Disneyland ticket options suck!

[Wilt Dasney]

I understand that many people have never heard of Lake Buena Vista, but Disney should still advertise WDW as being in Lake Buena Vista. Many people believe Disneyland is in Los Angeles, but Disney doesn't advertise it as such.

I think it's apples to oranges. Disney can advertise DL as being in Anaheim because it's a real city that existed before Disney, has two major professional league sports teams, and just generally is an actual place with its own identity, even though it's also part of the greater Los Angeles sprawl.

Lake Buena Vista isn't even a small town, technically speaking. It's a census-defined area owned entirely by Disney. The only permanent residents are Disney employees who vote in company-held elections to put Disney employees on the city council who will set tax rates and zoning requirements according to Disney's preferences. It literally only exists because Florida allowed Disney to have total control over the area to lure them into the state, and setting up a company town was the best way to make that happen. Why advertise your parks as being in a place like that, even if it's the technical mailing address? The parks are in metropolitan Orlando, and that's much easier for visitors to make sense of.

Not trying to prolong an argument by any means, but I just think the two situations are very different.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I think it's apples to oranges. Disney can advertise DL as being in Anaheim because it's a real city that existed before Disney, has two major professional league sports teams, and just generally is an actual place with its own identity, even though it's also part of the greater Los Angeles sprawl.

Lake Buena Vista isn't even a small town, technically speaking. It's a census-defined area owned entirely by Disney. The only permanent residents are Disney employees who vote in company-held elections to put Disney employees on the city council who will set tax rates and zoning requirements according to Disney's preferences. It literally only exists because Florida allowed Disney to have total control over the area to lure them into the state, and setting up a company town was the best way to make that happen. Why advertise your parks as being in a place like that, even if it's the technical mailing address? The parks are in metropolitan Orlando, and that's much easier for visitors to make sense of.

Not trying to prolong an argument by any means, but I just think the two situations are very different.

Okay.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Okay.

As usual, I should have read further before chiming in. It looks like the topic has been "done." At any rate, now you have a lot more information about Disney/Orlando/central Florida than any normal person would ever need.

 

[Californian Elitist]

As usual, I should have read further before chiming in. It looks like the topic has been "done." At any rate, now you have a lot more information about Disney/Orlando/central Florida than any normal person would ever need.

LOL, I sure do! Now I'll REALLY be prepared when I finally go!

 

[captainkidd]

Hell, let's confuse Raven even more - If Lake Buena Vista didn't exist, Disney World would be located in Kissimmee instead of Orlando.

 

[lego606]

I guess it's kinda like NYC? People say they're from Brooklyn or Queens or Manhattan or etc. but they're really from NYC.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Hell, let's confuse Raven even more - If Lake Buena Vista didn't exist, Disney World would be located in Kissimmee instead of Orlando.

Thanks a lot! LOL.

 

[TP2000]

Is Long Beach the same as John Wayne?

No, John Wayne Airport is also known as "Orange County" and is technically located in the city of Santa Ana, which gives it its airport code of SNA. It's the hometown airport for the 3.5 Million people that live in Orange County, with very good nonstop service up and down the West Coast or to western Canada and Mexico, and fairly good service to the Midwest or East Coast.

John Wayne Airport is even closer to Disneyland than Long Beach Airport is, about 20 minutes from baggage claim to Disneyland. But it's often more expensive to fly into John Wayne due to the limit on late night flights and the super-convenience to the business centers of Orange County. John Wayne is also a fabulous airport, and much larger than Long Beach Airport. But it's clean and friendly and hip, and would seem like any new airport in any affluent smallish city.

John Wayne Airport - Orange County, California

There are five major airports in the Los Angeles metro area. John Wayne is the first choice if your destination is Disneyland; it's the easiest, closest, and offers the most flights on the most airlines. Long Beach is a close second, especially if you live in a JetBlue city, and is slightly further away from Disneyland than John Wayne.

There's also Ontario International Airport out in Ontario, which is similarly sized to John Wayne but an extra 20 minute drive without traffic. There's Bob Hope Airport in Burbank, but it mainly offers service up and down the West Coast and is hard to get to from the East without a changeover in Chicago or Denver. And finally there is.... LAX. One of the biggest and ugliest and most difficult airports in the world. Locals hate it, tourists wish they could go home, and if there's anything you can do to avoid using LAX your vacation will be that much better.

Here's a basic map with the five major SoCal airports noted with the mileage scale, plus some local tourist destinations starred. And the Optometric Center of Los Angeles thrown in for good measure. (In case you want an eye exam on your trip.)

 

[captainkidd]

I live about 30 miles south of Boston, but whenever people in Disney ask me where we're visiting from I always say Boston. Just makes me sound cooler.

 

[flynnibus]

Hell, let's confuse Raven even more - If Lake Buena Vista didn't exist, Disney World would be located in Kissimmee instead of Orlando.

nah.. Kissimmee is an actual incorporated town with true borders. Most of WDW property isn't even in the same county as Kissimmee (WDW is almost entirely in Orange county.. with only a little bit of it's southern areas in Osceloa County).

 

[captainkidd]

nah.. Kissimmee is an actual incorporated town with true borders. Most of WDW property isn't even in the same county as Kissimmee (WDW is almost entirely in Orange county.. with only a little bit of it's southern areas in Osceloa County).

Isn't the property closer to Kissimmee than Orlando?

 

[lazyboy97o]

The thing is, I don't do that. I'm very specific when it comes to things like that. If I'm in Inglewood or Lancaster or any other city within LA County, I'm not going to tell someone I'm in LA. I'm going to tell them I'm specifically in Inglewood or Lancaster. If they don't where these cities are, all I have to do is explain. I tell people I'm from Los Angeles, CA. If I were from Frisco or Burbank or Compton or wherever else, I'd tell them that. That's just me, I'm not broad when it comes to location. I'm very specific, even if I'm speaking who is not aware of the area.

And what then of Bay Lake?

 

[Californian Elitist]

And what then of Bay Lake?

Totally forgot you responded to me, lazy.

Where in Florida is Bay Lake?

 

[RandomPrincess]

Many "Washington DC" Landmarks are actually in Maryland or Virginia (DC is tiny). It's easier to stay the Pentagon and Arlington Cemetery etc are in DC then where they are in Virginia. Also the Washington Redskins practice in VA and play in MD.

 

[Master Yoda]

Totally forgot you responded to me, lazy.

Where in Florida is Bay Lake?

It is located behind the Contemporary, WL and FW campground.

 

[Californian Elitist]

It is located behind the Contemporary, WL and FW campground.

Okay, so since it's Disney property, what do you guys consider it? Orlando, I'm guessing? Lake Buena Vista or something else?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Totally forgot you responded to me, lazy.

Where in Florida is Bay Lake?

It is located behind the Contemporary, WL and FW campground.

I'm not talking about the actual lake, I mean the City of Bay Lake that has most of Walt Disney World, including all four theme parks, inside its borders.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I'm not talking about the actual lake, I mean the City of Bay Lake that has most of Walt Disney World, including all four theme parks, inside its borders.

So you're saying WDW can be considered to be in Lake Buena Vista or Bay Lake?

Where does WDW reside more in, Lake Buena Vista or Bay Lake?

 

[flynnibus]

Where does WDW reside more in, Lake Buena Vista or Bay Lake?

It's more like... LBV and Bay Lake both exist 'in' WDW. The disney property, and established RCID emcompass the area that includes both those 'towns'.

 

[Master Yoda]

Okay, so since it's Disney property, what do you guys consider it? Orlando, I'm guessing? Lake Buena Vista or something else?

I don't because I know the way things are legally set up. I consider them to be a part of the City of Bay Lake or the Reedy Creek Improvement district which are the legal descriptions of WDW property.

The thing you have to realize is perception becomes reality. If you say WDW is in Lake Buena Vista you are going to get the puppy tilting the head look as 99.99% of the people in the US have no clue where or what that is. They do however know where Orlando is and since WDW is just outside of it, people just started saying that it is in Orlando in spite of it technically being incorrect. It is just easier to say something that is slightly incorrect to get your point across.