Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Especially on days they hand out FPs on TSM rather than have you insert your ticket.
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Do away with Fast Pass?
- Thread starter GrannyJill2
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Especially on days they hand out FPs on TSM rather than have you insert your ticket.
CBOMB
Active Member
Then I take it he's French?
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Nothing wrong with a bit of dead Trigger, better for you than beef. Time Disney had it on the menu
I've never run around for FPs. If the FP return time exceeds the wait time for the attraction I go to by more than 2 hours then I just get in the standby. I have never planned my day around FPs. Usually there are other attractions/shows in the area that will eat up my time before my FP return window so it always works out perfectly for me. If you have to run around, then you aren't working the system properly. I once got a FP for Space Mountain and did quite a few attractions in Tomorrowland before my return time. I certainly wouldn't have called that running around. That's why I never understand people who get FPs for Toy Story Mania at 9:30am for a return time of noon instead of just getting in line, when the wait is only, at most, 40 minutes. The other attractions don't fill up as fast so lines would still be reasonable when you got off.
That's not the point of FP. FP essentially redistributes the crowd. Once you receive a FP, you are technically in line. The FP ticket is essentially a placeholder. What makes FP work is that you still have to go to the actual attraction to get one. The system would be completely unfair if you could get them at one place in advance. It also becomes unfair to people who aren't in the park before 10:30am. Without question the FPs for every attraction would be gone if you could stock up on them at once.
The way Disney has the system set up is pretty fair to ALL guests. Univeral and Six Flags have horrible systems...and not because they are paid options. While they do limit the number of passes available, it doesn't redistribute the crowd because there is no time frame attached to it. So if everyone headed to the same ride, it would put the standby queue at a standstill. With Disney's system, the FP returns are people who technically would have been in the line WITH the standby riders...they simply just had a placeholder so they could go elsewhere.
With FP, people just need to learn to use them effectively. As I mentioned above with Toy Story, I find it funny that in the mornings people will wait 20 minutes to get a FP for a return time of 1:00pm or 2:00pm when if they had just gotten in standby they could have been on the ride in another ten minutes or so. If it is short enough, don't get one. You waste more time sometimes by getting a FP than by just getting in line.
CBOMB
Active Member
There's just no sense of adventure at Walt Disney World.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
No foie gras either, but that is a whole other deleted thread :drevil:
LoriMistress
Well-Known Member
I don't know what you're smoking, kid. But I remember at DLR in the late 80's and early 90's, during August, waiting for 2 1/2 hours to ride just about any main attraction (SM, SpM, BTMRR, IJA, etc.) And that was back when there was no FP. I don't see what the issue with FP. But then again, I know how to use the FP system to my advantage.
Don't smoke, but thanks for the "kid" reference. It made me feel a few minutes younger :lol:.
It seems that FP has speeded up everyone's time in the parks. People break their necks getting to a favorite attraction. It's rush, rush, rush all the time.
Perhaps you can start a thread on FastPassology? I think people see the word "Fast" and think they can jump right on.
My first trip to WDW was in July, and the lines were long but not unbearably so. I never waited more than one hour for even the top attractions.
I also agree with some other posters that there are certain attractions that don't need Fast Pass.
Figment632
New Member
I for one have never had to rush to an attraction it's called time management. Also they will let you in hours after your FP is suppose to expire, I hate this and if you show up any longer than 2 hours past your time you should be turned away!
It doesn't make any sense to have rules that are bent just so people won't have a meltdown. Some folks have figured out if they throw a fit, Disney will cave and let them have their way.
SirGoofy
Member
It doesn't make any sense to have rules that are bent just so people won't have a meltdown. Some folks have figured out if they throw a fit, Disney will cave and let them have their way.
Nope, cast members are trained to allow late fastpasses. You can "legally" come back whenever you want after your fastpass time starts.
Figment632
New Member
Which is completly stupid :fork:
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Works for me.
Figment632
New Member
That is the only reason besides ride breakdown that FP backs up. You should get 2 hours past your time and then be turned away!
klineski96
Active Member
Thanks for this nugget of info, it could be very useful in the future!
And not that I don't believe you SirGoofy, because I do (I've just never heard of this practice before!)... but can other CM's on this board confirm this too? Confirm that this is practiced at all rides at all parks, not just up to the discretion of the current CM working the FastPass queue?
If this is in fact true, is it frowned upon? I'd hate to bend the rules or take advantage of CM's who are simply being kind and accommodating.
Thanks in advance!
epcotWSC
Well-Known Member
You shouldn't even get 2 hours. The time is the time. People say well what about if you have a meal and it runs late. Not my fault. I get my FP use it within the time and that's it. I never get one before meals, I wait until after I'm done. It's nonsense that people abuse the system like that. All it does is make the Fast Pass line longer which in turn makes the standby line longer.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Bit of a drama queen post.
Surely given the way fast passes are issued unless everyone is there bang to the minute then the vacant slot is used up by those who would have been stood behind them.
Still Ill keep abusing the system until Disney says otherwise, Ill try not to let the wrath of the puritans spoil my margaritas too much.
SirGoofy
Member
No, the only other reason Fastpass backs up is because the CM at merge isn't doing their job correctly.
Figment632
New Member
Good point
It's not abusing the system. The System was designed for that...which is why you have a return window instead of an exact return time. People who return outside the return window are far and few between to affect the FP and standby wait time.