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Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

BlakeW39

BlakeW39

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While the film's international performance is admittedly strange, overall I'm not really surprised by how this film has performed. Franchise fatigue is setting in for most of Disney's brands, and that includes the live action remakes. It also had sociopolitical baggage with the race swap. So I never assumed it would do as well as TLK or Aladdin. I think the movie has a good chance at not losing money, but it won't end up being a success either way and that's pretty telling for how the rest of these remakes will play out. If TLM couldn't do well, which was one of the remakes that should have done the best, how will the rest of them do in an even MORE saturated market?
 
TalkingHead

TalkingHead

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Trauma said:
Turns out having terrible grammar doesn’t stop you from making $$$. So lucky me!
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“It’s no trick to make a lot money, if what you want to do is make a lot of money.”

Sounds like the box office is reminding Disney of that this weekend.

Translation: Spidey doing $30m more than predictions should be a reminder to Disney that people will show up for inventive movies. Inventive.

For decades the company prided itself on showing audiences things they’d never seen before. Live action remake #14 or whatever isn’t doing that as much as they’d like to say otherwise.
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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TalkingHead said:
“It’s no trick to make a lot money, if what you want to do is make a lot of money.”

Sounds like the box office is reminding Disney of that this weekend.

Translation: Spidey doing $30m more than predictions should be a reminder to Disney that people will show up for Spiderman movies. Spiderman.

For decades the company prided itself on showing audiences things they’d never seen before. Live action remake #14 or whatever isn’t doing that as much as they’d like to say otherwise.
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I fixed your spelling errors. 😜
 
TalkingHead

TalkingHead

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Jedijax719 said:
I fixed your spelling errors. 😜
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IP is a factor. But word of mouth on this is through the roof because it’s a creative use of IP (just like the previous installment). Imagine if Disney had had the foresight to have made a visually adventurous SW animated feature. The point is Disney’s inventiveness is at an all-time low and general audiences have gotten wise to it.
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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TalkingHead said:
IP is a factor. But word of mouth on this is through the roof because it’s a creative use of IP (just like the previous installment). Imagine if Disney had had the foresight to have made a visually adventurous SW animated feature. The point is Disney’s inventiveness is at an all-time low and general audiences have gotten wise to it.
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What's interesting is that Disney has used that form of media on Disney Channel with Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. Albeit, it's lower quality because it's a TV show, but it's actually quite fun. I wonder if the Spideyverse method of animation is the new "thing". I think they are using the same kind of method with Wish.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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TalkingHead said:
IP is a factor. But word of mouth on this is through the roof because it’s a creative use of IP (just like the previous installment). Imagine if Disney had had the foresight to have made a visually adventurous SW animated feature. The point is Disney’s inventiveness is at an all-time low and general audiences have gotten wise to it.
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That is the progression of “Igerism”…
It’s not working in parks…and it’s not working in theatrical…or streaming…probably not consumer products either…

I think cruiseline is ok? Having a really small fleet keeps em packing in 👍🏻
Prince-1 said:
Most of what Muppet Man says is a parody.
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Oh bless you…
Are you here to defend the honor of “the company”

All shall kneel before ZOD!!!
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Wait a minute…now granted last weekend I was distracted by being at wdw - granted I was almost the only one cause it was DEAD…

But I swear the estimate for NA gross for mermaid was $114.6???

Just looked at mojo and the actual was $95.6????

That’s not a “minor” overshoot
 
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MandaM

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Wait a minute…now granted last weekend I was distracted by being at wdw - granted I was almost the only one cause it was DEAD…

But I swear the estimate for NA gross for mermaid was $114.6???

Just looked at mojo and the actual was $95.6????

That’s not a “minor” overshoot
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It made $118 mil domestically over Memorial Weekend. The $95 mil number was just Fri-Sunday's box office.
 
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doctornick

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BlakeW39 said:
Miles was always a black character. Ariel is a white character that was race swapped. There's naturally gonna be some backlash when a character's iconography is changed. You can't label that as inherently racist. Sure some people who didn't like the race swap were racist. But I'd say the majority are not. I mean I think most fans of most franchises react negatively to race/gender swaps. Me included and I am black.
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And I think that’s particularly true with these animated to live action films where a big selling point is the “nostalgia” and attachment to the original film. The more you drift from the beloved work, the harder it can be on selling people to go and see the new thing. There’s some element of “they changed too much” that’s necessarily racial per se.
 
Indy_UK

Indy_UK

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TalkingHead said:
“It’s no trick to make a lot money, if what you want to do is make a lot of money.”

Sounds like the box office is reminding Disney of that this weekend.

Translation: Spidey doing $30m more than predictions should be a reminder to Disney that people will show up for inventive movies. Inventive.

For decades the company prided itself on showing audiences things they’d never seen before. Live action remake #14 or whatever isn’t doing that as much as they’d like to say otherwise.
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That is the issue with Disney now and I would agree that they are creatively stale these days.

Iger has already said it will be Toy Story 5, Frozen 3 and another zootopia on the way.

All of their franchises are getting stale and they really do need to bring in some new creatives because anything that Disney makes outside of the cookie cutter tends to be just BAD
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
doctornick said:
And I think that’s particularly true with these animated to live action films where a big selling point is the “nostalgia” and attachment to the original film. The more you drift from the beloved work, the harder it can be on selling people to go and see the new thing. There’s some element of “they changed too much” that’s necessarily racial per se.
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Let’s face it….Disney keeps doing far too many remake/spin movies.

So while yes…there is some racial tinge to it - mostly because an unregulated internet still allows near universal “troll anonymity” - it’s also criticized because of a mounting list of them messing with ALL their characters. It’s almost across the board.

They did it again in their only other chance for a “tentpole” this summer a few weeks away.

Take one of the worlds greatest action heroes and made him a cowering buffoon of an old man - it seems?

The “catalogue” is leading to fan disgruntlement across the board.
 
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