Night as well. Their workforce mostly too.
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Ditching Disney
- Thread starter EPCOTCenterLover
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Night as well. Their workforce mostly too.
over 20.
I think it's hilarious when people wish "old" Disney would return. I've learned that it will never come back, so accept what you've got or move on.
BuddyThomas
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BuddyThomas
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Massively replaced its audience with _______??? Don’t keep us hanging: Let us know what WDW has replaced their audience with. Thank you.
Raidermatt
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About as much as they will prosper from your arrival.
eliza61nyc
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and also "who's " old. My kids fell in love with the 2000 version of Disney. Most of the things people here long for mean absolutely nothing to us. So "old" Disney is a fuzzy concept. Imo it's like when your grandparents start a sentence with "back in my day". Now naturally there are things I really miss (illuminations) but there are also things I'm so glad they got rid of (great movie ride).
the_rich
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You're gonna get hate for that lol. But I agree that I'm happy they replaced it.
Goofyernmost
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Keeping in mind that I was in my late 60's when I made the trip to Europe, and I must have walked 4000 miles of it, or so it seemed. I had been to Europe once before when in college but as I recall that was from one plane to another plane and between planes one bus to another bus to one castle to another castle and in the evening it was attempting to drain Europe of all alcoholic beverages.
This time we did only two paid tours one in Rome because I felt that it would cover a lot more then we would be able to see if we were trying to find these places alone and another as an excursion at a port of call in Livorno, Italy which went to Pisa and Florence ending at a family owned winery in the Tuscany area for a wine sampling and late lunch.
The entire experience, for me at least, was a once in a lifetime trip. Luck was with us and we had very good weather for all but one day, we rented apartments, which was new for me, and made me a little anxious about what we might find when we got there, but even though they weren't the most posh of accommodations they were clean and comfortable. The exploring, the trains and subway usage plus the sights, the local restaurants, shopping in the local food store for the meals we had while in the apartments. The somewhat different menu's even at a McDonalds was an incredible experience. In Venice even went to a Sting Quartet concert in a 400 year old church.
Don't get me wrong, we occasionally went to an American chain like Mickey D's and Hard Rock Café in Venice, which, btw, was next door to a Disney Store. I never expected to find a Disney Store in Venice. The cruise was great fun except for the Casino which apparently had a vacuum specially designed to suck the money right out of my pocket. I showed my anger by only going to the Casino twice. It took me that long to decide that it couldn't be made up the next night.
To show how much exercise I got, the last 10 days off the trip was wall to wall food and the last five days were sea days. When I got home I weighed 20 pounds less than when I started. So all the weight loss had to be contributed to the rest of the trip. Rather expensive weight loss trip, but that was just a pleasant side effect.
I guess as usual, I could have just said, my 2015 Trip to Europe, but, everyone knows, I tend to get wordy.
graphite1326
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Problem is a lot of people are saying the same thing.
graphite1326
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You are right it is too compicated. I used to love going because I started our trip by dropping our luggage at the airport and boarded the plane. That is when the magic started. I was taken care of from then on. Now you take care of your luggage, find your own ride, and are bogged down trying to get decent ride wait times and having to be on your phone constantly. That is why I went to relax and have everything taken care of.
I totally agree. Getting stuck in any kind of rut (including to a particular travel destination) isn't healthy.
We've been regular WDW visitors (about once every 18-24 months) since our kids were 4 and 6, although we have always visited other places, too (the Caribbean, Sweden, Scotland, Los Angeles, Boston, NYC, the Adirondacks, etc.). We're going back to WDW in August (with the kids now aged 15 and 17, yikes!) to use up the last of our Disney gift cards, and then are looking to take a hiatus of several years, as our disposable income will be earmarked for college tuitions or educational trips rather than expensive travel. (...and if perchance we do venture to Orlando, it will be to see Epic Universe!) Disney has made the planning experience so complicated and frustrating that as much as I still love Disney World and the memories we've made there, I don't think I'm going to miss it for a long time -- words that, 10 years ago, I never thought I'd say!
John park hopper
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But! but! But! you are the magic------so says Disney
The Empress Lilly
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https:///2023/06/disney-world-is-losing-its-primary-audience-reports-say-zg1/
Disney’s Parks Are Losing Their Magic With Customers
Despite pushing promotions to bring more guests to their parks, Disney’s high prices are cutting into attendance numbers...
www.movieguide.org
Disney Parks are losing / pricing out / politically alienating much of their core visitors. Disney+ is losing viewers and subscribers. Disney box office returns have been abysmal. Shareholders are dropping Disney stock. Employees have left in droves. The CEO has been replaced as a consequence.
The effect is even noticeable on this forum. Many regular old-time posters have left or barely post anymore - this thread is a case in point.
BuddyThomas
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Well, the world only spins forward.
Disney’s Parks Are Losing Their Magic With Customers
Despite pushing promotions to bring more guests to their parks, Disney’s high prices are cutting into attendance numbers...
Disney Parks are losing / pricing out / politically alienating much of their core visitors. Disney+ is losing viewers and subscribers. Disney box office returns have been abysmal. Shareholders are dropping Disney stock. Employees have left in droves. The CEO has been replaced as a consequence.
The effect is even noticeable on this forum. Many regular old-time posters have left or barely post anymore - this thread is a case in point.
I have felt this for years now, you can read it in here. Disney and the people that propagate it are following the same trajectory as San Francisco, I remember in here a thread over 10 years ago in which people were complaining about strollers and them being in the way everywhere, and my thought at the time was "this isnt good".
I grew up at a time when Disney was for kids and families, it has morphed (or edged out by) over time by adults that don't get married and want to remain as children (hence complaints about strollers). Personally, if I scheduled a trip to WDW, I would expect to be in a sea of strollers and kids running and banging into me constantly, so therefore it would not bother me.
Tie in to San Francisco, there society is doing the same, that has become a city of few kids and adults that only care about themselves and self indulgences and families stay away. Back to WDW, this is why I see threads in her where people are complaining about the drinking in EPCOT etc.
Ok open fire...
Alanzo
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drunk uncle
GladToBeHear
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You didn't quite get the point. Permit me to spell it for you (not literally).
15-20 years ago, we were complaining about a return to the Disney of the late 1980s/early 1990s.
Today we are complaining about a return to the Disney of the early 2000s and the rebound of investment after the 08 collapse.
I get it. I see the declining standards. But I've seen them for so long, that now people are pining for a return to the way things were when we were also complaining about a return to the way things were.
The truth is that even in light of their declining standards, Disney still has the highest standards and quality in the industry, but we won't realize that for another decade or two.