Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

[Tha Realest]

Ok so who’s fault is that?

Are they being held accountable?

Chapek and Daniel.

If you want to look at waste, look at what they did to the non-Avatar 20th Century Fox films that were already in the can.

 

[Trauma]

Chapek and Daniel.

If you want to look at waste, look at what they did to the non-Avatar 20th Century Fox films that were already in the can.

Who recommended Chapek again?

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Intelligence and common sense are not the same.

They're also not mutually exclusive.

A pet rock can look at these numbers at project out what they mean.

I really don't want to be too ad hominem, but you've said elsewhere that you would be happy to see Disney burn to the ground in order to get Iger out. We get it, but this is getting very tiring as everyone knows you're not arguing in good faith.

 

[Jedijax719]

The Sunday to Monday hold for TLM was actually a little better than Aladdin's Sunday to Monday hold and was pretty much dead even with Top Gun Maverick's Sunday to Monday hold. Whether it is front-loaded or back-loaded may not yet be determined because, despite the weaker-than-expected Saturday, it held pretty well after that. The mid-week and second weekend will tell a lot. I actually think that the mid-week (Tuesday-Thursday) will say more because with Spideyverse come out, the 2nd weekend drop will be bigger than Aladdin or TGmav's. It will likely stabilize after that second weekend because, let's face it, nobody cares about Transformers any more. Then things may get wonky due to Flash and Elementals. It will be a yo-yo due to the crowded release schedule and movies vying for premium screens.

 

[Trauma]

We’re supposed to be a fan community, engaging in discussion on topics we care about. Why the snarky cynicism?

It’s just reality.

Disney is a topic we care about.

Everything is money.

You can’t make the movie without it.

We are just looking at it through a different lens.

Maybe you see it as a touching movie that really made a difference In a lot of peoples lives.

I see it as a film that has a very real chance of losing a lot of money.

You can’t have both forever. Once you run out of money you are done making a difference.

If this was a one off I would agree with you but Disneys batting average is on the decline and it doesn’t look to improve anytime soon.

 

[Figgy1]

I'm curious as to how well the merch sales are going as the 2 items I wanted to buy today were sold out in my size

 

[LittleBuford]

It’s just reality.

Disney is a topic we care about.

Everything is money.

You can’t make the movie without it.

We are just looking at it through a different lens.

Maybe you see it as a touching movie that really made a difference In a lot of peoples lives.

I see it as a film that has a very real chance of losing a lot of money.

You can’t have both forever. Once you run out of money you are done making a difference.

If this was a one off I would agree with you but Disneys batting average is on the decline and it doesn’t look to improve anytime soon.

Disney is still the highest-earning studio out there.

Many Disney films, including some of the most beloved animated classics, failed to make a profit upon their initial release. It’s not the end of the world when it happens.

The idea that money is the only way to measure the success of a Disney project is absurdly blinkered, especially in what is supposed to be a fan community.

 

[Trauma]

Disney is still the highest-earning studio out there.

Many Disney films, including some of the most beloved animated classics, failed to make a profit upon their initial release. It’s not the end of the world when it happens.

The idea that money is the only way to measure the merits of a Disney project is absurd, all the more so in what is supposed to be a fan community.

There is no fan community without $$$. It’s the most important topic.


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[LittleBuford]

I'm curious as to how well the merch sales are going as the 2 items I wanted to buy today were sold out in my size

Keep checking back—hopefully they’ll restock them soon!

 

[Disstevefan1]

Which is a ridiculous waste of money. There is no valid reason for Disney to release three $200+ films within the span of a month, one movie in late June and nothing in August or September.

This is a good point. Regardless of the movie, they should space them out. Going to the movies for a family is very expensive and can't afford to go to them all so close to each other.

Families are forced to make a choice. Disney is literally competing with themselves for the same movie goer.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I think there is another Disney forum that doesn’t allow any negativity at all if your looking for a constant injection of pixie dust.

I think my posting record speaks for itself on that front.

This is getting to the point of trying to manifest a certain reality due to a personal obsession, and that gets tiring. It's been out one weekend. It's not a flop, but it may or may not eventually turn a profit when all the different revenue streams are taken into account.

The whole "let Disney burn" act is just irritating.

 

[Trauma]

I think my posting record speaks for itself on that front.

This is getting to the point of trying to manifest a certain reality due to a personal obsession, and that gets tiring. It's been out one weekend. It's not a flop, but it may or may not eventually turn a profit when all the different revenue streams are taken into account.

The whole "let Disney burn" act is just irritating.

It only needs to burn until Iger is gone.

I’m not the only one here who shares that view.

 

[BuddyThomas]

This is a good point. Regardless of the movie, they should space them out. Going to the movies for a family is very expensive and can't afford to go to them all so close to each other.

Families are forced to make a choice. Disney is literally competing with themselves for the same movie goer.

On the other hand, you are posting this on a board where people go to Disney World so often and for so many days at a time - I would venture to guess that those particular families can afford to go see whatever movies they want, whenever they want.

 

[Jedijax719]

I'm not sure why anyone is so uptight about profit. It's not like they are using your tax money to fund the movies. If they don't make a profit, they don't make a profit. $300 million is still $300 million whether there is a profit or not. Unless you are personally on the board, who cares whether they take a loss. That's their problem. And the loss they take (or don't take) with this particular movie is based on overseas numbers that, in all honesty, came as a blindside.

 

[Figgy1]

Keep checking back—hopefully they’ll restock them soon!

That's the plan! If I can get the licensed fabric sooner, I'll just make my own dress, either way Disney is getting my money

 

[MisterPenguin]

I’m very dumb Penguin, I can admit that and be ok with it.

Are you correcting my grammar or saying this lady is a nut job.

I’m ok with it either way, just looking for clarity.

She's nutty. Famously so.

Her inside leaks often wind up to be false, hilariously so. With James Gunn taking over DC, he's been directly fact checking all her DC rumors from her 'sources' as categorically false.

And her hot takes about what's going down and what's going to happen also wind up being hilariously wrong.

But for some reason, her confident declarations and click bait bring in the clicks.

 

[CaptainMickey]

We’re supposed to be a fan community, engaging in discussion on topics we care about. Why the snarky cynicism?

Definitely didn't want to upset anyone, so sorry about that. My sarcastic humor may not translate well on forums. Sorry if it came across as mean. I think if we were all at Magic Kingdom in person it would hit much different and we would all get along great as Disney Fans.

I have loved Disney for decades. I have had a WDW annual pass over 20 years and been on 20 DCL cruises so don't think of myself as a Hater.
Now I am very frustrated with the current management and the direction of the company. I feel they are greatly weakening the future of the company, destroying their most popular brands, not doing great things with the parks (Especially DVC and hotel theming) and continuing to make boneheaded decisions again and again that will have long-term effects on the company. Disney's creativity definitely ebbs and flows and it seems to be very down right now. My snarkyness is aim at venting at current Disney management and their sub par output. Posters defending them may catch some collateral damage.

 

[Disstevefan1]

On the other hand, you are posting this on a board where people go to Disney World so often and for so many days at a time - I would venture to guess that those particular families can afford to go see whatever movies they want, whenever they want.

OK, but what about the rest of the moviegoing population?

It seems like to me the releases are too close to each other, that's all.

 

[BuddyThomas]

OK, but what about the rest of the moviegoing population?

It seems like to me the releases are too close to each other, that's all.

I mean, I’m not flowing in a river of money and I still like it when there is a new high profile movie release every weekend. It’s been a minute since anything interested us until Mermaid. Next weekend we have The Boogeyman, which is supposed to be pretty good, and then we get into a summer release schedule where things come out one after another and I for one couldn’t be happier about it.

 

[Tha Realest]

Disney is a for-profit company. If you want to see more of “X”, you should hope that “X” is profitable.

I loved Tron: Legacy. Loved it. Sadly not enough people went to see it and, well, we’ve never gotten a true sequel.

I loved John Carter. Sadly, not enough people went to see it and we’ll never see a proper sequel.

The new theatrical -> DTC stuff has really disrupted things. Whereas companies could get new revenue from TV viewings , rentals, or home video, that’s been cannibalized.