
 

lego606

MagicBandit
I liked the rainbow paint job.

I don't think kids know the celebs are dating the attraction. They just see it for what it is.

I still think Ellen is a good ride.

The kids don't, but the adults do. Still a great ride, but as soon as Ellen falls out of popularity the ride is dead.
 

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