Eisner vs Iger how do they match up

[raven]

True, but at least they were done in moderation. With Frozen, it feels as though Disney forgot that any other film existed. Not even Big Hero 6 and Wreck-It Ralph had big merchandise sales, and I'm pretty sure Zootopia won't be big in merchandise either.

Those films also don't showcase royalty.

 

[raven]

Those films also don't showcase royalty.

All hail the queens and princesses.

 

[Brer Panther]

New Fantasyland was a disappointment and Avatar has taken too long. Who knows about Star Wars and Toy Story.

Point is, they could have done some EPCOT and HS improvements along the way. They waited until DHS was in shambles and finally announced projects to address it, but itremains in shambles. We haven't heard anything on EPCOT and it's already long overdue.

Well, to be fair, it's not Iger's fault that the current Imagineers build things at the pace of a tortoise. Seriously, I get that something like Avatar Land can't be built in a mere THREE DAYS, but come on, look at how fast Universal builds!

 

[Matt_Black]

Those films also don't showcase royalty.

KING Candy?

 

[brb1006]

Not to mention that at one point, he met at all four parks and had a character meal besides. There was also the manga. Stitch is HUGE in Asia.

Especially in Japan

 

[Chef Mickey]

Well, to be fair, it's not Iger's fault that the current Imagineers build things at the pace of a tortoise. Seriously, I get that something like Avatar Land can't be built in a mere THREE DAYS, but come on, look at how fast Universal builds!

As the CEO, everything is his fault...that's just how it is when you make $46.5 million and own 1 million shares of DIS.

 

[DisneyManOne]

True, we do seem to pitch the blame on the CEO, just cause he's in charge. Well, who's at fault over the closings of all the favorite rides? Who's at fault for allowing a Mary Poppins sequel to get greenlit? Who's at fault for milking cash-cows dry?

 

[Marc Davis Fan]

Eisner. At least he mostly kept things in-house and didn't purchase unrelated properties. The parks have been basically stagnant since his departure, with the exception of DCA. There was tremendous growth when we had Eisner, even if things weren't perfect.

We should remember, however, that DCA's expansion was 1.1-1.2 billion dollars. That's an unprecedented singular expansion of an existing park (I think), and at a very high level of quality (Cars, BVS). And HKDL saw a similarly huge expansion with three entirely new lands, including two cutting-edge attractions. And WDSP saw a major expansion, too.

New Fantasyland was a disappointment and Avatar has taken too long. Who knows about Star Wars and Toy Story.

Point is, they could have done some EPCOT and HS improvements along the way. They waited until DHS was in shambles and finally announced projects to address it, but itremains in shambles. We haven't heard anything on EPCOT and it's already long overdue.

WDW sees more guests than anywhere and it's a shame Iger has let it erode to its current state. It speaks to how great the parks were at WDW before Iger arrived that they continue to attract guests and still be a lot of fun.

These are good points.

I wish NFL had included an e-ticket, rather than splitting the budget into SDMT and TLM.

Although I can see their probable thought process making sense for focusing the "new attractions budget" on one-park-at-a-time major expansions, I, too, wish they had found a way to at least make minor updates to DHS and Epcot along the way.

 

[Chef Mickey]

We should remember, however, that DCA's expansion was 1.1-1.2 billion dollars. That's an unprecedented singular expansion of an existing park (I think), and at a very high level of quality (Cars, BVS). And HKDL saw a similarly huge expansion with three entirely new lands, including two cutting-edge attractions. And WDSP saw a major expansion, too.



These are good points.

I wish NFL had included an e-ticket, rather than splitting the budget into SDMT and TLM.

Although I can see their probable thought process making sense for focusing the "new attractions budget" on one-park-at-a-time major expansions, I, too, wish they had found a way to at least make minor updates to DHS and Epcot along the way.

From an EPCOT perspective, they wouldn't have even had to do anything new. They just straight up closed stuff or completely ignored it from a maintenance perspective. They didn't even maintain EPCOT and the one "new" ride decision they made was a terrible one (Maelstrom for Frozen).

DHS has entire buildings completely closed (as does EPCOT) and it's just inexcusable. They failed to even run EPCOT and DHS as "normal" parks by letting this basic stuff just drop to the floor. Wonders of Life, closed....Imagination remains closed....Ellen's ride completely ignored, Future World is basically dead, Innoventions dead, Soarin' taking too long and was in bad repair before closing, fountains broken, Test Track 2.0 was awful, Mission Space remains dated (easily could do a new mission w/ same ride), almost every country has a dated "attraction," and they ruined Malestrom to put in Frozen.

The only reason AK wasn't the same way is because it was too new, but they just let the greatest E-Ticket Disney ever built move on with tons of broken effects (Yeti, Waterfall, Countless minor effects at EE).

The only halfway decent job they did was at MK, but even new Fantasyland was an overall disappointment due to the issues you mentioned. They also closed Snow White, a classic Disney dark ride in a park dying for rides, for no reason. Overall, I like it because expansion of space is always a win.

 

[POLY LOVER]

Maybe the Disney company has become to big for Iger to keep up with. Maybe the parks should be spun off to be a separate company with a dedicated CEO. To keep up with all people want then it needs constant attention. I think Eisner understood the power of the parks and their history and their place in the Disney empire. Does anyone know how often Iger visits the parks or the last time he was there to see their condition?

 

[Chef Mickey]

True, we do seem to pitch the blame on the CEO, just cause he's in charge. Well, who's at fault over the closings of all the favorite rides? Who's at fault for allowing a Mary Poppins sequel to get greenlit? Who's at fault for milking cash-cows dry?

Ultimately, Iger is responsible for all of those things.

 

[Brer Panther]

They also closed Snow White... for no reason.

Unless, of course, you count "we needed an incredibly large building to put this princess meet-and-greet" as a reason. If nothing else, they could have used the space for a Mary Poppins dark ride or something.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Unless, of course, you count "we needed an incredibly large building to put this princess meet-and-greet" as a reason. If nothing else, they could have used the space for a Mary Poppins dark ride or something.

It was a terrible decision to even remove Snow White in the first place. The Meet and Greet could be done anywhere and they closed an all time classic for good.

 

[DisneyManOne]

It was a terrible decision to even remove Snow White in the first place. The Meet and Greet could be done anywhere and they closed an all time classic for good.

What about the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train coaster? Wouldn't it be a bit redundant to have two attractions based on the same film within walking distance of each other?

 

[Chef Mickey]

What about the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train coaster? Wouldn't it be a bit redundant to have two attractions based on the same film within walking distance of each other?

Absolutely not. They are completely different concepts.

However, Disney appears to have done this for that reason...a reason I think is totally ridiculous.

 

[dlrwdw98]

I didn't like Eisner. All the parks he had a part in: California Adventure 1.0, Walt Disney Studios Paris, and Disney's Hollywood Studios failed terribly.

 

[DisneyManOne]

I didn't like Eisner. All the parks he had a part in: California Adventure 1.0, Walt Disney Studios Paris, and Disney's Hollywood Studios failed terribly.

He also had a part in these...

 

[Brer Panther]

And Animal Kingdom. And Tokyo Disneyland too, I think.

 

[dlrwdw98]

He also had a part in these...

Wow! Didn't know that! He made terrible parks and amazing parks!

 

[dlrwdw98]

I'd say EPCOT and DHS have been emergencies for almost 10 years.

Iger did well with DCA, but Shanghai was greed and should have never happened before love was brough to the flagship WDW.

New Fantasyland was a disappointment and Avatar has taken too long. Who knows about Star Wars and Toy Story.

Point is, they could have done some EPCOT and HS improvements along the way. They waited until DHS was in shambles and finally announced projects to address it, but itremains in shambles. We haven't heard anything on EPCOT and it's already long overdue.

WDW sees more guests than anywhere and it's a shame Iger has let it erode to its current state. It speaks to how great the parks were at WDW before Iger arrived that they continue to attract guests and still be a lot of fun.

I want 80s-90's WDW back.