'Doctor Strange' preview coming to One Man's Dream in October

[pax_65]

I am still in the camp of no move previews in this space. Call me ancient or not adjusting to the times but to me this area is sacred and previews diminish the whole place for so many reasons.

I agree. And speaking of ancient, I remember how they used to have Steamboat Willie playing in the Main Street Cinema and you could sit and watch it (and enjoy the air conditioning, which our kids enjoyed when it was getting hot in the park). The film didn't sell anything, it didn't promote anything, it didn't draw large crowds or help with park capacity. What it did was add to the overall theme of the park, and connect the park to it's past. On Main Street in the Magic Kingdom, it just makes sense that Steamboat Willie would play in the movie theater.

In the same way, if you're going to have a tribute to Walt in a park, it makes sense to play One Man's Dream in that attraction!

 

[Princess Leia]

I'm actually surprised they can use Dr. Strange. He's part of the New Avengers, but I guess that because he's not part of the 'regular' Avengers, Disney can use him for short periods of time (until Universal sues).

Black Panther is definitely a part of the Avengers, so he's out, as is Captain Marvel. I'm not sure that Guardians and Dr. Strange can make a decent superhero area. Sure, they're what Disney World can use (for now), but it doesn't seem right... Unless they make a Dr. Strange special effects show. That'd be sort of neat to see.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

I'm actually surprised they can use Dr. Strange. He's part of the New Avengers, but I guess that because he's not part of the 'regular' Avengers, Disney can use him for short periods of time (until Universal sues).

Black Panther is definitely a part of the Avengers, so he's out, as is Captain Marvel. I'm not sure that Guardians and Dr. Strange can make a decent superhero area. Sure, they're what Disney World can use (for now), but it doesn't seem right... Unless they make a Dr. Strange special effects show. That'd be sort of neat to see.

The strangest (pun intended) part of all this is that you when skip to 4:48 in this old video of Marvel Mania at USH, you can see Doctor Strange's cape and amulet. Shouldn't this mean that he should be part of the master licensing agreement too?

 

[Princess Leia]

The strangest (pun intended) part of all this is that you skip to 4:48 in this old video of Marvel Mania at USH, you can see Doctor Strange's cape and amulet. Shouldn't this mean that he should be part of the master licensing agreement too?

Like Guardians, I think Disney wants to see how much they can get away with.
Also, isn't the Star Wars clip show going away? Or was that just a rumor?

 

[Donaldfan1934]

Like Guardians, I think Disney wants to see how much they can get away with.
Also, isn't the Star Wars clip show going away? Or was that just a rumor?

There has been no official confirmation that I know of.

 

[Princess Leia]

The Avengers vs. the New Avengers is where things get tricky. There are members of the Avengers who are also in the NA (Iron Man, Luke Cage, Captain America, Spider-Man), but some are strictly in the New Avengers (Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Daredevil, Doctor Strange). Universal only gets the rights to members of Avengers, F4, X-Men, and Spider-Man, right?
What's unfortunate is that even if Disney wanted to do something with the Defenders (which would be tricky since the shows are rated MA), they wouldn't be able to include Luke Cage, and it would look pretty bad to use the brand with even 3/4 of the members, since those members are all white.

 

[Haymarket2008]

I'm assuming the audition for a Doctor Strange would be for some kind of Hub stage show? If it isn't a meet and greet, I'd assume it would be that.

 

[YodaMan]

I'm assuming the audition for a Doctor Strange would be for some kind of Hub stage show? If it isn't a meet and greet, I'd assume it would be that.

I would have to assume as much. Since it's an equity audition, it's almost definitely not a meet and greet and instead something where the performer will have a mic. And since I can't envision a full-blown new stage show for Dr Strange, I'd imagine it's something smaller like an occasional short presentation at Center Stage like they're doing with Elena.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

There has been no official confirmation that I know of.

rogue One is coming up in December.

 

[Mike S]

I'm assuming the audition for a Doctor Strange would be for some kind of Hub stage show? If it isn't a meet and greet, I'd assume it would be that.

I would have to assume as much. Since it's an equity audition, it's almost definitely not a meet and greet and instead something where the performer will have a mic. And since I can't envision a full-blown new stage show for Dr Strange, I'd imagine it's something smaller like an occasional short presentation at Center Stage like they're doing with Elena.

Hopefully it's better than the godawful Star Wars one that's there now but I would have my doubts.

 

[Homerclaus]

I've got to believe the movement of movie previews into things like OMD is, in part, due to the shift in demographic WDW is looking for (even considering less is available in DHS). Shooting for more one-and-done people and less passholders, things with charm and smaller draw are being pushed aside for one-and-doners to hit the big items during their visit.

Also, is there a thread somewhere to dump on the Star Wars stage show at DHS....woof.

 

[doctornick]

A complete Marvel land in DHS would be awesome. I'm talking an attraction each for GotG, Captain Marvel, Black Panther, and Dr Strange. That won't happen though because that would make sense.

Captain Marvel and Black Panther (as well as Ant-Man FWIW) are both significant Avengers member and would (IMHO) clearly be in the "families" of characters already used at Universal. Dr. Strange is someone whom I have thought was in the "grey area" of whether he would be available for Disney use or not. It certainly sounds like he falls on the not prohibited list and Disney could make an attraction based on him.

Among the movies, I think The Inhumans is another property that could far in this grey area and potentially be used by Disney. Of course, their movie, was postponed (cancelled?) though the concept of Inhumans has been used on Agents of SHIELD. On that note, I actually think an attraction based on SHIELD might be allowed in the parks. Have they ever done anything for the TV show in WDW that might hint as to it being available?

The Netflix shows (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Punisher) as well as Cloak & Dagger which will be appearing on Freeform are all characters that potentially could be used in WDW -- but probably are too "dark" to be considered even if they could be used by Disney.

Edit: I'll also point out that there were strong rumors about some sort of an "agreement" between Disney and Comcast occurring about a year ago regarding the future of Marvel at Uni and thus the plans for the Hulk coaster update as well as an Avengers E-ticket would proceed. While I doubt Uni "gave up" any rights, I've always been of the mind that negotiations may have allowed both sides to "clarify" any grey area rights so it would be clear who if anyone would have access to certain characters.

 

[maroonmol]

Does anyone actually have a complete list of the Marvel characters which WDW can use?

 

[Princess Leia]

Also, is there a thread somewhere to dump on the Star Wars stage show at DHS....woof.

I just watched that on YouTube, and it was quite honestly one of the lamest things I've seen Disney World produce. The pyrotechnics were the best part, and they weren't even amazing. Also, Boba Fett's lines were pathetic.

 

[doctornick]

I'm actually surprised they can use Dr. Strange. He's part of the New Avengers, but I guess that because he's not part of the 'regular' Avengers, Disney can use him for short periods of time (until Universal sues).

Black Panther is definitely a part of the Avengers, so he's out, as is Captain Marvel. I'm not sure that Guardians and Dr. Strange can make a decent superhero area. Sure, they're what Disney World can use (for now), but it doesn't seem right... Unless they make a Dr. Strange special effects show. That'd be sort of neat to see.

To be clear, it isn't as clear cut as "is the character an Avenger?" but rather "is the character in the same family as a character used at Universal?" That's significant because what you are really asking is something more like "Is this character in the same family as Captain America?" more or less and it becomes questionable. Lawyers could make arguments for either side effectively as to what constitutes a "family".

That said, the biggest issue with Dr. Strange IMHO is that he was in the Defenders for a while with the Hulk (who is obviously used at Uni). But that was a long time ago and forgotten/not really referenced any more and all of the involved characters were established ahead of time on their own as solo guys. Which begs another question about "families" -- does an established character with their own mythos suddenly become a member of another character's "family" by serving together on a superhero team?

The strangest (pun intended) part of all this is that you skip to 4:48 in this old video of Marvel Mania at USH, you can see Doctor Strange's cape and amulet. Shouldn't this mean that he should be part of the master licensing agreement too?

That looks like incidental use anyway and wouldn't be covered by the contract (Dr. Strange is also pictured on one of the panels in IoA as well, which would also be incidental). Furthermore, any past use in California is irrelevant since the are no longer currently used. If IoA closed down the Marvel land and stopped using the characters, then Disney would be free to use any characters at WDW since the prohibition comes into play specifically because Uni is using them.

 

[doctornick]

Hopefully it's better than the godawful Star Wars one that's there now but I would have my doubts.

I've got to imagine that Dr. Strange might be some sort of special effects laden "magic show" where he entertains by using his powers, which would at least be a new and different concept. Of course the execution would be important....

 

[doctornick]

Regarding the use of the OMD theater for the preview, I wholeheartedly agree with having the Walt show there all the time (until the attraction closes). They should use the Sounds Dangerous theater for previews (the SW clip show is pointless) or the flex theater near RNR. Or, since they are re building the park anyway and the movie previews seem to be an ongoing thing, why not build a theater specifically for use for previews, including having in theater effects the way the Magic Eye does. Would at least provide a permanent solution but be appropriate for an entertainment theme for DHS.

As for previews, I'd guess Dr. Strange would last until Moana replaces it and then Rogue One replaces that.

 

[bhg469]

I wonder if anyone will ask dr strange to say penguin

 

[Princess Leia]

Does anyone actually have a complete list of the Marvel characters which WDW can use?

If they're not in F4, Avengers, X-Men, or Spider-Man, I think they're fair game. However, most of their characters are involved in those families. Inhumans would be an interesting bet for Disney, but I'm starting to feel like they'll include the royal family on Agents of Shield instead of a movie (just a guess).
Cloak & Dagger and Punisher both made their first appearances in Spider-Man comics, so they might be out too.. though like the Defenders individual Netflix appearances, I'm going to say that getting Punisher in the parks would already be pretty difficult.

 

[Princess Leia]

Regarding the use of the OMD theater for the preview, I wholeheartedly agree with having the Walt show there all the time (until the attraction closes). They should use the Sounds Dangerous theater for previews (the SW clip show is pointless) or the flex theater near RNR. Or, since they are re building the park anyway and the movie previews seem to be an ongoing thing, why not build a theater specifically for use for previews, including having in theater effects the way the Magic Eye does. Would at least provide a permanent solution but be appropriate for an entertainment theme for DHS.

As for previews, I'd guess Dr. Strange would last until Moana replaces it and then Rogue One replaces that.

Considering how the Star Wars clip show has pretty bad ratings, I'm going to have to hope that they put trailers in that theater. Rogue One will probably be going in there anyways.