Electrical Fire At Epcot

[mikeymouse]

while looking for other fires/accidents at disney i found this close call ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-rubFlyv0c

this could have been bad! ppl have been killed by parade floats!

 

[BigB911]

Tsk, had I been there I'd have done Disney a little favour and put it out. Electrical fires, hmmm, all smoke and not much fire and a liberal dosing of dry powder would have sorted it as it doesn't seem to have been much at all.

No point tearing my Orlando brethren away from their supper if I can help it at all. By the way, in my opinion (I hate abbreviations) Fire Engines look better in red, pillar box red to be precise. :animwink:

I concur. Not digging that whole lime yellow scheme. Maybe typical for FL, or WDW anyways, but that response seemed kind of...soft, unless other apparatus was staged outside of the park. In these parts, a residential AFA draws a minimum response of a truck and 2 engines. Commercial AFA's usually show at least 2 trucks and 3 engines on the card.

Also, just curious as to why the OP would say he picks on the FF's back home?

 

[HMF]

Maybe they can burn down the tarps?:lookaroun:lol:

It would probably be easier to navigate if the tarps were not there for the fire truck.

 

[Pioneer Hall]

I will be in the park again this evening...I will let you know if the area is reopened.

 

[N234MM]

I'm trying to figure out how they entered the park. Did they use Ave of the Stars and drive by the front restrooms? Looks kinda tight.

 

[Slipknot]

I'm trying to figure out how they entered the park. Did they use Ave of the Stars and drive by the front restrooms? Looks kinda tight.

If they could get a very very big crane in the park to get rid of the wand, fire trucks shouldn't have a problem...

 

[elisatonks]

i always wondered what they would do if they had to get fire trucks in to deal with a fire that wasn't accessable from backstage.

Am going to EPCOT today as we have a ressie at Norway's table service, so will report when i get back if anything is closed over at EPCOT today.

 

[AshaNeOmah]

Yes was hell. But that's another thread...:lookaroun

More thread drift! It wasn't great (Read: Michael Bay, Pearl Harbor) but it definitely wasn't as bad as as it could have been. I was genuinely entertained by the action scenes even if the last one lasted waayyy too long. Don't mention the twins or the little Decepticon...

Back to the original topic: a question. Does anyone know where emergency vehicles enter each of the parks? I would like to know that tidbit of information.

 

[Phonedave]

Tsk, had I been there I'd have done Disney a little favour and put it out. Electrical fires, hmmm, all smoke and not much fire and a liberal dosing of dry powder would have sorted it as it doesn't seem to have been much at all.

No point tearing my Orlando brethren away from their supper if I can help it at all. By the way, in my opinion (I hate abbreviations) Fire Engines look better in red, pillar box red to be precise. :animwink:

It's called fire engine red for a reason

And I agree - the only apparatus that should be safety yellow is that on airports and military bases.

-dave

 

[Phonedave]

More thread drift! It wasn't great (Read: Michael Bay, Pearl Harbor) but it definitely wasn't as bad as as it could have been. I was genuinely entertained by the action scenes even if the last one lasted waayyy too long. Don't mention the twins or the little Decepticon...

Back to the original topic: a question. Does anyone know where emergency vehicles enter each of the parks? I would like to know that tidbit of information.

Well judging by the film, it looks like they came in the main entrance. I know there is a "back door" to EPCOT behind Germany where I have also seen emergency vehicles enter.

I would hazard to say emergency vehicles enter the park at the closest point to the fireground (or incident site). I am sure each park has multiple ingress (and for that matter egress) points.


-dave

 

[bgraham34]

I have to say that is pretty cool seeing the fire trucks in the park.

 

[Phonedave]

that response seemed kind of...soft, unless other apparatus was staged outside of the park. In these parts, a residential AFA draws a minimum response of a truck and 2 engines. Commercial AFA's usually show at least 2 trucks and 3 engines on the card.

I was wondering that myself.

Around here the response is not quite to the levels you guys have, but we are mainly residential. Most departments only have one ladder (and some have a second for backup, but its not normaly in service). But then we have the County mutual aid system here, so townships back each other up. NJ has a history of "home rule" we dont do things on an efficent county or state level, each town, for the most part, has its own fire, police, ambulance, buildings, courts, etc. Every so often they throw out the fact that our county has more fire appratus spread among all the town departments than exists in the entire NYC fire department.

Anyway, yeah, I though that was a kind of light response for somthing like a major them park, unless like you said they were staging offsite.

-dave

 

[Monorail_Orange]

I am also wondering if the initial blaze had already been extinguished and this was merely the "hotspot" team to avoid a new flare-up?

Admittedly, down here in N.O., one ladder truck and one pumper truck is a pretty typical response to a small electrical fire that would not be threatening the entire structure imminently.

Also, the fact that Disney did not completely evacuate the park hints that either this was a "small" fire, or the initial blaze was already out. Just thinking out loud. :shrug:

 

[Figment632]

I heard it was caused by triangles and curtains.

 

[brkgnews]

I'm trying to figure out how they entered the park. Did they use Ave of the Stars and drive by the front restrooms? Looks kinda tight.

That's actually a pretty wide path. Take a look here...

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.as...&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=36399557&encType=1

Note the size of the Disney bus in the loop versus the size of the pathway. They'd have to make a somewhat sharp left turn to get through the gate (just below that "C" shape of square trees to the right of SSE), but it looks to still be rather easily navigable... no worse than a tight city street.

Clearer view overhead here...
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=28.375206,-81.549957&spn=0.00089,0.001203&t=h&z=20

 

[PhotoDave219]

I was wondering that myself.

Around here the response is not quite to the levels you guys have, but we are mainly residential. Most departments only have one ladder (and some have a second for backup, but its not normaly in service). But then we have the County mutual aid system here, so townships back each other up. NJ has a history of "home rule" we dont do things on an efficent county or state level, each town, for the most part, has its own fire, police, ambulance, buildings, courts, etc. Every so often they throw out the fact that our county has more fire appratus spread among all the town departments than exists in the entire NYC fire department.

Anyway, yeah, I though that was a kind of light response for somthing like a major them park, unless like you said they were staging offsite.

-dave

Drifting OT here....

Last week when the Georgia Theatre burned, all three of the tower trucks were in use at the same time. Made a good stop; building is still standing. Never seen 3 towers in use before at once. Didnt go make a picture of it mainly because i didnt want to hike up 7 floors to the top of a parking garage a second time as the power was out.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

I am also wondering if the initial blaze had already been extinguished and this was merely the "hotspot" team to avoid a new flare-up?

Admittedly, down here in N.O., one ladder truck and one pumper truck is a pretty typical response to a small electrical fire that would not be threatening the entire structure imminently.

Also, the fact that Disney did not completely evacuate the park hints that either this was a "small" fire, or the initial blaze was already out. Just thinking out loud. :shrug:

Yep, yep, and yep. Looked like a pretty typical and reasonable response for Florida to me. Considering guests were still walking through and around the Innoventions West building, I think the situation was under control. Disney prob could have gotten away with not even calling in the fire dept, but better safe than sorry.

 

[magicmaya]

Sheesh...I heard about this via phone in the middle of a movie (Transformers...sucked...:lookaroun) and I'll admit, it scared me. Hope it's not too bad.


Maybe they can burn down the tarps?:lookaroun:lol:

:lol:
I didn't like neither of the movies! I thought I was the only one

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

More thread drift! It wasn't great (Read: Michael Bay, Pearl Harbor) but it definitely wasn't as bad as as it could have been. I was genuinely entertained by the action scenes even if the last one lasted waayyy too long. Don't mention the twins or the little Decepticon...

Back to the original topic: a question. Does anyone know where emergency vehicles enter each of the parks? I would like to know that tidbit of information.

The Twins were horrid. I could honestly see people calling it a racial slur.:zipit: Heck, I was even offended.

That's actually a pretty wide path. Take a look here...

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.as...&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=36399557&encType=1

Note the size of the Disney bus in the loop versus the size of the pathway. They'd have to make a somewhat sharp left turn to get through the gate (just below that "C" shape of square trees to the right of SSE), but it looks to still be rather easily navigable... no worse than a tight city street.

Clearer view overhead here...
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=28.375206,-81.549957&spn=0.00089,0.001203&t=h&z=20

Ah, interesting, Jackie. So they get there via the parking lot? Or is there another backstage road?

 

[brkgnews]

The Twins were horrid. I could honestly see people calling it a racial slur.:zipit: Heck, I was even offended.


Ah, interesting, Jackie. So they get there via the parking lot? Or is there another backstage road?

Avenue of the Stars circles all around backstage behind World Showcase. You know when you go "under water" on Epcot Resort Boulevard? The backstage road at Epcot is right next to you
(see here)

So anyhoo, follow Avenue of the stars around World Showcase to just behind Italy... and lo-n-behold, there appears to be an access road to the RCFD station on Buena Vista Drive at Victory Way.
(linky - when you pass by that Fire Station, look through the trees and you can usually see World Showcase)

So I would preume the fire engines came out of the station there, entered the backstage area behind Italy, travelled behind American Adventure, Japan, Morocco, and France... then "underneath" the waterway between International Gateway and Boardwalk, then continued behind Canada, UK, Millenium Village, The Land, and The Seas, then entered on-stage at the area I pointed out earlier.

[/Disney CSI] :king: