News Early Theme Park Entry and Extended Evening Hours coming for resort guests

UNCgolf

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Well it’s only a waste if there’s nothing in either of those two lands that interest you

I really meant that most of those attractions don't get long waits anyways except on the busiest days. Carousel of Progress is one of my favorite attractions at WDW, but I don't need special time in the morning to be able to ride it without a long wait.

If you're going to be up early anyways, especially with kids, it's definitely useful to go ride Peter Pan and 7DMT (although I don't know that you'll be able to ride both in the 30 minute window if more people start showing up for this) before the long lines. I was only speaking for me personally -- there's nothing there that would be worth getting up super early to take advantage.
 

pdude81

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No KS means you can't use Early Entry to circumvent paying for IAS for it. You could still standby at official park opening time, but then you're competing with all guests.
Well you're still in the park long before them, and I expect there will be a line of sorts. The Safari just won't start until park opening. Still a large advantage if you don't care about the other rides that are open.
 

DisneyDodo

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Well you're still in the park long before them, and I expect there will be a line of sorts. The Safari just won't start until park opening. Still a large advantage if you don't care about the other rides that are open.
That's true, but this could eat into the efficiency of your Early Entry experience (e.g. if you have to choose between getting on one more ride that will let you out after the crowds enter or queueing up for KS). It's definitely not a huge deal, and I presume the reason has more to do with the animals' schedules than Disney trying to incentivize IAS (since most of the other rumored IAS rides will be open during EE), but it's one data point that could affect the calculus of staying onsite vs offsite.
 

DisneyDodo

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If you're going to be up early anyways, especially with kids, it's definitely useful to go ride Peter Pan and 7DMT (although I don't know that you'll be able to ride both in the 30 minute window if more people start showing up for this) before the long lines. I was only speaking for me personally -- there's nothing there that would be worth getting up super early to take advantage.
Ideally, you would at least be able to ride one and get in line for the other before other park guests are let in and make it over to Fantasyland. This is one instance where the rides being short can actually work to your advantage.
 

JakeAZ

Active Member
So MK is Wednesdays at 9pm. They now have dates for all of October and the first week of November. As we get into later November and December, does anyone think they will move the times to 10pm - 12am for MK? Occupancy levels are very high going into mid - late Fall.
 

SpectroMagician

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This is the only good decision Disney has made in a while. Brings back what extra magic hours used to be like before they added a bunch more hotels. Gives a reward form staying at a nice Disney hotel.

Since they removed Fastpass for whatever the stupid genie BS is at least you get to ride things during these hours.
 

brettf22

Premium Member
For MK, I wonder what percentage will be trying to hit 7Dwarves and then get in line for Space in those 30 minutes? Since those appear to be the two non-Genie+ rides that will cost extra, this is Disney's way of giving onsite guests one or two free LL passes.
 

ToTBellHop

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So MK is Wednesdays at 9pm. They now have dates for all of October and the first week of November. As we get into later November and December, does anyone think they will move the times to 10pm - 12am for MK? Occupancy levels are very high going into mid - late Fall.
They can always move these events later if necessary. They aren’t paid or ticketed events, so the times aren’t set in stone. It was not unusual for EMH times to change.
 

UNCgolf

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No. What if your number is called and you aren’t staying at a participating resort?

Would that really matter since it's only 30 minutes? Even if you were in group 1, you'd have a 45 minute grace period to get in and make it to the ride, even if they were actually going to enforce a specific time window. My understanding is that it hasn't mattered at all for Rise up to this point; as long as you have a group that's been called you can show up at any time.
 

DisneyDodo

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No. What if your number is called and you aren’t staying at a participating resort?
That's what I'm wondering. The app should know though so they could only give those BGs to onsite guests (though not every guest will want to show up early). Alternatively, they could allow offsite guests with early BGs into the park before opening for RotR/Rat only. If not, let a certain number of Early Entry guests ride it standby! The idea of leaving a ride that cannot come close to meeting demand closed while the park is open is so mind-bogglingly psychotic, I just can't wrap my head around it.
 

UNCgolf

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That's what I'm wondering. The app should know though so they could only give those BGs to onsite guests (though not every guest will want to show up early). Alternatively, they could allow offsite guests with early BGs into the park before opening for RotR/Rat only. If not, let a certain number of Early Entry guests ride it standby! The idea of leaving a ride that cannot come close to meeting demand closed while the park is open is so mind-bogglingly psychotic, I just can't wrap my head around it.

See my post just above yours. I don't see why it would matter even if someone was in group 1. They should still have plenty of time to get on the ride.
 

DisneyDodo

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See my post just above yours. I don't see why it would matter even if someone was in group 1. They should still have plenty of time to get on the ride.
That's true, though it would defeat the purpose of having early BGs if most of the ride's capacity would sit mostly unused until park open.
 

nickys

Premium Member
No KS means you can't use Early Entry to circumvent paying for IAS for it. You could still standby at official park opening time, but then you're competing with all guests.
I’m pretty sure KS wasn’t listed for EMH either. Main reason being the animals’ care comes first and they can’t guarantee things will be ready to start running the Safari early.

You’d still be able to get one ride in and then go and line up for the Safari before regular guests get in. And there’s a chance it will start running earlier.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
That's true, though it would defeat the purpose of having early BGs if most of the ride's capacity would sit mostly unused until park open.

Even if only a couple hundred people ended up riding it would still be better than just not having it open at all, though.

Although depending on how many they called it could end up with a bottleneck and a longer wait than expected when the park first opens.
 

DisneyDodo

Well-Known Member
Even if only a couple hundred people ended up riding it would still be better than just not having it open at all, though.

Although depending on how many they called it could end up with a bottleneck and a longer wait than expected when the park first opens.
I definitely agree it would be better than nothing. But there are many approaches they could take to have the ride operating at full capacity from the beginning of Early Entry - they could even have a separate EE BG lottery (which only resort guests would be eligible for) a few minutes before the general one. Disney choosing to forgo letting ~750 additional guests ride RotR would be a huge waste. If anything, this ride should be opening before everything else.

Imagine coming up with a special line system specifically for the purpose of handling uniquely high demand, and then using it as an excuse to restrict supply.
 

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