News Disneyland to give Snow White’s Scary Adventures dark ride a major facelift in 2020

TP2000

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I’m reserving judgement on this until it’s done cause what we’ve seen so far is nowhere near enough to judge on. But I’ll just say it is really depressing to think of the possibility that once again, Tokyo will be left with the superior version of an originally American attraction solely because all of the other versions were changed beyond recognition.

Yes, but.... they run their Anaheim dark rides at such high speed in Tokyo that it's hard to take it all in. I think they do it because it increases capacity, and they can trust Japanese visitors to follow rules and jump immediately out of their cars once they screech to a halt at the unload area. But still, the Tokyo version of Snow White is about 1.5x the speed of the Anaheim version. Same with Tokyo's Pinocchio.
 

BasiltheBatLord

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Yes, but.... they run their Anaheim dark rides at such high speed in Tokyo that it's hard to take it all in. I think they do it because it increases capacity, and they can trust Japanese visitors to follow rules and jump immediately out of their cars once they screech to a halt at the unload area. But still, the Tokyo version of Snow White is about 1.5x the speed of the Anaheim version. Same with Tokyo's Pinocchio.
Never noticed that before. I have noticed however that Tokyo is the only park in the world where you can experience Haunted Mansion without stopping a single time and having to hear the “playful spooks” spiel over and over.
 

TP2000

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Never noticed that before. I have noticed however that Tokyo is the only park in the world where you can experience Haunted Mansion without stopping a single time and having to hear the “playful spooks” spiel over and over.

To be fair to Tokyo, it has varied. I noticed it first on a trip during the 50th in '05, but it was summer and the park was packed. On recent trips I've noticed it also, but to lesser extents.

Now that I type this, it appears they have the ability to speed up or slow down the speed of the Fantasyland dark rides in Tokyo based on crowd conditions and length of lines.

Here's a pretty good example of a speedy ride-thru of Snow White in Tokyo. Get in, sit down, wave and smile, watch your step and exit to your left!

 

waltography

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To be fair to Tokyo, it has varied. I noticed it first on a trip during the 50th in '05, but it was summer and the park was packed. On recent trips I've noticed it also, but to lesser extents.

Now that I type this, it appears they have the ability to speed up or slow down the speed of the Fantasyland dark rides in Tokyo based on crowd conditions and length of lines.

Here's a pretty good example of a speedy ride-thru of Snow White in Tokyo. Get in, sit down, wave and smile, watch your step and exit to your left!


I feel... panicked? as I watch that POV. It's almost laughably fast with how it zipped past the Queen transformation.

I likely won't miss the "what the?" boulder ending though, depending on how the changes ultimately pan out; happy to leave that in Tokyo's hands.
 

The Empress Lilly

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To be fair to Tokyo, it has varied. I noticed it first on a trip during the 50th in '05, but it was summer and the park was packed. On recent trips I've noticed it also, but to lesser extents.

Now that I type this, it appears they have the ability to speed up or slow down the speed of the Fantasyland dark rides in Tokyo based on crowd conditions and length of lines.

Here's a pretty good example of a speedy ride-thru of Snow White in Tokyo. Get in, sit down, wave and smile, watch your step and exit to your left!


Wish that we'd drive this fast on the MK Seven Dwarf Mine Train!
 

Sharon&Susan

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Since nobody else has done it yet, here's a comparison of the Dwarves' mine before and after:
Miningworkbefore.jpg
Miningworkafter.jpg

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Dop after.jpg

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DOC AFTER.jpg
 

PiratesMansion

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I’m reserving judgement on this until it’s done cause what we’ve seen so far is nowhere near enough to judge on. But I’ll just say it is really depressing to think of the possibility that once again, Tokyo will be left with the superior version of an originally American attraction solely because all of the other versions were changed beyond recognition.
Don't forget that Paris still has a version of Snow White that is identical to Disneyland's 1983 ride other than an added ending scene.

I haven't followed this too closely, but from what I've seen so far the only thing that is unequivocably awful is the ride's new name.
 

mickEblu

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Don't forget that Paris still has a version of Snow White that is identical to Disneyland's 1983 ride other than an added ending scene.

I haven't followed this too closely, but from what I've seen so far the only thing that is unequivocably awful is the ride's new name.


I was about to agree and then I remembered what the did to the dungeon in the queue. If the facade isn’t unequivocally awful it’s the next tier under.
 

mickEblu

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Really makes you realize how barren the mine scene was. I’ll go ahead and say it - I would be flat bored during the mine and dungeon scenes. They felt long and boring. My guess is that imagineers for the 83 remodel didn’t think there was enough room to create a scary atmosphere convincingly with dwarves goofing around etc. Although the particular scenes that we ve been shown look to be enhanced, I wonder what the effect on the overall ride experience will be? Is there enough room to do it all and have it feel as cohesive an experience as Scary Adventures? In Pinocchio’s Daring Journey you quickly Jump from happy scenes to dark scenes. I don’t enjoy Gepettos workshop any less because I just saw Monstro a few seconds before. However, it is in my opinion the least satisfying dark ride in Fantasyland for that very reason. It’s not focused on one emotion like the other dark rides are more or less.

So i feel that most scenes will be upgraded visually with nice eye candy but it will be at the cost of the experience as a whole. Which to be honest was just ok for me before anyway. I just don’t like seeing things get downgraded (and don’t like the park losing variety). Which is why I always go back to the exterior and queue being the biggest offenders for me. And the wretched name of course
 
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BasiltheBatLord

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The Empress Lilly

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There's something to be said for both the three top and the three bottom pictures. Scary and claustrophobic; and pretty and whimsical/colourful.

Two completely different rides.

Rather wish they had built the new one in some corner of DCA. In Princess Land or some such, or ssimply unceremoniously plonked down next to Mermaid, its sister ride.
 

mharrington

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Sorry to see the Witch on the boat go. @swge when you said the rock scene was staying did you mean the cliff/ Witch death scene? It it just being preserved and moved somewhere else?
Where did you read about the Witch in the boat being removed? Not that I'm expecting that to remain, but the only things we really know about are the scenes between the cottage and the mine (and the closing scenes). The Witch in the boat doesn't come until later.

It also makes me wonder how the castle and the scary forest will fit into the equation.

I'm also wondering if the Dwarfs will actually appear in the final goodbye scene. I hope they at least include Dopey. Did they scrap the waving Dopey figure from the 1994-2012 version of the WDW ride? If not, they could reuse it here.
 

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