Elemental (Pixar - June 2023)

[doctornick]

I do think that if Elemental has good legs and positive reception from those who see it (which I think is plausible) and ideally gets decent watch numbers on D+, then I think it will at least help to rehabilitate the Pixar image and rep even if it doesn’t make a profit.

 

[BrianLo]

Strange World wasn't Pixar.

Oh no, I know. I just meant this isn't exclusively a Disney Corporation wide issue. Not that Strange World was cheap compared to Illumination, but there is a notable Pixar budget premium.

 

[LittleBuford]

I do think that if Elemental has good legs and positive reception from those who see it (which I think is plausible) and ideally gets decent watch numbers on D+, then I think it will at least help to rehabilitate the Pixar image and rep even if it doesn’t make a profit.

Is Pixar's image in need of rehabilitation in the first place?

 

[doctornick]

Is Pixar's image in need of rehabilitation in the first place?

Yes. The general public no longer looks at Pixar movies as or “I expect this to be great so I need to see it right away”

 

[Disney Analyst]

What markets is Elemental still due to open?

 

[DCBaker]

What markets is Elemental still due to open?

Here are the remaining release dates for Elemental.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Here are the remaining release dates for Elemental.

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Isn’t it still due for the UK also?

 

[Disney Irish]

Isn’t it still due for the UK also?

Yes, July 7th.

 

[wtyy21]

Elemental beats The Flash at International box office for the second weekend ($31.3M for Elemental versus $26.6M for The Flash).

Pixar’s ‘Elemental’ Knocks Down ‘The Flash’ on International Box Office Charts

"The Flash" continues to stumble at the box office, collecting $26.6 million from 78 international territories.

variety.com

The film maybe gradually gets positive word-to-mouth from the International audience, benefited from A cinemascore (similar to TLM) granted for the film.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Yes. The general public no longer looks at Pixar movies as or “I expect this to be great so I need to see it right away”

That’s not Pixar’s image problem. Pixar’s image problem is that viewers look at it and say, “original animation is for streaming.” Every animation studio is facing this issue, though it’s more noticeable with Pixar because of the heights it once reached.

 

[Tha Realest]

Elemental beats The Flash at International box office for the second weekend ($31.3M for Elemental versus $26.6M for The Flash).

Pixar’s ‘Elemental’ Knocks Down ‘The Flash’ on International Box Office Charts

"The Flash" continues to stumble at the box office, collecting $26.6 million from 78 international territories.

variety.com

The film maybe gradually gets positive word-to-mouth from the International audience, benefited from A cinemascore (similar to TLM) granted for the film.

“At least we’re not WBD!” manifests again

 

[MisterPenguin]

As far as the ballooning budget:

1. Being used to making huge BO receipts, the animation studios probably don't think about tightening their belts.

2. I would assume all the engineering work to advance the art of CGI is baked into the budget. Other studios can rely on using what's just state-of-the-art off-the-shelf CGI without spending tens of millions for engineering new water/ice/fire/hair/skin simulation.

 

[MisterPenguin]

“At least we’re not WBD!” manifests again

Variety's articles on the BO don't have separate articles for separate films. So, to post an article about one film's BO, one is forced to include the other films of the day.

Right a letter to Variety complaining of their whataboutism.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

That’s not Pixar’s image problem. Pixar’s image problem is that viewers look at it and say, “original animation is for streaming.” Every animation studio is facing this issue, though it’s more noticeable with Pixar because of the heights it once reached.

This makes me wonder if Blue Sky Studios was still around..How would they had dealt with this under Disney would we have even more Ice Age, Robots and Rio films until the cows come home? Even the last direct to Disney+ film on Buck Wild was unfavorable to reviews and it was not even animated by Blue Sky.

 

[Communicora]

As far as the ballooning budget:

1. Being used to making huge BO receipts, the animation studios probably don't think about tightening their belts.

2. I would assume all the engineering work to advance the art of CGI is baked into the budget. Other studios can rely on using what's just state-of-the-art off-the-shelf CGI without spending tens of millions for engineering new water/ice/fire/hair/skin simulation.

3. They are said to have good working conditions for their production teams.

To compare, there's this article about the Spider-Verse production.

‘Death by a Thousand Paper Cuts’

Four animators say unsustainable working conditions are behind the success of Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse.

www.vulture.com

 

[MisterPenguin]

This makes me wonder if Blue Sky Studios was still around..How would they had dealt with this under Disney would we have even more Ice Age, Robots and Rio films until the cows come home? Even the last direct to Disney+ film on Buck Wild was unfavorable to reviews and it was not even animated by Blue Sky.

Check out the direction of the ratings of each consecutive Ice Age movie.

 

[drod1985]

Just saw it and enjoyed it quite a bit. I really think the trailers did this film a disservice. It's not Pixar's best work, but it's solid.

 

[MrPromey]

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Check out the direction of the ratings of each consecutive Ice Age movie.

Yeah, they were going the Disney direct-to-video route from the late 90's with their sequels. Look at Rio 2.

One can probably guess what a Robots 2 or Spies in Disguise 2 would have looked like on that chart.

 

[Tha Realest]

And yet! Pixar is about to become the sequel machine.

 

[Disstevefan1]

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Check out the direction of the ratings of each consecutive Ice Age movie.

Look at that, they all made money! 3 and 4 made the most money!