lazyboy97o
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That’s not the only concern...
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Disneyland To Open Sept. 16th?
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Tamandua
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Whatever these other concerns are, I guess they're a lot more important than people's livelihoods, the economy, and society's mental health.
Curious Constance
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What’s the statistical likelihood of the other concerns happening?
George Lucas on a Bench
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The likelihood of bankruptcy, unemployment, addiction and suicide...all pretty likely. It's a shame about those old folks killed by the Chinese virus, but it's the ones left living, AKA the vast majority of the population, who are screwed.
Curious Constance
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I know that there have been some adverse health effects from people that have had Covid. What I’m curious about is how likely they are to happen.
lazyboy97o
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Depends on the concern. Myocarditis is showing up in rates significantly higher than other common causes, including in those otherwise without symptoms and in good health (see college football and professional baseball players). What almost assuredly will not happen is the resumption of economic activity during significant increases in cases because people will react like they already have, repeatedly.
Darkbeer1
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Newsom: California ‘actively’ working with Disneyland and other theme parks on reopening plans
California Gov. Gavin Newsom commented on his discussions with Disney and other larger amusement park operators during a press conference on Friday, Aug. 28.
www.ocregister.com
TP2000
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In my feeble talk-radio fueled defense, I had KNSD TV on in the kitchen while the press conference was covered. I listened to the governor's words quite clearly while I trimmed taragon, and I didn't hear anything about individual counties being allowed to deviate one way or another. But then, our governor has a speaking style like a middle-manager from HR so full of psychobabble and trendy buzzwords, that it's often hard to understand his dynamic conversations about stretch goals in important spaces.
And if a California county can deviate stricter with no repercussions, why can't a county of duly elected local officials deviate more liberally? There's a question for the Supreme Court, isn't it?!
The snarky talk radio angle, such as it was, was that august and finely tuned San Diego Vs. LA rivalry that has only become more viper-tongued here south of Camp Pendleton since the Chargers left town for Inglewood. San Diego County is already Red, while LA County is hopelessly Purple and didn't even know if its barbershops can reopen. (They can't)
San Diego's radio hosts and numerous callers this afternoon were amazed that the largest county in the state was either unaware, or never consulted, on how this new Four-Tier Color-Coded Safer-State system of governance would work. It was a miss in an important communication day that was announced by Governor Newsom over a week ago that he had something important to say this week, and then waited until Friday to say it.
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Disney Irish
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All barbershops can reopening at 25% capacity starting August 31st even in "Purple" counties:In my feeble talk-radio fueled defense, I had KNSD TV on in the living room while the press conference was covered. I listened to the governor's words quite clearly while I trimmed taragon, and I didn't hear anything about individual counties being allowed to deviate one way or another. But then, our governor has a speaking style like a middle-manager from HR so full of psychobabble and trendy buzzwords, that it's often hard to understand his dynamic conversations about stretch goals in important spaces.
And if a California county can deviate stricter with no repercussions, why can't a county of duly elected local officials deviate more liberally? There's a question for the Supreme Court, isn't it?!
The snarky news angle, such as it was, was that august and finely tuned San Diego Vs. LA rivalry that has only become more viper-tongued here south of Camp Pendleton since the Chargers left town for Inglewood. San Diego County is already Red, while LA County is hopelessly Purple and didn't even know if its barbershops can reopen. (They can't.)
The radio hosts and numerous callers late this afternoon were amazed that the largest county in the state was either unaware, or never consulted, on how this new Four-Tier Color-Coded Safer-State system of governance would work. It was a miss in an important communication day that was announced by Governor Newsom over a week ago that he had something important to say this week, and then waited until Friday to say it.
So what LA County tweeted earlier was them saying they were still reviewing what the State's new guidelines mean. I suspect on Monday they'll revise their statement to fall in-line with what the new guidelines state. Otherwise they'll have to explain to all the barbershops why the state says they can reopen but can't in LA County.
More importantly your favorite barbershop in Orange County should be able to reopen on Monday.
TP2000
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But that's not what LA County said on Friday afternoon. And not what is being reported in the media.
L.A. County hair salons, barber shops not allowed to resume indoor services yet despite new state guidelines
Los Angeles County won’t allow hair salons and barbershops to resume indoor operations, despite an announcement from Gov. Gavin Newsom permitting such services across the state again. Indoor …
ktla.com
Luckily for me, I already got my hair cut a few days ago in a La Jolla speakeasy, and I'm going to stay here in San Diego County for an extended time now that it's a Red County already trending towards an Orange County. Disneyland isn't opening anytime soon, so what's the point?
Disney Irish
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But that's not what LA County said on Friday afternoon. And not what is being reported in the media.
L.A. County hair salons, barber shops not allowed to resume indoor services yet despite new state guidelines
Los Angeles County won’t allow hair salons and barbershops to resume indoor operations, despite an announcement from Gov. Gavin Newsom permitting such services across the state again. Indoor …
Luckily for me, I already got my hair cut a few days ago in a La Jolla speakeasy, and I'm going to stay here in San Diego County for an extended time now that it's a Red County already trending towards an Orange County. Disneyland isn't opening anytime soon, so what's the point?
LA County Barbershops, Indoor Shopping Centers To Remain Closed Despite New State Guidelines
Non-essential indoor operations at hair salons, shopping malls, and other businesses in Los Angeles County will not reopen next week, despite the state's new guidelines that allow them to do so.
losangeles.cbslocal.com
"However, L.A. county officials said Friday that they have not had the chance to fully review the state’s new guidelines, and the local health order will not change to allow these businesses to open next week. "
Indicating that once they review the new guidelines they will allow them to reopen. So this is the county health official just taking the time to review the new guidelines before just flat out approving the reopening in their county.
As for Disneyland, we'll see what comes from the talks today. The impression I got from the press conference today, which I saw live, was that this wasn't the first talks they've had about reopening theme parks and just need to finalize the guidelines. I mean I could be wrong, but that is the impression I got. So we could be hearing something real soon, maybe next week or maybe sometime after Labor Day, who knows.
Mac Tonight
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Here's what I have a problem with... I'm looking around at the covid19.ca.gov site's state map based on the Newsom's new Crayola-based Pandemic response, and already see discrepancies.
According to the numbers provided in the chart, "Widespread" would mean 7+ COVID-19 cases per 100k and a Positivity Rate of 8% and higher. But as you can clearly see, both SLO County and Orange County numbers are below that.
According to the numbers provided in the chart, "Widespread" would mean 7+ COVID-19 cases per 100k and a Positivity Rate of 8% and higher. But as you can clearly see, both SLO County and Orange County numbers are below that.
Disney Irish
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Disney Irish
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The way I understand is that a county could only go to "Red" if they had been off the watch list for more than two weeks. Orange County just came off the watch list this past weekend, and was still in the 14-day waiting period. So it automatically went to "Purple" because of that. So it just needs to complete the waiting period time and it'll move to "Red".
TP2000
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BTW @TP2000, this new color system is basically the Phase 3a, 3b, 3c, 3d that you were complaining was happening back in May/June and wasn't clear. Now it clearer and has nice little colors to go along with it....
I had to consult an old Mr. Boston's Bar Guide to remember how to make a Gin Fizz this evening, and you want me to remember what was Phase 3c back in May?
You over-estimate my intellectual ability. But it's flattering, nevertheless.
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Mac Tonight
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So even if it's numbers fall within the "red" category, it'll stay "purple" for two weeks?
Disney Irish
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Come on you have a memory like a rusty steel trap, of course I'd expect you to remember lol....
Disney Irish
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The waiting period still applies. Any county in the waiting period has to complete the waiting period, it doesn't just bypass the waiting period.
Mac Tonight
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Maybe they should specify that on the map. Otherwise it just seems misleading.