Rumor Disneyland Tomorrowland Future - What to do?

[mharrington]

I'm not sure why you think they care about having Buzz in every park at this point. Especially since you already acknowledged they rethemed one of them to Ant-Man.

DCA already has a better version of Buzz in Midway Mania. And by all accounts will be getting a second shooter in Spider-Man for Marvel Phase 1 (which will hopefully be even more advanced). So really I don't think DLR needs 3 shooter attractions. So Buzz's time to shine has faded, in my opinion. Its time to move on...

I disagree, particularly since I believe Paris is getting a Spider-Man ride, too, similar to the CA version. In any case, I would think that the track and the Omnimover system be retained for this overhaul. Also, Buzz is interactive online, I believe.

If they get rid of Buzz at Disneyland, they should get rid of it at one of the other parks, too, I think, preferably either Tokyo or Paris.

 

[Disney Irish]

I disagree, particularly since I believe Paris is getting a Spider-Man ride, too, similar to the CA version. In any case, I would think that the track and the Omnimover system be retained for this overhaul. Also, Buzz is interactive online, I believe.

If they get rid of Buzz at Disneyland, they should get rid of it at one of the other parks, too, I think, preferably either Tokyo or Paris.

Well we'll see what happens when they finally do announce the TL redo project. But in my opinion Buzz's time is coming to an end sooner than you think.

As for getting rid of it in the rest of the parks, I'm not sure why you have such an extreme opinion. Its not an either all or nothing prospect. I can understand if Buzz is your favorite attraction why you would want to keep it around. But just because it may or may not be leaving DL doesn't mean it doesn't belong in other parks. While I have no issues with cloning of attractions it used to be that Disney Parks fans wanted unique attractions and no clones in their parks. Anyways, if that is the only way to have a complete redo of DL TL is the removal all Buzz Lightyear attractions from all Disney Parks, so be it get rid of them all.

As for Paris, the difference there is, and correct me if I'm wrong. But they ONLY have Buzz and no other shooters in the entire resort. So with Spider-Man they'd be getting a second one. If Buzz sticks around that would be 3 shooters for DLR, and again correct me if I'm wrong, but no other resort has 3 shooters. So in order to maintain balanced Buzz in my option should be removed just for that reason alone.

 

[mharrington]

As for Paris, the difference there is, and correct me if I'm wrong. But they ONLY have Buzz and no other shooters in the entire resort. So with Spider-Man they'd be getting a second one. If Buzz sticks around that would be 3 shooters for DLR, and again correct me if I'm wrong, but no other resort has 3 shooters. So in order to maintain balanced Buzz in my option should be removed just for that reason alone.

Well, Florida and Tokyo have Buzz and the Toy Story midway ride. And it should be noted, also, that Spider-Man is coming to the CA Adventure, not to Disneyland.

Besides, you're right, I do kind of like Buzz, and so do other people. I don't believe Spider-Man is an Omnimover ride, is it? They need to keep that around for Disneyland.

 

[Disney Irish]

Well, Florida and Tokyo have Buzz and the Toy Story midway ride. And it should be noted, also, that Spider-Man is coming to the CA Adventure, not to Disneyland.

Yes I'm aware of where Spider-Man is going. But you just proved my point, no other Disney Resort in the world has 3 shooters, at max two no matter what parks they are in. So when Spider-Man comes to DCA does Disneyland Resort as a whole need 3 shooters, I don't think so. Keep those over in DCA, along with Pixar in my opinion.

I don't believe Spider-Man is an Omnimover ride, is it? They need to keep that around for Disneyland.

Do they? I mean they have a better Omnimover attraction sitting over in New Orleans Square. So it not like all the Omnimover attractions would be going away completely. Also they can create a new Omnimover attraction that is not a shooter in the new TL.

 

[mharrington]

Do they? I mean they have a better Omnimover attraction sitting over in New Orleans Square. So it not like all the Omnimover attractions would be going away completely. Also they can create a new Omnimover attraction that is not a shooter in the new TL.

Have you forgotten that for a long time, they had two Omnimover attractions at Disneyland (Inner Space as well as the Haunted Mansion)? What about the myriad Omnimover rides that Epcot once had? Except for Universe of Energy, Wonders of Life and The Land, every pavilion in Future World had an Omnimover attraction. WDW's Magic Kingdom actually has three Omnimover attractions.

So I see no reason why Disneyland shouldn't have more than one Omnimover ride.

 

[SuddenStorm]

I'm not sure why you think they care about having Buzz in every park at this point. Especially since you already acknowledged they rethemed one of them to Ant-Man.

DCA already has a better version of Buzz in Midway Mania. And by all accounts will be getting a second shooter in Spider-Man for Marvel Phase 1 (which will hopefully be even more advanced). So really I don't think DLR needs 3 shooter attractions. So Buzz's time to shine has faded, in my opinion. Its time to move on...

Let the past die. Kill it if you have too

 

[Disney Irish]

Have you forgotten that for a long time, they had two Omnimover attractions at Disneyland (Inner Space as well as the Haunted Mansion)? What about the myriad Omnimover rides that Epcot once had? Except for Universe of Energy, Wonders of Life and The Land, every pavilion in Future World had an Omnimover attraction. WDW's Magic Kingdom actually has three Omnimover attractions.

So I see no reason why Disneyland shouldn't have more than one Omnimover ride.

Yes I'm aware that DL had 2 Omnimovers attractions prior to Buzz. I'm also aware that DL had only a single Omnimover attraction from 1987 to 2005.

I'm not opposed to Omnimover attractions. What I'm opposed to is just keeping Buzz around just because its an Omnimover.

So get rid of Buzz and create a new Omnimover attraction in the same vein as ATIS or Horizons, as @Phrubruh wants Horizons 2.0.

 

[Phroobar]

Horizons is the only ride that fits Tomorrowland's dedication. It's also a people eater.

A journey into imagination type ride would be great too.

 

[Phroobar]

Tomorrowland should be classic retro Epcot Future World.

 

[Californian Elitist]

We it’s a matter of semantics and perspective.

Anyways it’s day has come and it’s time to retire it.

It’s a fact. Autopia is an original attraction, along with a few other rides at the park.

It’s time to update it.

 

[SuddenStorm]

We it’s a matter of semantics and perspective.

Anyways it’s day has come and it’s time to retire it.

It'd be foolish to expect Disney to operate an attraction for 60 years without updates and changes... and it's also foolish to say it's no longer an original since it's been updated. It's not semantics or perspective... by every definition, an attraction that was there on opening day and is still operating in some form today counts as an original- even the Fantasyland stuff that was rebuilt in '83.

Why do you think it's day has come? It's still popular among children... and I imagine a lot of parents love being able to ride and let their kid drive in a safe environment. Should it be revised? Definitely... I'd be in favor or decreasing the track length and integrating more overpasses and tunnels to have a longer distance in less space. It also needs new vehicles and fresh decorations along the track. But it should definitely not go away.

And while I'm on my soapbox... neither should the subs. That's such a unique attraction, I say rethink and revise it... update it, but don't remove it.

 

[Disney Irish]

It’s a fact. Autopia is an original attraction, along with a few other rides at the park.

It’s time to update it.

It'd be foolish to expect Disney to operate an attraction for 60 years without updates and changes... and it's also foolish to say it's no longer an original since it's been updated. It's not semantics or perspective... by every definition, an attraction that was there on opening day and is still operating in some form today counts as an original- even the Fantasyland stuff that was rebuilt in '83.

Why do you think it's day has come? It's still popular among children... and I imagine a lot of parents love being able to ride and let their kid drive in a safe environment. Should it be revised? Definitely... I'd be in favor or decreasing the track length and integrating more overpasses and tunnels to have a longer distance in less space. It also needs new vehicles and fresh decorations along the track. But it should definitely not go away.

And while I'm on my soapbox... neither should the subs. That's such a unique attraction, I say rethink and revise it... update it, but don't remove it.

Well to me, and you both can say I’m wrong all you want I don’t care, the moment it merged with the FL track it lost its original status.

Anyways it’s time for it and the Subs to retire. While I get that it and Subs are both beloved they both take up too much valuable real estate. Keep the lagoon but get rid of both Autopia and Subs.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Horizons is the only ride that fits Tomorrowland's dedication. It's also a people eater.

A journey into imagination type ride would be great too.

That's about as likely as waking into a Denny's and finding a bunch of physically fit people.

 

[socalifornian]

It'd be foolish to expect Disney to operate an attraction for 60 years without updates and changes... and it's also foolish to say it's no longer an original since it's been updated. It's not semantics or perspective... by every definition, an attraction that was there on opening day and is still operating in some form today counts as an original- even the Fantasyland stuff that was rebuilt in '83.

Why do you think it's day has come? It's still popular among children... and I imagine a lot of parents love being able to ride and let their kid drive in a safe environment. Should it be revised? Definitely... I'd be in favor or decreasing the track length and integrating more overpasses and tunnels to have a longer distance in less space. It also needs new vehicles and fresh decorations along the track. But it should definitely not go away.

And while I'm on my soapbox... neither should the subs. That's such a unique attraction, I say rethink and revise it... update it, but don't remove it.

An electric or hydrogen fleet for sure. Hovering through electromagnets or the like would be a wishlist feature for me

 

[Californian Elitist]

Well to me, and you both can say I’m wrong all you want I don’t care, the moment it merged with the FL track it lost its original status.

Anyways it’s time for it and the Subs to retire. While I get that it and Subs are both beloved they both take up too much valuable real estate. Keep the lagoon but get rid of both Autopia and Subs.

It doesn’t matter if you care or not because this is absurdity vs. facts and you can’t change facts. This isn’t perspective. The “perspective” of the earth being flat doesn’t make it flat because it’s factually incorrect.

What you say makes no sense. According to your logic, Disneyland can’t be considered the original Disney park because it’s not in the exact same condition as it was the day it opened nearly 64 years ago. None of the rides are originals then. America’s Birthday is not July 4, 1776 because it’s not a country full of thieving Europeans and 13 colonies with unchartered land anymore. No sense.

It’s time for Autopia to be updated and for the Subs to be reimagined.

 

[Practical Pig]

Autopia, in it's evolved form, is clearly rooted in it's original form in direct continuity. It's nonsense to suggest otherwise.

However, I'm not necessarily opposed to it (or the subs) being replaced, depending on the plan.

 

[Disney Irish]

It doesn’t matter if you care or not because this is absurdity vs. facts and you can’t change facts. This isn’t perspective. The “perspective” of the earth being flat doesn’t make it flat because it’s factually incorrect.

What you say makes no sense. According to your logic, Disneyland can’t be considered the original Disney park because it’s not in the exact same condition as it was the day it opened nearly 64 years ago. None of the rides are originals then. America’s Birthday is not July 4, 1776 because it’s not a country full of thieving Europeans and 13 colonies with unchartered land anymore. No sense.

It’s time for Autopia to be updated and for the Subs to be reimagined.

Ok fine I concede. I'm wrong. Thanks for posting.

 

[Disney Irish]

With all that out of the way, my opinion still hasn't changed. Sub and Autopia's time has come to move to Yesterdayland. No offense to Tony but he shouldn't have salvaged Subs.

 

[mharrington]

It’s time for Autopia to be updated and for the Subs to be reimagined.

Unfortunately, for better or worse, I think the subs and Autopia may finally be on the way out, since the space is likely to be taken up by a Fantasyland expansion.

August can't come fast enough for me to hopefully know more details, since they're probably going to want to reveal something after Galaxy's Edge.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Ok fine I concede. I'm wrong. Thanks for posting.

Yes, you’re welcome.