Disney's Hollywood Studios: What's Next

cb3k

Member
Just got back from my first trip in 3 years.....It was quite sad to see that DHS as essentially remained stagnant. If you exclude the 100 minute wait time for TMM and 60+ min wait time for RnR....this park is a 1/3 day park at most. It has definitely sunk to 4th on my list.
 

Clamman73

Well-Known Member
Just got back from my first trip in 3 years.....It was quite sad to see that DHS as essentially remained stagnant. If you exclude the 100 minute wait time for TMM and 60+ min wait time for RnR....this park is a 1/3 day park at most. It has definitely sunk to 4th on my list.

I would like to try an 8:00 rope drop at Studios on a slow day and run to a few attractions that I'd like to ride and still make it to 9:00 opening at Epcot. I'll just keep the car running in the parking lot.
 

cb3k

Member
I would like to try a 8:00 rope drop at Studios on a slow day and run to a few attractions that I'd like to ride and still make it to 9:00 opening at Epcot. I'll just keep the car running in the parking lot.
My family and I were essentially able to do just that....started at 9 am, had nothing to do by 11:30. Let me know how the 8 am rope drop experiment works out for you...I'm legitimately curious.
 

Patricia Melton

Well-Known Member
I think the biggest thing about DHS is that they need to embrace a rebranding of their mission statement and guiding principles.

Now, this is one of those things that might sound simple on the surface, but it's a really big deal. My son's an architect and this is what he sits down with his clients and goes over before they ever start working on a project: what is it that they want to really accomplish with the project and what parameters and rules do they decide to follow every day to get to that goal.

DHS started out as MGM Studios and seemed at its heart to be a half-thought out attempt to beat Universal Orlando to a punch. The whole "working studio" aspect of the park is now gone and will not come back. But the park's mission and guiding principles have not been adjusted to reflect this reality. It's just kind of hobbled along without a real purpose.

As an armchair consultant, I'd advise Disney to make the mission of DHS to "bring Disney movies to life and to make people feel like they are inside the movies".

The guiding principles of the park should be:

* instead of "lands" like at MK, DHS will have areas that bring particular movies to life in a fully immersive way
* instead of Main Street like at MK, DHS will have a gorgeous Hollywood street that inspires your imagination and sets the stage for you to walk into the movie themed areas like you are walking off Hollywood Boulevard and into a movie inside an ornate theater
* DHS is the only place in the world where you can feel like you are inside a Star Wars movie or inside your favorite Pixar movie
* DHS will include artifacts from the actual movies and shows that either educate you about how those movies were made or otherwise enhance the feeling that what you saw on the screen has been brought to life in Orlando

I think the selling point of this park would be that families who love watching a DVD at home can say to their kids, "Hey kids. You know that video you love so much? Well, what if I told you we could GO THERE? You can eat the food that's in the movie. You can visit the house in the movie. You can meet the creatures that were in the movie. You can be the star of that movie for the day. Would you want to go there with me?".

Then, when you come home and watch the DVD again, the kids can remember the trip and love the movie that much more because they are now apart of it.

THAT, to me, is what DHS should offer guests.
 

Bairstow

Well-Known Member
Isn't there at least one Pixar ride at every Disney park now besides Tokyo Disneysea?

Personally I have no problem with MGM not having a cohesive theme beyond "movies".
That's made it a convenient dumping ground for interesting attraction concepts that don't really fit anywhere else. (Rock n' Rollercoaster, Fantasmic, Tower of Terror, etc.)
As long as they keep adding quality self-contained attraction modules, like Universal does, it will be fine.
They're really behind schedule though.
 

J03Y

Well-Known Member
I think the biggest thing about DHS is that they need to embrace a rebranding of their mission statement and guiding principles.

Now, this is one of those things that might sound simple on the surface, but it's a really big deal. My son's an architect and this is what he sits down with his clients and goes over before they ever start working on a project: what is it that they want to really accomplish with the project and what parameters and rules do they decide to follow every day to get to that goal.

DHS started out as MGM Studios and seemed at its heart to be a half-thought out attempt to beat Universal Orlando to a punch. The whole "working studio" aspect of the park is now gone and will not come back. But the park's mission and guiding principles have not been adjusted to reflect this reality. It's just kind of hobbled along without a real purpose.

As an armchair consultant, I'd advise Disney to make the mission of DHS to "bring Disney movies to life and to make people feel like they are inside the movies".

The guiding principles of the park should be:

* instead of "lands" like at MK, DHS will have areas that bring particular movies to life in a fully immersive way
* instead of Main Street like at MK, DHS will have a gorgeous Hollywood street that inspires your imagination and sets the stage for you to walk into the movie themed areas like you are walking off Hollywood Boulevard and into a movie inside an ornate theater
* DHS is the only place in the world where you can feel like you are inside a Star Wars movie or inside your favorite Pixar movie
* DHS will include artifacts from the actual movies and shows that either educate you about how those movies were made or otherwise enhance the feeling that what you saw on the screen has been brought to life in Orlando

I think the selling point of this park would be that families who love watching a DVD at home can say to their kids, "Hey kids. You know that video you love so much? Well, what if I told you we could GO THERE? You can eat the food that's in the movie. You can visit the house in the movie. You can meet the creatures that were in the movie. You can be the star of that movie for the day. Would you want to go there with me?".

Then, when you come home and watch the DVD again, the kids can remember the trip and love the movie that much more because they are now apart of it.

THAT, to me, is what DHS should offer guests.

i like this idea too! omg i like too many ideas ;___;

this would take a lot of time to accomplish tho, changing all of MGM to look more like an in-depth experience. it's retheming the entire park to look more like movies instead Hollywood.
 

J03Y

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Oh and how about a proper toon town to go in animation courtyard while we are at it.

Disney's not going to get rid of MoDA. i know some would say i dont know for sure, but something just tells me Disney wants to avoid getting rid of it
 

Turtle

Well-Known Member
Isn't there at least one Pixar ride at every Disney park now besides Tokyo Disneysea?

Personally I have no problem with MGM not having a cohesive theme beyond "movies".
That's made it a convenient dumping ground for interesting attraction concepts that don't really fit anywhere else. (Rock n' Rollercoaster, Fantasmic, Tower of Terror, etc.)

Tower of Terror and Rock n' Rollercoaster all fit the theme of Hollywood Studios so I don't understand the dumping ground situation (besides Fantasmic cause that should be in MK) . Twilight Zone was a famous TV show (that means hollywood) and Rock n' Rollercoaster has a famous band (Hollywood), inside a recording studio (Hollywood), and you speed through Los Angeles (Hollywood).

If anything Soarin' should've been in DHS since they only fly over California
 

Bairstow

Well-Known Member
What's all that space used for these days anyway?
Last time I went to the Animation tour it all took place in 2 theater-like rooms.
Is the rest of the old studio just storage space now?
 

cheezbat

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Isn't there at least one Pixar ride at every Disney park now besides Tokyo Disneysea?
.

Actually, Tokyo Disneysea just opened up their version of Toy Story Midway mania...

DL: Nemo Subs, Buzz
DCA: Carsland, Monsters Inc, A Bugs Land, TSMM
MK: Buzz, Laugh Floor
Epcot: The Seas with Nemo
DHS: TSMM
DAK: Bugs Life 3-D, Nemo musical
DLP: Buzz
WDSP: Toy Story land, Crush's Coaster, Cars rally
HKDL: Toy Story land, Buzz
TDL: Buzz, Monsters Inc
TDS: TSMM

That's a lot of Pixar!
 

rioriz

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Actually, Tokyo Disneysea just opened up their version of Toy Story Midway mania...

DL: Nemo Subs, Buzz
DCA: Carsland, Monsters Inc, A Bugs Land, TSMM
MK: Buzz, Laugh Floor
Epcot: The Seas with Nemo
DHS: TSMM
DAK: Bugs Life 3-D, Nemo musical
DLP: Buzz
WDSP: Toy Story land, Crush's Coaster, Cars rally
HKDL: Toy Story land, Buzz
TDL: Buzz, Monsters Inc
TDS: TSMM

That's a lot of Pixar!


Actually I see it the other way that you just pointed out there is not that much Pixarfication as others may lead you to believe. Out of 4 parks in WDW there are only 7 (Crush separate) attractions that have Pixar! DCA has the most but it is also the newest of the domestic parks. DL may be losing one in the near future. Honestly considering how long Disney and Pixar have been married this list is not overwhelming especially seeing that there are no other confirmed Pixar properties coming to the parks anytime soon.
 

Patricia Melton

Well-Known Member
Actually I see it the other way that you just pointed out there is not that much Pixarfication as others may lead you to believe. Out of 4 parks in WDW there are only 7 (Crush separate) attractions that have Pixar! DCA has the most but it is also the newest of the domestic parks. DL may be losing one in the near future. Honestly considering how long Disney and Pixar have been married this list is not overwhelming especially seeing that there are no other confirmed Pixar properties coming to the parks anytime soon.

I really don't see movies as Pixar or Disney. However, I do see movies as computer or hand drawn.

Since there seems to be no more hand drawn movies coming I guess the computer ones are all we have to look forward to.
 

Bairstow

Well-Known Member
Actually I see it the other way that you just pointed out there is not that much Pixarfication as others may lead you to believe. Out of 4 parks in WDW there are only 7 (Crush separate) attractions that have Pixar! DCA has the most but it is also the newest of the domestic parks. DL may be losing one in the near future. Honestly considering how long Disney and Pixar have been married this list is not overwhelming especially seeing that there are no other confirmed Pixar properties coming to the parks anytime soon.

It seems like a lot to me.
It would be interesting to know how many attractions that aren't Pixar-affiliated were launched during that same time period.


I really don't see movies as Pixar or Disney. However, I do see movies as computer or hand drawn.

Since there seems to be no more hand drawn movies coming I guess the computer ones are all we have to look forward to.

And yet, other than Countdown to Extinction, have there been any attractions based on non-Pixar computer animated films?
 

Jedeye80

Active Member
Actually, Tokyo Disneysea just opened up their version of Toy Story Midway mania...

DL: Nemo Subs, Buzz
DCA: Carsland, Monsters Inc, A Bugs Land, TSMM
MK: Buzz, Laugh Floor
Epcot: The Seas with Nemo
DHS: TSMM
DAK: Bugs Life 3-D, Nemo musical
DLP: Buzz
WDSP: Toy Story land, Crush's Coaster, Cars rally
HKDL: Toy Story land, Buzz
TDL: Buzz, Monsters Inc
TDS: TSMM

That's a lot of Pixar!
Not enough Pixar for me, where's the attractions based on wall:e, up and the incredibles, 3 of the better Pixar movies in my opinion.
 

rioriz

Well-Known Member
It seems like a lot to me.
It would be interesting to know how many attractions that aren't Pixar-affiliated were launched during that same time period.




And yet, other than Countdown to Extinction, have there been any attractions based on non-Pixar computer animated films?

I figure Rapunzel will have her day soon, but none of the othr Disney comp films did well enough to warrant an attraction
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Isn't there at least one Pixar ride at every Disney park now besides Tokyo Disneysea?

Personally I have no problem with MGM not having a cohesive theme beyond "movies".
That's made it a convenient dumping ground for interesting attraction concepts that don't really fit anywhere else. (Rock n' Rollercoaster, Fantasmic, Tower of Terror, etc.)
As long as they keep adding quality self-contained attraction modules, like Universal does, it will be fine.
They're really behind schedule though.
Number of attractions in each Disney park world wide that feature Pixar characters:
Magic Kingdom, FL: 2 (Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin, Monster's Inc Laugh Floor)
Epcot, FL: 2 (The Seas with Nemo and Friends, Turtle Talk with Crush)
Hollywood Studios, FL: 1 (Toy Story Midway Mania)
Animal Kingdom, FL: 2 (It's Tough To be a Bug, Finding Nemo the Musical)
Disneyland, CA: 2 (Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters,
Disney California Adventure, CA: 11 (Toy Story Mania, Turtle Talk with Crush, Monster's Inc Mike and Sully to the Rescue, Radiator Springs Racers, Luigi's Flying Tires, Tow Mater's Junkyard Jamboree, Flik's Flyers, Francis' Ladybug Boogie, Heimlich's Chew Chew Train, It's Tough to be a Bug, Tuck and Roll's Drive 'em Buggies)
Disneyland Paris: 1 (Buzz Lightyear Laser Blast)
Disneyland Studios Paris: 5(RC Racer, Crush's Coaster, Cars Race Rally, Slinky Dog ZigZag Spin, Toy Soldiers Parachute Drop)
Tokyo Disneyland: 2(Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters, Monster's Inc Ride and Go Seek)
Tokyo Disney Sea: 2 (Turtle Talk, Toy Story Mania)
Hong Kong Disneyland: 3 (Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters, RC Racer, Slinky Dog Spin, Toy Soldier Parachute Drop

So in short, the park with the land called Pixar Place is tied for the least amount of Pixar based attractions.
 

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