DL Daily Trip Report

primetime52

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Just finished day one of my first Disneyland trip. I'll add pictures later, but for now I will just post some of my reactions and experiences from my first time in DL.

We spent the whole day in Disneyland Park (didn't get to DCA just yet) and the crowds were very light compared to what we are used to at WDW. We got on pretty much everything in the entire park and didn't use a single fastpass!

Time for some observations!

Main Street: I've heard people say that Main Street in DL seems alot smaller than in MK, but I didn't really notice any size difference. The streets seemed just as wide as in MK, but I'd say that the DL mainstreet buildings looked a little bit cleaner and more charming.

The Castle: Huuuuge disappointment compared to WDW's Castle. The word "dinky" comes to mind.

Indiana Jones: Amaaaazing ride. Definitely one of my new favorite Disney rides of all time. Blows "Dinosaur" in AK out of the water.

Jungle Cruise: The Piranhas were cool, but I like WDW's version more, mainly because of the cave scene. Our guide wasn't so good either, so hopefully we will have a better guide if we ride again tomorrow.

Pirates of the Caribbean: Obviously much better than MK's version, I was very pleased with DL's POTC.

Big Thunder Mountain Railroad: Not much different from WDW's except it seemed shorter and slightly less rough IMO. It also has less theming in the que area than MK's version.

Splash Mountain: I loved everything about DL's 'Splash' except for the single file logs. The AA's in DL's version look alot better along with the lighting and sound. I prefer the logs in WDW but everything else in the DL version.

Space Mountain: I must say I was a little bit disappointed due to the fact that so many people have told me that the DL version blows MK's away. The effects were much better and the track was much smoother, but the ride itself was very anticlimactic. There weren't any decent drops (even MK's version has better drops). It just sort of spun around in circles as I anticipated a drop, but it never happened. I still give DL's version the slight nod over MK's due to the superior effects and darkness, but it wasn't nearly as good as I expected.

Finding Nemo Sub Voyage: Great ride! Way better than I expected! The effects were great (in spite of a slightly cheesy beginning). I wish WDW had something like this instead of the crappy Epcot version.

Haunted Mansion: It's already been converted into HM holiday which is sort of cool but also a little bit cheesy. I definitely prefer the regular version of HM over the holiday edition.

Matterhorn Bobsleds: This ride certainly shows its age but I still enjoyed it immensely due to the fact that I knew I was riding a classic!

Overall Impressions: It was a little weird being in DL for the first time after so many countless visits to WDW. DL seemed like a miniature-bizarro version of MK. I DEFINITELY noticed the size difference. The entrances to Adventurelalnd and Frontierland are only about 15-20 yards away from one another in DL. All of the themed lands in DL (except maybe for fantasyland) seemed significantly smaller than those in WDW. Adventureland seemed especially small and somewhat cramped. It seemed sort of odd to me that the entrance to the enchanted Tiki room is actually just outside the entrance to Adventureland itself.

Fantasyland looks much better in DL, but I would otherwise say that I prefer the theming and 'feel' of the other lands in MK mainly due to its larger size. The only other exception to this was New Orleans Square, which I thought was extremely nice and quite large. I definitely prefer the overall feel of MK's versions of Tomorrowland, Adventureland, and Frontierland. The Rivers of America looked noticibly smaller in DL, and had very few trees around it, which makes it look alot more open and slightly less rugged than MK's version.

Another observation I have is the fact that the que's in MK are typically more detailed and better themed than DL's. Many of the duplicate rides in DL have que's that are mostly outdoors with few minute details added. The Matterhorn and POTC are good examples of this. One ride in DL that does have a great que is Indy. The Indy que reminds me of a mixture of the Everest que in AK and the Mummy que in Universal.

Pictures soon to come, along with more updates and observations!
 

Nicole220

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~Yay!! Another DL Splash fan!! :D
~I'm glad the crowd level is low!
~I'm sorry the size difference is quite noticeable...just try and ignore it. It's quite charming! :)
~Can't wait for the pics and the rest of the update! Good luck with the weekend crowds! :wave:
 

primetime52

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~Yay!! Another DL Splash fan!! :D
~I'm glad the crowd level is low!
~I'm sorry the size difference is quite noticeable...just try and ignore it. It's quite charming! :)
~Can't wait for the pics and the rest of the update! Good luck with the weekend crowds! :wave:

Well even though I did notice the size difference doesn't mean its so much of a bad thing. On the good side, its much quicker to walk from one side of the park to the other in DL, which can be quite a chore in MK when it's late in the day and your feet start to hurt.
 

Disneyfalcon

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Glad you're having fun!! I was a little suprised that DL's space had no drops, but I still thought it was amazing. I had the reverse experience from you, I've been riding DL's version so much that I was very suprised at WDW. I didn't remember how jerky it was, how light, etc. But I did like the drops.

Keep having fun!!
 

primetime52

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Interesting comparisons - thanks

I was in WDW a mere 2 weeks ago- so the layout and feel of MK is quite fresh in my mind, making any and all comparisons a relatively easy task at this point.

I'll add another feeling that I had at the beginning of the day in DL. Call me weird ( you wouldn't be the first) , but at the start of the day I was almost in a very mild state of shock to be in a place that looked sort of like MK- but very different at the same time. I am so accustomed to visiting MK and have my own routines and rituals when I am there. Thus, being in DL sort of threw me off mentally because I didn't know the park layout as well and didn't have all my designated hangouts and haunts that I have at MK.

When I first started walking around I felt just like Marty McFly when he first starts exploring 1955 Hill Valley (or maybe even the 2015 version). For the first half hour or so in DL I just sort of walked around confused because I didn't know what to do first! I'm sure many of you Californians felt like this the first time you ever saw MK after growing up on DL. I can see why people on either coast have their biases to one park or the other.
 

TP2000

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I'll add another feeling that I had at the beginning of the day in DL. Call me weird ( you wouldn't be the first) , but at the start of the day I was almost in a very mild state of shock to be in a place that looked sort of like MK- but very different at the same time. I am so accustomed to visiting MK and have my own routines and rituals when I am there. Thus, being in DL sort of threw me off mentally because I didn't know the park layout as well and didn't have all my designated hangouts and haunts that I have at MK.

If you've never visited a Disney theme park property aside from WDW, then that's a very typical feeling. West Coasters get it when they go to WDW for the first time, or the first time in a decade. I've felt that way at WDW before in the 80's, but now that I've visited WDW a few times since I don't get the creepy feeling anymore, although I do still look at the WDW Castle and think "Cripes! That thing's a monster! What's it got inside, a Super Wal-Mart or a Toyota dealership or something?!".

I did have that creepy surreal feeling again a couple years ago when I visited Tokyo Disneyland for the first time though. And I imagine the same plays out in Paris and such. What must be the most bizarre is to visit Hong Kong Disneyland. There you've got an exact replica of Disneyland from the main gate down to the Castle; nearly every brick and clapboard and doorway is the same as Disneyland. And the Hong Kong Castle is an exact copy of Disneyland. But once you get to the Hub in Hong Kong, it all becomes very different in the adjoining lands.

I hope you'll be able to get out and see some of the rest of SoCal while you are here, at the very least the rest of Orange County; Laguna Beach, Newport Beach, Crystal Cove State Park, Nixon Library, etc., etc. :wave:
 

primetime52

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Some Day 2 Stuff

Hey guys. Got a little bit behind on updating because day 2 and beyond got very busy.

Our Day 2 at DL was on Saturday, and it was another great day.

My girlfriend and I were given Dream Fastpasses as we entered "It's Tough to be a Bug" at DCA!! We were worried about how the weekend crowds were gonna look, but that didn't matter so much after being given those fastpasses. How lucky were we??

We started the day at DCA and I was actually pleasantly surprised. I don't know why so many of you SoCal'ers complain about it. It has more rides than MGM or AK and seemed to be themed pretty well IMO. Maybe that's easy for me to say since I'm not from Cali... so to me, being in a Cali themed park that's in Cali doesn't seem as odd as it might be to you Californians.

Observations at DCA:

California Screamin' is a great Coaster! I also thought the Paradise Pier area in general was kind of cool. It was like being in an old fashion shoreside amusement park- except much cleaner and more serene. I've heard so many complaints about that area of the park and I just don't get it. I think it's a well themed area.

Grizzley River Run was very cool. I love river rapid rides and that one was up there with Kali at AK. I haven't ridden Kali in a while so at this point in time I can't decide which I like better.

Tower of Terror: After countless rides on the MGM version- it was cool to ride one that is slightly different. I could tell that it's a little newer than MGM's as the lighting and effects seem a little more crisp. However, I still prefer MGM's version as it is longer and has the ever so popular "5th demension room." The one cool thing about the DCA version is that I didn't know when the drop was gonna happen, whereas it's pretty obvious on MGM's version.

Overall DCA impressions:

I should mention that even on a Saturday, DCA was virtually empty. I guess that's why Disney feels the need to spend 1.1 Billion to change it around. I liked the way the park was layed out and it seemed to be more spread out and spacious than Disneyland Park, but it might have only felt that way because it was so empty. We had lunch at that Italian Trattoria place (can't remember the exact name) and it was pretty good. We also greatly enjoyed the wine tasting.

At around 3pm or so- we crossed back over to Disneyland Park to finish out the day. Keep in mind we are armed with dream fastpasses. The crowds were definitely larger than the Friday crowds, but still not unbearable. The longest wait times we noticed were 45 minutes for Indy and Space Mountain. The Subs had a huge line but we didn't notice anything that said how long it was.

We used our dream fastpasses for Splash, Space, Indy, HM Holiday (which I decided I'm not a fan of at all), and Big Thunder. We decided to skip Autopia- and we tried to go on Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin but it kept breaking down every time we got in line. Is that ride any good?

I should also mention that on Friday (Day 1) we ate at the Blue Bayou for lunch. The atmosphere was great and the food was so so. None of us got the Monte Cristo though.... I guess we were all afraid of the inevitable artery clogging that would surely follow. The highlight of the meal was definitely the gumbo appetizer. I love me some gumbo!

Still working on the pictures because we apparently either lost or forgot a USB cable. 'Til then, I'm sure I'll find more to post in this cluttered brain of mine.
 

Shere_Khan

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I really enjoyed your report. I have never been to DL so it is interesting for me to read about it. Especially from the perspective of someone who went for the first time but has been to WDW several times. Thanks for writing it!
 

TP2000

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Great report! It's always fun to see someone visit Disneyland for the first time and pick up on all the blatant and subtle differences. :sohappy:

In no particular order, here's my comments back at ya';

Paradise Pier - How funny that you thought this was an okay area. It is almost universally derided by DCA critics as one of the ugliest and tackiest areas of the park. It's also the first to go under the knife, as you can tell from all the construction there. The modern look of stucco/vinyl facades are all being replaced with period-specific 1910's clapboard and gingerbread trim, for instance. At least you got to see it pre-surgery, although the new look is becoming evident beyond the construction walls.

Grizzly River Run - I think this is the best raft ride out there. I'm not a big fan of these types of rides as I rarely like to get soaking wet, but as far as they go it's a good one. Grizzly is notably longer than Kali, with about two extra minutes of ride time.

Tower of Terror - I like the DCA version too. Interesting that Tokyo DisneySea used the same ride system and setup as DCA, sacrificing the 5th Dimension room for the single shaft version. But if you are used to WDW's version, I could see how the lack of the 5th Dimension would seem like a downgrade even though all the other effects are better executed in the newer versions.

DCA Overall - You picked a great day for DCA; Saturday. The only people that visit DCA are tourists with park hoppers and AP's who aren't blocked out that day. There isn't a local living between Santa Barbara and San Diego who would actually buy a ticket to DCA for the day. Not a one. So on a Saturday when Disneyland is packed with locals taking their kids to Disneyland for the day, DCA is relatively empty. Saturday is the day to do DCA, with the longer hours and the parades and full entertainment schedule.

As for ride count, yes DCA has plenty of rides now. Not as many as Disneyland, but then there isn't a single Disney park on the planet that has as many rides as Disneyland USA. Which brings me to my next thought; Anaheim's two Disney parks combined have almost as many rides as WDW's four parks combined. Disneyland/DCA have as many rides as Magic Kingdom, MGM and Epcot combined. If WDW doesn't get on a major ride addition campaign soon, when DCA starts adding a half dozen rides in the next four years and Disneyland adds a few things to its Tomorrowland, then Anaheim would actually have more rides that all four WDW parks combined. That statistical event could happen as soon as 2012, unless WDW begins building several new rides soon.

It's the easy Disneyland vs. Magic Kingdom comparisons where the lack of rides at WDW is the most glaring. Disneyland has seven classic Fantasyland dark rides, compared to three such Fantasyland rides in Magic Kingdom. Disneyland has six E Ticket thrill rides compared to three E Ticket thrill rides at Magic Kingdom. Disneyland has five family E Ticket rides, compared to four family E Tickets at Magic Kingdom. Disneyland's Rivers of America has four separate attractions, versus the two attractions on Magic Kingdom's Rivers of America. Etc., etc., etc. The numbers stack up in Disneyland's favor nearly every time, and the overall total leaves Disneyland with about 15 extra attractions that Magic Kingdom lacks. It's the loss of the Country Bear Jamboree however that stings the most for Disneyland. :mad:

Now, some of the WDW experiences that aren't rides or shows are harder to quantify.... The walk into Animal Kingdom through the jungle. The strolls around World Showcase peeking at the artists stalls and gift shops. The exhibit cases at the animation display at MGM. Etc., etc. Disneyland/DCA has some of those same types of experiences that aren't strictly rides, like the bakery tour at DCA or the tortilla factory or the Snow White wishing well at Disneyland. But overall, WDW has more of the stroll n' shop type stuff that helps fill up a day inbetween rides. Still, I think it comes as a shock to many WDW natives when they see how many individual rides there are in Anaheim. Lots to do, lots to see, so keep moving folks!

Blue Bayou - The only item I order when at the Blue Bayou is the Monte Cristo. For lunch or dinner. Enough said. :lol:
 

mouselvrmom

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Wow, tp2000, with all the information you share on dl, you are really getting me excited for our upcoming trip!

And I'm glad to hear you're having a great trip, primetime!
 

Shere_Khan

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I have an old DL park map from long ago and not even sure where I got it. But there is a pinocchio ride on it. I remember when I was younger being really interested in it. Is that ride still there?? If so, how does it compare to some of the other dark rides?
 

Shere_Khan

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The Pinocchio ride is still there and I actually enjoyed it quite a bit. I know most people don't really seem to care for it though.

I bet I would enjoy it as well. Snow White and Peter Pan are two of my very favorite rides at WDW and I am guessing most people would call them the lamest of the rides. I just love rides that have to do with those old movies!
 

mouselvrmom

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I bet I would enjoy it as well. Snow White and Peter Pan are two of my very favorite rides at WDW and I am guessing most people would call them the lamest of the rides. I just love rides that have to do with those old movies!

I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it too. I love those old movie rides, as well. We didn't even see the Pinocchio ride the last time we were there. I don't know how we could have missed it, the only thing that I can think of is maybe it was down for a refurb and we just walked on by not knowing.
 

primetime52

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Great report! It's always fun to see someone visit Disneyland for the first time and pick up on all the blatant and subtle differences. :sohappy:

As for ride count, yes DCA has plenty of rides now. Not as many as Disneyland, but then there isn't a single Disney park on the planet that has as many rides as Disneyland USA. Which brings me to my next thought; Anaheim's two Disney parks combined have almost as many rides as WDW's four parks combined. Disneyland/DCA have as many rides as Magic Kingdom, MGM and Epcot combined. If WDW doesn't get on a major ride addition campaign soon, when DCA starts adding a half dozen rides in the next four years and Disneyland adds a few things to its Tomorrowland, then Anaheim would actually have more rides that all four WDW parks combined. That statistical event could happen as soon as 2012, unless WDW begins building several new rides soon.

It's the easy Disneyland vs. Magic Kingdom comparisons where the lack of rides at WDW is the most glaring. Disneyland has seven classic Fantasyland dark rides, compared to three such Fantasyland rides in Magic Kingdom. Disneyland has six E Ticket thrill rides compared to three E Ticket thrill rides at Magic Kingdom. Disneyland has five family E Ticket rides, compared to four family E Tickets at Magic Kingdom. Disneyland's Rivers of America has four separate attractions, versus the two attractions on Magic Kingdom's Rivers of America. Etc., etc., etc. The numbers stack up in Disneyland's favor nearly every time, and the overall total leaves Disneyland with about 15 extra attractions that Magic Kingdom lacks. It's the loss of the Country Bear Jamboree however that stings the most for Disneyland. :mad:

Now, some of the WDW experiences that aren't rides or shows are harder to quantify.... The walk into Animal Kingdom through the jungle. The strolls around World Showcase peeking at the artists stalls and gift shops. The exhibit cases at the animation display at MGM. Etc., etc. Disneyland/DCA has some of those same types of experiences that aren't strictly rides, like the bakery tour at DCA or the tortilla factory or the Snow White wishing well at Disneyland. But overall, WDW has more of the stroll n' shop type stuff that helps fill up a day inbetween rides. Still, I think it comes as a shock to many WDW natives when they see how many individual rides there are in Anaheim. Lots to do, lots to see, so keep moving folks!

Blue Bayou - The only item I order when at the Blue Bayou is the Monte Cristo. For lunch or dinner. Enough said. :lol:

Wow, that whole attraction count between Anaheim and WDW is surprising.

You're right, DL does have a boatload of attractions, more than any other Disney park. While this is true, I wouldn't really say that I wish WDW's Magic Kingdom was like this. Afterall, a few of the DL attractions are duplicates of attractions found in other WDW parks (HISTA, Star Tours, and Innoventions come to mind.)

Magic Kingdom has a great amount of charm, and I would say that it's just a couple of E-tickets away from being a near perfect park IMO. I wish MK still had a submarine ride ( I know it would never get the Nemo version since we already have the abbreviated one in Epcot) and I wish it had some answer to the Matterhorn (can't get a Matterhorn since it's too much like Everest). I also am a huge fan of Indy at DL, but I'd say that attraction would be a better fit in MGM, given the way the Florida parks are themed.

DL is a great park, and it offers probably 5 times as many attractions per square foot as MK, but I think they do this because of the fact that they dont have nearly as much space or as many parks as WDW.

Walking around DL I almost got the feeling that the excessive amount of attractions compromises the theming a little bit. You can see the backs of New Orleans buildings in Adventureland, and it was kind of odd to have the Haunted Mansion seperated from Splash mountain by only about 20 yards. There's also the fact that the Matterhorn is stuck so close to walkways and other attractions that the line for it (most of which is all outside) was sometimes blocking traffic from people who were just walking around.

At MK I generally feel more immersed in the theme of each individual land- and generally can't see or hear anything from the neighboring land. In that sense I think MK fulfills Walt's goals for theming a little bit better than DL does.

However, there's no denying that DL is a great park, probably the best individual Disney park that I've been to, due to its plethora of great attractions.
 

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