'Doctor Strange' preview coming to One Man's Dream in October

ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Donaldfan1934 said:
Depressing, just depressing. Without Roy, the Disney legacy is heading towards the point of no return.
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One day not too far in the future Disney will join Kodak, RCA, Polaroid, Montgomery Wards, J.J. Newberrys on the list of great companies which USED to be and were all destroyed in the name of 'Maximizing Shareholder Value' and they all neglected their key customers in order to cater to Wall St
 
Jimmy Thick

Jimmy Thick

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NothingRhymeswithOrange said:
Interesting theory here... could it be that anyone after 1994 that has joined the Avengers is available to use in WDW? This would make sense since Doctor Strange didn't officially join the Avengers until 2010 but was involved in comic events with the Avengers like Infinity Gauntlet.
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If the characters are not in IOA right now, Disney can use them. They just can't call them Marvel characters.

Btw, Universal cannot use any MCU likenesses nor can Universal make any new Marvel attractions in Florida.

This is info from someone who designed IOA.

Jimmy Thick- Internet lawyers are phunny.
 
Tony the Tigger

Tony the Tigger

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hakunamatata said:
I think Disney is doing things like this to see if they can test the water. They are trying to either get a reaction out of Uni or get Uni to make a move that somehow voids the licensing agreement.
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If that's the case, and Uni wanted to do the most damage, I'm thinking they'd let Disney waste the money on installation first, and then take action. It would cause financial loss as well as embarrassment (and possibly a little blowback.)
 
Donaldfan1934

Donaldfan1934

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Jimmy Thick said:
If the characters are not in IOA right now, Disney can use them. They just can't call them Marvel characters.

Btw, Universal cannot use any MCU likenesses nor can Universal make any new Marvel attractions in Florida.

This is info from someone who designed IOA.

Jimmy Thick- Internet lawyers are phunny.
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Just as I always thought. Doing anything Marvel anywhere in Florida is basically a legal stalemate. Thanks for the confirmation.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Jimmy Thick said:
Prove me wrong please.

Kthxbi.

Jimmy Thick- #rickrolled.
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The fact that Universal is only limited by the original terms of the contract which make no reference to not being able to do more if Marvel is bought by another company. Whether you or plenty of other Pixie Dusters like it or not Universal can do whatever they want short of something ridiculous like putting Spider-Man in a tutu.

There's also been no indications from real insiders that what you say is the case at all.
 
Princess Leia

Princess Leia

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Doctor Strange's future at the resorts probably hinges on the box office and maybe critical reception. While the MCU hasn't had a clear flop, there are definitely movies that don't live up to the rest of the series. First list is the reception based on Rotten Tomatoes, second list is box office performance (which I understand is skewed from lack of 3D in the earliest installments, and ticket prices getting higher)
  1. Iron Man- (94%)
  2. The Avengers (92%)
  3. Guardians of the Galaxy (91%)
  4. Captain America: Civil War (90%)
  5. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (89%)
  6. Ant-Man (81%)
  7. Captain America: The First Avenger (80%)
  8. Iron Man 3 (79%)
  9. Thor (77%- personally, I prefer this one to the first Cap movie)
  10. Avengers: Age of Ultron (75%)
  11. Iron Man 2 (71%)
  12. The Incredible Hulk- $263,427,551 (67%- way underrated, I love this movie)
  13. Thor: The Dark World (66%)
Box Office
  1. The Avengers- $1,519,557,910
  2. Avengers: Age of Ultron- $1,405,413,868
  3. Iron Man 3- $1,215,439,994
  4. Captain America: Civil War- $1,152,760,580
  5. Guardians of the Galaxy- $773,312,399
  6. Captain America: The Winter Soldier- $714,421,503
  7. Thor: The Dark World- $644,602,516
  8. Iron Man 2- $623,933,331
  9. Iron Man- $585,174,222
  10. Ant-Man- $519,445,163
  11. Thor- $449,326,618
  12. Captain America: The First Avenger- $370,569,774
  13. The Incredible Hulk- $263,427,551
Guardians is the fluke at the box office. It wasn't a sequel, and it featured characters that nobody knew about. I'm guessing that Doctor Strange will gross between $500K and $600K, considering that it's a standalone feature about a character that many don't know about. Since it has the Marvel name, people will definitely see it. As for the critical side of things, I don't know. I think that it will definitely have it's detractors since it cast Tilda Swinton in a role that belonged to an Asian man (they could have cast an Asian woman but did they? Noooo).
Doctor Strange isn't going to be a flop. It's got the Marvel armor to protect it from being one. Critically though, I'm not so certain. If Disney can find a decent way to promote the character in the parks though, I don't think I'd mind. They don't have many properties to choose from when it comes to the MCU in the parks, and Guardians deserves a decent presence.

I feel like I've gone off on a tangent somewhere... :confused: I guess that in conclusion, we'll have to wait a couple more months to see how long Strange will be at Disney World.
 
Jimmy Thick

Jimmy Thick

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Mike S said:
The fact that Universal is only limited by the original terms of the contract which make no reference to not being able to do more if Marvel is bought by another company. Whether you or plenty of other Pixie Dusters like it or not Universal can do whatever they want short of something ridiculous like putting Spider-Man in a tutu.

There's also been no indications from real insiders that what you say is the case at all.
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Where in the contract does it state that Universal can build new attractions?

Why haven't Universal built any new Marvel attractions since the park has opened?

Why has new popular characters like Star Lord, for example, not been seen at Universal?

Here is the answer, believe it of not, they can't.

Jimmy Thick- Always love this topic.
 
Phicinfan

Phicinfan

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Jimmy Thick said:
Where in the contract does it state that Universal can build new attractions?

Why haven't Universal built any new Marvel attractions since the park has opened?

Why has new popular characters like Star Lord, for example, not been seen at Universal?

Here is the answer, believe it of not, they can't.

Jimmy Thick- Always love this topic.
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I am in no way questioning you, but I could have sworn there was rumor and or belief that a new Avengers area was being built or about to be built at Universal. Or at least I remember reading about it...was that not the case?
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Phicinfan said:
I am in no way questioning you, but I could have sworn there was rumor and or belief that a new Avengers area was being built or about to be built at Universal. Or at least I remember reading about it...was that not the case?
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That is the case and it's a rumor originating from @marni1971 who holds a lot more water than the Thick one. It was just one ride though that might have needed the removal of Dr. Doom.

The fact that Storm Force Acceleration opened a year after the rest of the park also proves that they can add new rides as long as it's reasonably approved by Marvel. Obviously, "we're not letting you do anything because we're owned by Disney now herp derp" doesn't lie within reasonable approval.
 
marni1971

marni1971

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Premium Member
Jimmy Thick said:
Where in the contract does it state that Universal can build new attractions?

Why haven't Universal built any new Marvel attractions since the park has opened?

Why has new popular characters like Star Lord, for example, not been seen at Universal?

Here is the answer, believe it of not, they can't.

Jimmy Thick- Always love this topic.
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Quoted for posterity.
 
Jones14

Jones14

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I'd be interested to know, in the case that said conversation were to happen, which characters Disney would be vying for. I'd be even more interested to know how sweet (or not) the deal turns out to be for both sides.

It's a shame, really, that Disney doesn't have any in-house properties that could fix the problems they're looking to solve with Marvel right now. I mean, Big Hero 6 definitely doesn't combine healthcare and robotics in an interesting way, nor would it serve as a more than suitable IP tie-in for a Future World pavilion centered around those two things.

And of course, the Incredibles isn't an animated superhero film that would lend itself well to a high capacity D-ticket in the Launch Bay plot. And it definitely doesn't have a sequel on the way, so there's no opportunities for synergy. And, you know, superheroes and robots don't move merchandise.

Oh, wait.
 

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