Dumb guests doing dumb things.....

DisneyJoe

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The first school district I worked at issued Chromebooks to all the students. They were allowed to take them home.
Needless to say.... 6th grade boys and Chromebooks is not a good idea because the little *angels* were going home and downloading triple-x-rated material, then using the school Google accounts to share with each other what they had downloaded by way of Google Forms and Google Sheets. They kept it all under wraps.... It was only discovered because one of the girls in the class saw that a boy was playing agar.io and had uploaded a hardcore picture as his icon.

We had to confiscate every laptop for about two weeks, in which they had to have the hard drives completely erased, programs reinstalled, tougher firewalls installed, phone calls were made to all the parents, and letters sent home.

And THAT is why I'm a firm believer that if any laptop computers are to be used at school, they need to stay in the classroom. The kids don't need to be taking them home where we have no control over the content.
My 10th grade son has had a Chromebook since 6th grade that he can bring home. I asked him about this since he is very proficient technically. He said from 6th-8th grade, middle school, there were certain sites that they knew how to get to, but not many. When he was in 9th grade last year and now this year, they got new Chromebooks with new software, and the app on the machine is very good at blocking everything. Their Google Classroom also allows the teachers and IT admins to see everything that they do on them. He heard that the middle school systems have been locked down now too. They use iboss.
 
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LukeS7

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It's hard. Honestly, it's part of the reason why I'm changing how my students learn language. They'll be sitting or standing in a circle with their materials underneath them. They'll actually use the language to learn it. (It is a communication tool after all.) They'll still get the details of grammar & vocab, but it'll make sense since they'll be communicating - not filling in blanks conjugating a verb or translating a word. All dittos I used to hand out for help (that were shoved in the desks and never looked at) and resources will be online for them.
Now nobody can hide behind their desk to play on their Chromebooks or their phones or do someone else's homework or vape (yup, that too).
I actually had a college professor who did this. Instead of solely doing work sheets and filling in blanks, he would have everybody get up out of their desks and either he would point to an object and we'd have to say what it was, or (for body parts vocabulary), he'd say a word and we'd have to point to it. It sounds like a very non-college level exercise, but I learned more from his classes in 3 semesters than I did in 3 years of high school Spanish. His degree was something with neurology (I think) and how the brain learns things, so it was interesting seeing that applied.

EDIT: Oh, also, not from Disney but from my job as a lifeguard 6 years back, I had a couple curse me out at the front gate (directly next to the crowded kiddie pool) for not letting them in with their expired passes. They had had nearly 6 months to renew them and didn't and we had a hard cutoff of July 4th weekend to stop taking the old ones. I told them "Have a nice day" as they were leaving and was greeted with a middle finger from the lady. Then the guy comes back up to the gate telling me I shouldn't have said that and how his wife(?) "wasn't cursing at you". He held up the line of people with valid passes, I politely asked him to move so I could help the other guests and he steps around our table and gets confrontational so I tell him "Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to leave". He got ed, asked for my name, and left.

He ended up calling their HOA and complaining about the "rude lifeguard" and the HOA told my boss to let them in. They were there for an hour. I got the last laugh however because my boss had me write up an incident report (expletives and all) which was provided to the HOA and they lost their access to the pool.
 
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Chef Mickey

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In all my years, I have never seen any of this drunkeness I've read about. Either I'm blind, or I'm lucky and should play the lottery (usually the retort around these parts).
I was just at EPCOT several days last week and saw plenty of drunken behavior that I wished wasn't there.

It's not like it's out of control, but it doesn't have to be. My argument has always been even 1 drunk person can ruin another person's night or impact a child in a negative way that shouldn't happen at Disney.
 

KBLovedDisney

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I once saw a fellow with his family at the POFQ bus stop at 7:30 am, swigging a bottle of Budweiser. I'm all for the "it's 5 o'clock somewhere" mantra but that was pretty awful. I mentioned it once on the other board and was reprimanded for daring to regulate drinking hours and locations. Also, Budweiser -- maybe the most egregious error of all.

But yes, loud idiots - drink or not - are highly annoying.
If they weren't singing "Yo Ho A Pirate's Life for Me", then yeah. Very unacceptable.
 

jaklgreen

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In all my years, I have never seen any of this drunkeness I've read about. Either I'm blind, or I'm lucky and should play the lottery (usually the retort around these parts).

The only times I see it is when I go for the F&WF and happen to have a event on the weekend(PFTS). It is the locals with their matching drink around the world shirts that block the walkways and swear like sailors. I am surprised at how many of these groups go there and drink enough of the tiny portions at exorbitant prices, enough to get that drunk. They have to put down a small fortune You would think that going to the local pub would make more financial sense. I don't care if they are drunk, since I am an adult and would avoid that time with my kids. But I do wish that Disney would block off a designated walking path so that people could get by.
 

Tom 55

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A few year back I was waiting for the bus at MK. POP is the last stop all the way down the end closest to Contemporary hotel. From one of the other hotel waiting areas a guy wants to have a smoke. The bus stops are not authorized smoking areas. So he walk across the road were the buses use to leave after loading and stand on the island in the middle smoking with his back to traffic. All the out going buses come to a stop behind him. When the out going buses stop the in coming buses cant get in. He is oblivious as to the problem he was causing. There was a CM nearby so I pointed to the guy. The CM turns around and see him. Starts running over to the smoker who just puts out the cigarette and runs back across to stand in line like nothing happened. When I left on the bus the CM was still talking to the man.
 

Chef Mickey

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I once saw a fellow with his family at the POFQ bus stop at 7:30 am, swigging a bottle of Budweiser. I'm all for the "it's 5 o'clock somewhere" mantra but that was pretty awful. I mentioned it once on the other board and was reprimanded for daring to regulate drinking hours and locations. Also, Budweiser -- maybe the most egregious error of all.

But yes, loud idiots - drink or not - are highly annoying.
Lol...right. I'm about as socially liberal as it gets...I think drugs should be legal too. However, time and place for everything.

Disney is private property and largely families. For this reason, I just don't see how alcohol benefits families. I'm OK with wine at dinner, after dinner drinks...but hard liquor at bars and tons of beer around EPCOT for "drink around the world" idiots? I'm just not a fan. Also, I understand the whole "but it's profitable" thing. I just think Disney should be better than that. On a $5B/quarter parks business, the alcohol revenue isn't going to make or break them.

Also, just wait for something bad to happen (hopefully never) and they find out the person was drunk. They'll be hell to pay and Disney will be forced to react to it.

I mean a strip club would be fun/profitable too, but they wouldn't put that in? Or would they?
 

Chef Mickey

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The thread title of this gave me the answer "Dumb guests doing dumb things"?

Arguing over a mega corporation based on a mouse on the internet?
I mean, you can make anything sound stupid if you boil it down like that. I'd guess probably most of the things you did today were pointless.
 

Hcalvert

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My 10th grade son has had a Chromebook since 6th grade that he can bring home. I asked him about this since he is very proficient technically. He said from 6th-8th grade, middle school, there were certain sites that they knew how to get to, but not many. When he was in 9th grade last year and now this year, they got new Chromebooks with new software, and the app on the machine is very good at blocking everything. Their Google Classroom also allows the teachers and IT admins to see everything that they do on them. He heard that the middle school systems have been locked down now too. They use iboss.

I have been advocating for this for years. What is the use of giving students unique logins and passwords if they are not going to be tracked (other than needing it for Google apps)? I'll gladly write a grant for better software to cover the cost. When I taught in England, we would go to a computer lab and I could lock what site they could go on so that they could not go anywhere else except a list of sites I approved. That was nearly 10 years ago, so technology had to advance even further since then.
 

disneyspirit

Active Member
I don't know if this counts as a dumb thing ... we waited on the single rider lane for Test Track, it would be nice to ride together but not worth the much longer standby line ... I'm told to stand here, lane 2/whatever). This girl in front of me turns around and asks me if I'd go on some other line to switch with her friend. No. I'm pretty sure the CM would have told me to go back to my lane but if she wanted to ride with her friend, go wait in the standby line. I guess the dumb thing is thinking I'd go along with it.
 

Disney4family

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My 10th grade son has had a Chromebook since 6th grade that he can bring home. I asked him about this since he is very proficient technically. He said from 6th-8th grade, middle school, there were certain sites that they knew how to get to, but not many. When he was in 9th grade last year and now this year, they got new Chromebooks with new software, and the app on the machine is very good at blocking everything. Their Google Classroom also allows the teachers and IT admins to see everything that they do on them. He heard that the middle school systems have been locked down now too. They use iboss.
We have GoGuardian
 

PiXie Mom

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Years ago we had a situation. We were having a M&G with Cinderella and the Prince near the side of the castle on the path that cuts to the Tomorrowland direction. My daughter was four then and dressed as a princess herself for the park visit. She had a wand with a star on top as a prop to go with her princess costume. As we were meeting and getting pictures with Cinderella and the Prince, he kneels down to get closer to my daughter's height to talk with her, compliments her costume, saying she would be welcome to attend future Balls at the castle, so on. My daughter was loving it, and decided to twirl and show off the dress. As she did, her wand prop accidentally nailed him right in his area that all men fear being hit in. It happened so fast before I or my husband could stop her. It looked and sounded painful. Prince goes down and looks to be in bad pain. I felt terrible and immediately apologized, and told my daughter to please be careful swinging that prop around. It was so embarrassing because not only did Cinderella, Prince, and the CM handler see this, but the line of people behind us up the walkway waiting to do the M&G. It was a terrible situation to happen. The Prince finally got up off the ground, but you could tell he was hurting and felt sick. I apologized and he was very nice and knew it was a accident. Later in the day my husband suggested we get something nice for the Prince since we all felt bad for what happened. That night after the park while having dinner at a Denny's off property near the LBV area we decided to buy that CM a gift card to the restaurant. We also went to a Walgreens and bought a sympathy card to put the Dennys gift card in. On our second visit to MK that week, that same Prince was there again same place doing M&G with Cinderella beside the castle. We waited in line and when we got to him we told him again how sorry we were for him getting blasted the way he did by the wand prop, and gave him the card.
 
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larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
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I was just at EPCOT several days last week and saw plenty of drunken behavior that I wished wasn't there.

It's not like it's out of control, but it doesn't have to be. My argument has always been even 1 drunk person can ruin another person's night or impact a child in a negative way that shouldn't happen at Disney.
Well, for your sake, I suggest you never, ever go to the real Oktoberfest.
I once saw a fellow with his family at the POFQ bus stop at 7:30 am, swigging a bottle of Budweiser. I'm all for the "it's 5 o'clock somewhere" mantra but that was pretty awful. I mentioned it once on the other board and was reprimanded for daring to regulate drinking hours and locations. Also, Budweiser -- maybe the most egregious error of all.
Budweiser???

Holy cow, folks -- if you're going to start your day by drinking beer for breakfast, for heaven's sake, drink GOOD BEER!
 

PiXie Mom

Member
Nothing like a Moons over my Hammy to cure getting clobbered in the goods. I feel bad for the prince but your family handled it nice doing that card for him. It is hard to predict what small children will do, and your daughter clearly had no intention of hurting someone. Sounded like she was just in the moment. Accidents happen.
Yes she was just star struck getting to meet him and Cinderella. I or my husband should have held onto the wand while she met the characters. That was dumb parenting on our part.
 

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