Do you think Walt Disney World is running out room?

[juniorthomas]

I'll save you some money. Go to Google maps and look at the images.

mic drop

 

[danlb_2000]

Remember, from the 1/3 roughly left, not all is suitable for building. Sinkholes, swamp, unsuitable land. Poor access. Flood plain.

One, maybe 1 1/2 parks, more resorts, a Waterpark if need be.

But let's not talk about mythical more parks until the ones they have are satisfactory.

The other things you also need to look at with the land that is left is how many large contigous chunks there are. 1/3 might seems like a lot of space but not if it's borken up into a lot of little pieces, which a lot of it is.

 

[J03Y]

there is around 25,000 acres of land in Disney World, so yeah they're got PLENTY of room.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I do think it's quite nice that they set aside some land for conservation.

There is nothing nice about it. It's required by the deals with the state.

During my cp in 09, they told us only about 35% of the land had been built on

Not sure about exact percentages, but Disney does like to pretend that Shades of Green, Celebration, the Four Seasons and Golden Oak, and other various edge parcels were never sold off.

there is around 25,000 acres of land in Disney World, so yeah they're got PLENTY of room.

Maybe you should look at some of the Reedy Creek Improvement District maps and writings.

 

[midwest_mice]

There is so much room left. On Google Earth and other online maps, you can see how large the WDW really is. They would have to do water management canals like they have in the past and clear alot of wooded areas, but there is plenty of room for many more resorts, waterparks and a few more theme parks as well.

 

[marni1971]

Guys.... you can't build on all the land that is left. Don't google it. Look at the RCID Land Use Policy.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Guys.... you can't build on all the land that is left. Don't google it. Look at the RCID Land Use Policy.

Easier to play Armchair Imagineer using satellite imagery that shows no constraints like property boundaries, conservation land, poor building conditions or any other factors.

 

[J03Y]

Maybe you should look at some of the Reedy Creek Improvement District maps and writings.

no i won't okay let's not pretend that there's not that much land enough to make a new water park or theme park okay i'm not saying that they can make an entire city from what's left i'm saying there's enough to bring something new aside from adding to what's there. and by 25,000 acres i mean that's the entire resort it's 25,000 acres.

 

[lazyboy97o]

no i won't okay let's not pretend that there's not that much land enough to make a new water park or theme park okay i'm not saying that they can make an entire city from what's left i'm saying there's enough to bring something new aside from adding to what's there. and by 25,000 acres i mean that's the entire resort it's 25,000 acres.

The Reedy Creek Improvement District plays pretend?

 

[marni1971]

no i won't okay let's not pretend that there's not that much land enough to make a new water park or theme park okay i'm not saying that they can make an entire city from what's left i'm saying there's enough to bring something new aside from adding to what's there. and by 25,000 acres i mean that's the entire resort it's 25,000 acres.

Okay.... How about for real there isn't that much land left?

And they've sold 5000 acres in little over a decade? Wow.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

The area inside the ring road is DLRP.
3rd gate to the east, hotel expansion and water park west of that. Original MGM Europe expansion to the west of the rail lines.

And the Davy Crocket resort area and the golf course? They are part of the DLP resort, but outside the ring. Is the land owned by DLP?

(I stayed at the DC once. It was great! I had a lovely time)

 

[The Empress Lilly]

there is around 25,000 acres of land in Disney World, so yeah they're got PLENTY of room.

Of WDW's 25,000 acres the amount that remains undeveloped is ...1,321 acres.

That's right, WDW already uses 95% of the land it owns. A mere five percent remains for future use. Barring redevelopment, or change in status of land, such as those five percent that is in use for agriculture.

 

[Walt 1901]

Is the property that was sold really gone or does TWDC have the first right to buy it back if it is to be resold. I know celebration was deannexed from the reedy creek so that the home owners didn't have a vote in the district, but is it sold off.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Is the property that was sold really gone or does TWDC have the first right to buy it back if it is to be resold. I know celebration was deannexed from the reedy creek so that the home owners didn't have a vote in the district, but is it sold off.

The land that has been sold has also been deannexed. Disney also no longer has any connection with Celebration except some offices located on the property.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Of WDW's 25,000 acres the amount that remains undeveloped is ...1,321 acres.

That's right, WDW already uses 95% of the land it owns. A mere five percent remains for future use. Barring redevelopment, or change in status of land, such as those five percent that is in use for agriculture.

Do you consider all areas that currently contain main or access roads to be developed land or areas that with some modification could become useable for Theme Parks or other development? (or part of the 1321 acres?)

 

[Goofyernmost]

Guys.... you can't build on all the land that is left. Don't google it. Look at the RCID Land Use Policy.

Does anyone really believe that RCID isn't under the direct thumb of Disney and couldn't change any land use policy in a heartbeat. It may have it's own charter but you have to know that the puppet strings have been kept pretty tight over the years. And who would be able to stop them. Disney Co. may not have the same power over Central Florida it had when Walt set it up, but you can believe that with the expense that the surrounding areas have in infrastructure in the area they can't really take a chance on waking the sleeping giant.

Good god, just the construction at the intersection of Rte. 4 and Rte. 192 has been perpetually happening since my first visit in 1983. It's never without being under redesign and that's just that one intersection. To their credit they upgrade way more often the Disney itself.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Do you consider all areas that currently contain main or access roads to be developed land or areas that with some modification could become useable for Theme Parks or other development? (or part of the 1321 acres?)

I use Reedy Creek's numbers and definitions. RCID combines 'facilities and roads' into a single category of developed land, of 3,080 acres.

Page 2B-8, here:
http://www.rcid.org/Portals/0/Documents/Comprehensive_Plan/2020_Comprehensive_Plan.pdf

 

[danlb_2000]

Of WDW's 25,000 acres the amount that remains undeveloped is ...1,321 acres.

That's right, WDW already uses 95% of the land it owns. A mere five percent remains for future use. Barring redevelopment, or change in status of land, such as those five percent that is in use for agriculture.

Not sure where you got the 1,321 number from but here are the numbers from the RCID Master Plan:

All numbers in acres

Total Land 24742
Developed 9195
Water 1373
Undeveloped 14174

The undeveloped land breaks down like this:

Suitable 2825
Marginally Suitable 2256
Unsuitable 9093

 

[plutoismyhero]

Its almost impossible especially at the rate they are going

 

[danlb_2000]

Here is the land use map from the RCID Plan. The red areas are the ones suitable for development.