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[Gusey]

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Looking at this map from the article, there is one pink building in the Toy Story plot, labelled Possible Theme Park Experience. Do we think that one building could be something like Disney Quest, or a Disney Escape Room experience? Something you could find in a theme park but not an actual third gate?

 

[Andrew25]

Looking at this map from the article, there is one pink building in the Toy Story plot, labelled Possible Theme Park Experience. Do we think that one building could be something like Disney Quest, or a Disney Escape Room experience? Something you could find in a theme park but not an actual third gate?
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I wouldn't read into this. It's a very vague map showing what's possible, but not expected. My guess is that Disney included this give them options to do anything here without having to ask for additional permission.

 

[TP2000]

I wouldn't read into this. It's a very vague map showing what's possible, but not expected. My guess is that Disney included this give them options to do anything here without having to ask for additional permission.

Exactly.

That, plus this project is "multi-decade". Which takes us into the 2040's and beyond.

Trying to decipher from that purposely vague map what they might begin to build in 2036 is like looking at this image of Westcot that Disney released 35 years ago and trying to figure out what type of ride system would be used for the Egyptian Pyramids E Ticket and if they might get The Beach Boys to hold the first concert in the huge new amphitheater.

 

[Nland316]

Some interesting insider rumors on the WDW side of the site..

FYI Frozen Journey is coming to disneyland. Henry

 

[Disney Analyst]

Some interesting insider rumors on the WDW side of the site..

Better be the Tokyo version.

 

[ParkPeeker]

Better be the Tokyo version.

well they did say Journey and NOT ever after!!

 

[Disney Analyst]

well they did say Journey and NOT ever after!!

I can’t keep track of which one is which

 

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

Some interesting insider rumors on the WDW side of the site..

Well at least we know what could be coming to the Stitch lot, or at least part of it if they go for the Fantasy Springs route.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Some interesting insider rumors on the WDW side of the site..

I'll believe it the day it opens and it's an exact clone of Tokyo's.

Until then, I imagine we're getting the WDW or HK version.

 

[MistaDee]

I do love the idea of having a fantasy springs presence in Disneyland's northern portion as the "Good" pole balanced with some new take on a Villain's Land in DCA's southern portion as the "Evil" pole. I think it also sorta fits the two parks identities and alcohol policies haha

Now whether that would be as part of a "DCinematic-A" rebrand, a standalone gate experience or somehow bent into the California theme

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

Today's Micechat report is claiming that the location for Avatar (and Coco) is in flux, and that Avatar may end up going in DL Forward and not DCA.

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[DisneyAJ]

Today's Micechat report is claiming that the location for Avatar (and Coco) is in flux, and that Avatar may end up going in DL Forward and not DCA.

Disneyland Update: Project Switch-A-Roo, Construction & Price Hikes Too!

The Disneyland Resort is in for some big shifts as the upcoming Tiana’s Bayou Adventure nears completion, and rumors of future changes loom. As if that weren’t enough, price increases are expected any day now.

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Isn’t DLF still California Adventure? Or are they back to thinking it’s going to be a third gate?

 

[Disney Irish]

Isn’t DLF still California Adventure? Or are they back to thinking it’s going to be a third gate?

DLForward isn't anything specific yet. The thought, based on how Disney described they would use the land, was to be expansions for both DL proper and DCA. However some have thought, including now MC apparently, that Disney may use it instead for a 3rd gate. However I'm still of the opinion that isn't Disney's plan but rather just wishcasting by some.

 

[DisneyAJ]

I do love the idea of having a fantasy springs presence in Disneyland's northern portion as the "Good" pole balanced with some new take on a Villain's Land in DCA's southern portion as the "Evil" pole. I think it also sorta fits the two parks identities and alcohol policies haha

Now whether that would be as part of a "DCinematic-A" rebrand, a standalone gate experience or somehow bent into the California theme

This is honestly a super cool idea that could create an awesome third gate. Currently sitting here brainstorming a new park now

DLForward isn't anything specific yet. The thought, based on how Disney described they would use the land, was to be expansions for both DL proper and DCA. However some have thought, including now MC apparently, that Disney may use it instead for a 3rd gate. However I'm still of the opinion that isn't Disney's plan but rather just wishcasting by some.

That’s what I thought. I’ve always been very pro third gate, just not in those plots but the TS lot. It had just been a moment since I saw anything suggesting that those plots weren’t anything other than expansions so I was a bit surprised.

 

[Disney Irish]

This is honestly a super cool idea that could create an awesome third gate. Currently sitting here brainstorming a new park now

That’s what I thought. I’ve always been very pro third gate, just not in those plots but the TS lot. It had just been a moment since I saw anything suggesting that those plots weren’t anything other than expansions so I was a bit surprised.

Unless something changed internally at Disney since DLForward got approved, they've said no to the 3rd gate and are using DLForward land next to the Parks as expansion and TSL for a new hotel/retail district.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

 

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

Micechat was way off the mark for this update. If Coco would cause bottlenecks around the pier, do a virtual queue at launch. The Coco going into HL land makes no sense if it would just take over Hollywood and Dine. The whole point of procuring the EGW was to use the bus hub for DCA expansion. You can bet Disney wants to use it for DCA expansion. To not use it in any meaningful way would be beyond baffling.

I am still sticking by Avatar goes into HL. James Cameron would probably have objections to the PPH looming over the land anyways. Plus you know Disney would love to have it open by part 4 in 2029.

 

[truecoat]

You can't have DLF be a third gate unless you're building out almost all the allotted land, so Avatar will be in DCA on one side of Disneyland Drive or the other..

 

[Disney Irish]

You can't have DLF be a third gate unless you're building out almost all the allotted land, so Avatar will be in DCA on one side of Disneyland Drive or the other..

Agreed. I think people are just wishcasting here, but at the same time they also forget that DLForward is suppose to be to allow for the next 40 years of future projects. You can't build a 3rd gate unless you have already planned lands build out, leaving yourself nothing or very little for expansion. So if they were to build out a 3rd gate, basically you got lost any future for DLR beyond that 3rd gate. Meaning the only way to get something new would be to tear something beloved down.

So which is it, you want a 3rd gate and don't mind losing ROA/TSI/Pirates/HM/etc for future projects, or you leave DLForward as expansion for the existing Parks.

 

[mickEblu]

Agreed. I think people are just wishcasting here, but at the same time they also forget that DLForward is suppose to be to allow for the next 40 years of future projects. You can't build a 3rd gate unless you have already planned lands build out, leaving yourself nothing or very little for expansion. So if they were to build out a 3rd gate, basically you got lost any future for DLR beyond that 3rd gate. Meaning the only way to get something new would be to tear something beloved down.

So which is it, you want a 3rd gate and don't mind losing ROA/TSI/Pirates/HM/etc for future projects, or you leave DLForward as expansion for the existing Parks.

Most people seem to think a third gate won’t/ can’t happen at DLR so what difference does it make? The usable land will eventually all be used up whether it’s for rides or not. I guess it might just postpone having to part with beloved classics in our lifetime. But at a certain point I have to believe classics like POTC or HM will be viewed as untouchable landmarks. The longer they stand the test of time the more chance that they survive for as long as Disneyland does. I’d like to meet the team that decides to retheme 100 year old POTC or HM.

 

[Disney Irish]

Most people seem to think a third gate won’t happen at DLR so what difference does it make? The usable land will eventually all be used up whether it’s for rides or not. I guess it might just postpone having to part with beloved classics in our lifetime. But at a certain point I have to believe classics like POTC or HM will be viewed as untouchable landmarks. The longer they stand the test of time the more chance that they survive for as long as Disneyland does. I’d like to meet the team that decides to retheme 100 year old POTC or HM.

You're right all the usable land will be used up eventually, the question is whether someone wants that now or in 40-50 years. 3rd gate means it gets used up quicker versus expansion which is used up longer term.

Also if we've learned nothing from the changes coming to MK, its that Disney has no issue touching something beloved. So a 3rd gate puts HM or POTC on the potential chopping block sooner in our lifetime rather than far off in the future when we are likely gone.