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I would give it an overall A. The ride may not have huge thrills but it reallly wasnt met to be a thrill ride

"really wasn't meant to be a thrill ride"??? Someone should have informed Disney's marketing department then. :lol:

 

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I have seen him very easily every time I've been on the ride. You just have to look up in the tunnel. I enjoy looking at a different feature every time I ride. One time I'll just look at the eyes and then I'll just look at the swooping arm.

Wait a minute...haven't you and others stated many times that it's "great storytelling" to only show us the Yeti for a brief second and make us wonder what we saw? Now you're saying it's easy to see him and get a good look at him. Which is it?

And you can't really say that they should have had two AA's either. That's just dreaming too big.

Yeah you're right. What's the matter with me, expecting a company like Disney to dream big?

 

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The simple thing is, in its press releases Disney kept going on about how "the yeti AA is going to be the most advanced animatronic ever created" and how it had to be built into the ride, when it turns out that you only see it for two seconds lifting its arm up and down. Its just very dissapointing. Perhaps if Disney hadn't hyped it up so much, it wouldn't have been so dissapointing.

It probably is the most advanced AA ever created. That doesn't mean I think it is as good as S.I.R. or Timekeeper or even Imhotep, but it is kind of like comparing apples and oranges. I think it is pretty safe to say that Mr. Yeti is quite a bit bigger than any of those. Remember how terrible the Kong AA's were on Kongfrontation? I think it is probably better to compare Yeti to Kong to see the advancements. For me, the Yeti AA isn't the most important thing about the ride. Not even close.

 

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The simple thing is, in its press releases Disney kept going on about how "the yeti AA is going to be the most advanced animatronic ever created" and how it had to be built into the ride, when it turns out that you only see it for two seconds lifting its arm up and down. Its just very dissapointing. Perhaps if Disney hadn't hyped it up so much, it wouldn't have been so dissapointing.

Exactly!! And the fact that we only see it for such a short period makes me extremely skeptical that it's even all that advanced to begin with. It just doesn't make sense to build something really advanced and not want to showcase it.

 

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Wait a minute...haven't you and others stated many times that it's "great storytelling" to only show us the Yeti for a brief second and make us wonder what we saw? Now you're saying it's easy to see him and get a good look at him. Which is it?

It isn't great storytelling that you only see him for a few seconds. I think it is effective in the way it is presented. It is easy to see him, but you don't get to stare at the guy forever. I think the time you see the Yeti is just right. It almost seems like you wanted to hate this attraction before you ever got on it.

Yeah you're right. What's the matter with me, expecting a company like Disney to dream big?

Yeah but you have to be realistic. There is a difference in dreaming big and dreaming unrealistically. Having two Yeti AA's is being unrealistic to say the least.

 

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It probably is the most advanced AA ever created. That doesn't mean I think it is as good as S.I.R. or Timekeeper or even Imhotep, but it is kind of like comparing apples and oranges. I think it is pretty safe to say that Mr. Yeti is quite a bit bigger than any of those. Remember how terrible the Kong AA's were on Kongfrontation? I think it is probably better to compare Yeti to Kong to see the advancements. For me, the Yeti AA isn't the most important thing about the ride. Not even close.

Actually we'll never really know how the Yeti compares to Kong, any more than we know it compares to Imhotep and the others. It is just as much an "apple to orange comparison" because of the fact that we were able to stop and view Kong for a significant amount of time. Not so with the Yeti.

 

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Oh come on. Surely you can see that the Yeti move more fluidly than Kong. I don't care if you look at them for hours or for seconds. It is like comparing a IASW doll and Br'er Fox from Splash Mountain. I think you are overexaggerating the time you see the Yeti a bit. He IS actually visable.

 

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It almost seems like you wanted to hate this attraction before you ever got on it.

Well, if that were true then certainly no one could possibly accuse me of going into it with unrealistically high expectations. :lol: Truthfully though, I tend to approach every new big ticket attraction at Disney (and Universal, for that matter) as potentially being my new favorite attraction. With both Tower of Terror and Spiderman, that came true. Other attractions have come close. With EE, I did expect that it would be much better and I really was excited to experience it for the first time. I think it's fair to say, as a matter of fact, that I really WANTED to love EE. At the same time, I've learned not to have unrealistically high expectations. Unfortunately, EE was still a tremendous letdown all around.

Having two Yeti AA's is being unrealistic to say the least.

Why? You make it sound as though it's unheard of to have multiple AAs in a single attraction. Allow me to list a few attractions that you are apparently unaware of (all of which have multiple AAs): Pirates of the Caribbean (pretty advanced AAs as a matter of fact), Splash Mountain, American Adventure, Great Movie Ride, Star Tours, ....and the list goes on and on and on. How on earth is expecting two Yeti AAs "unrealistic to say the least"??

 

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Oh come on. Surely you can see that the Yeti move more fluidly than Kong. I don't care if you look at them for hours or for seconds. It is like comparing a IASW doll and Br'er Fox from Splash Mountain. I think you are overexaggerating the time you see the Yeti a bit. He IS actually visable.

What you have time enough to see is an arm swoop down toward you. Because you're going past it so fast, it's not unusual for people to think the entire AA has realistic movements. But it's not the case. If the train were stopped and you were allowed to watch the Yeti for the same amount of time that we were allowed to see Kong, I can assure you that you would not be nearly as impressed. Likewise, if you had just flown past Kong at the same speed we go past the Yeti, I guarantee people would be ranting and raving about it the same way they are (on these boards) about the Yeti.

 

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Why? You make it sound as though it's unheard of to have multiple AAs in a single attraction. Allow me to list a few attractions that you are apparently unaware of (all of which have multiple AAs): Pirates of the Caribbean (pretty advanced AAs as a matter of fact), Splash Mountain, American Adventure, Great Movie Ride, Star Tours, ....and the list goes on and on and on. How on earth is expecting two Yeti AAs "unrealistic to say the least"??

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Not all AA's cost the same amount of money. The Yeti is the most expensive AA ever created, if I remember correctly. The mountain construction and the queue construction were also very expensive. Those attractions that completely crossed my mind didn't have the added expense that EE had except for Splash Mountain. And we all know that very little money was spent on that queue (not that it is a bad thing, but that queue wasn't much of a consideration). Also Splash Mountain is basically a standard flume ride as a system, but there had to be extra time and money spent on the track switching techniques done on EE. Again, there's much more to this attraction than one AA. There was only so much money the Imagineers could use and only so much time to do it in. Creating two AA Yeti's was not a realistic goal.

 

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What you have time enough to see is an arm swoop down toward you.

And that movement is more impressive than anything Kong did, IMO. But don't get me wrong, Kong was very good for its time.

Really if you want to get technical, the Ihmotep AA is used for one big movement as well. When he reaches out to steal Reggie's soul. Other than that he is kinda stationary.

 

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Not all AA's cost the same amount of money. The Yeti is the most expensive AA ever created, if I remember correctly. The mountain construction and the queue construction were also very expensive. Those attractions that completely crossed my mind didn't have the added expense that EE had except for Splash Mountain. And we all know that very little money was spent on that queue (not that it is a bad thing, but that queue wasn't much of a consideration). Also Splash Mountain is basically a standard flume ride as a system, but there had to be extra time and money spent on the track switching techniques done on EE. Again, there's much more to this attraction than one AA. There was only so much money the Imagineers could use and only so much time to do it in. Creating two AA Yeti's was not a realistic goal.

The Imagineers had as much money as Disney was willing to put into the attraction. A lot of people have stated that they would have rather seen a more elaborate attraction and a less elaborate queue. As you've pointed out, that's just what they did with Splash Mountain. They should have done that with EE.

 

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And that movement is more impressive than anything Kong did, IMO. But don't get me wrong, Kong was very good for its time.

Really if you want to get technical, the Ihmotep AA is used for one big movement as well. When he reaches out to steal Reggie's soul. Other than that he is kinda stationary.

Once again, if we went flying past Imhotep as fast as we do the Yeti, people would likely find it much more impressive than it already is because they would think it was moving more. A lot of people assume that Harold (Abominable Snowman on the Matterhorn) is raising his arms and opening his mouth to growl. That's because you're traveling past him quickly (and you're actually only traveling about 18 mph past Harold).

 

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A lot of people have stated that they would have rather seen a more elaborate attraction and a less elaborate queue. As you've pointed out, that's just what they did with Splash Mountain. They should have done that with EE.

I'm not one of them. I think EE's queue is one of its biggest assets. Same for Kali River Rapids. Sure I wish EE and Kali were longer, but that doesn't mean I wish the queues had to be given up for that.

 

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Once again, if we went flying past Imhotep as fast as we do the Yeti, people would likely find it much more impressive than it already is because they would think it was moving more.

I disagree. People are impressed with the Yeti because of the size and movement combo. Not because it is as active as other great AA's. We've never seen something that big, move so well before in the parks. That's the whole point.

 

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I think EE's queue is one of its biggest assets.

I agree with you. And that's the problem in my opinion. I'm all for a great queue, but the first priority should be given to the attraction experience itself. Otherwise, it ends up being a letdown after an impressive queue. That's what happened with EE.

 

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I'm all for a great queue, but the first priority should be given to the attraction experience itself. Otherwise, it ends up being a letdown after an impressive queue. That's what happened with ROTM.

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I'm tired. Good discussion. And yeah I do like ROTM after multiple rides. Not my favorite thing at USF, but it is a fun attraction. And the queue is better than the ride, IMO. But I was beyond disapointed after my first ride.

 

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We've never seen something that big, move so well before in the parks. That's the whole point.

My point, though, is the AA is not really moving as impressively as you think it is. The speed at which you go past it creates the illusion that the AA has more movement. If it truly did, then Disney would want us to see it. Clearly, they placed the Yeti in that location in order to mask the fact that it doesn't really have advanced motion.

 

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My point, though, is the AA is not really moving as impressively as you think it is. The speed at which you go past it creates the illusion that the AA has more movement. If it truly did, then Disney would want us to see it. Clearly, they placed the Yeti in that location in order to mask the fact that it doesn't really have advanced motion.

Goodnight

 

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:lol: :wave:

I'm tired. Good discussion. And yeah I do like ROTM after multiple rides. Not my favorite thing at USF, but it is a fun attraction. And the queue is better than the ride, IMO. But I was beyond disapointed after my first ride.

I agree that it's been a good discussion. It's been an enjoyable and intelligent debate. Have a good evening! :wave: